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Teacher had a panic attack with MY DROID in her hand

koralyne,

I admire your desire to finish your education, but unfortunately, you also invalidated the credibility of your opinion about texting at the same time (imo, of course).

Huh? I texted all day long in high school, and I recently graduated from a top university.

Lol, it doesn't have much to do with whether or not someone texts in class...

I wouldn't say it was completly the fault of texting, but texting did play a part (however big or small, I don't know.) in it. You might not have caught this, adrynalyne, but I was using that to reinforce my point of... y'know, not doing it during an important point in the class, yeah? I do not condone texting during a lecture. But if the class is going nowhere, like, say the teacher left the room to go to the bathroom, or you're finished with the assignments for the day and just waiting for the class to end, these, I would deem, an okay time to shoot your friend or family members a text message.
 
There are varying degrees of what is considered important in a class.

If its not allowed, its not allowed. Period. Like I said, walk your happy butt outside if you want to play with your phone. If you don't want to learn, or follow the rules, you shouldn't be allowed to be there.

Like I said, the younger ones in this thread will understand better once they get older and more mature.
 
There are varying degrees of what is considered important in a class.

If its not allowed, its not allowed. Period. Like I said, walk your happy butt outside if you want to play with your phone. If you don't want to learn, or follow the rules, you shouldn't be allowed to be there.

Like I said, the younger ones in this thread will understand better once they get older and more mature.

I did not say I didn't want to learn, in fact, it was my choice to go back and get my hsd. I just like using my time efficiently.
 
There are varying degrees of what is considered important in a class.

If its not allowed, its not allowed. Period. Like I said, walk your happy butt outside if you want to play with your phone. If you don't want to learn, or follow the rules, you shouldn't be allowed to be there.

Like I said, the younger ones in this thread will understand better once they get older and more mature.

God, I hate when people use the "When you're older you'll understand" logical fallacy. It comes off as an absolutely silly cop-out of an argument, as if one doesn't actually have a solid argument to back them up.

Learn things: The You'll-Agree-With-Me-When-You're-Older/More Experienced/Male Logical Fallacy
 
Its only a cop out if its not true. When I was younger, I could relate to these arguments. Now that I am older, I relate to the counter arguments.

Hardly a cop-out.

Kind of amusing that you equate it with being a fallacy, and a male fallacy at that.

By the way, its not a fallacy, and when you are older, you will understand why ;)
 
Its not theft, not in most High Schools

I'll be graduating from college in May, I use my phone in class during large lectures all the time. I also sit in the back as to not disrupt anyone else, but it's 1000% my right since I'm paying plenty of money to listen to poor lecturer's drone on and on, not coming even close to deserving what they earn.. I pay attention in the smaller sections however.

I've never encountered this, but if someone ever grabbed for my phone, regardless if it's a teacher/professor, it's theft, and I'll treat it like such. There's no such thing as lawfully holding someone's item that you stole from them, and doing as you please with it until you feel like giving it back.

My son's High School has a code of conduct he (as well as I) signed, giving up his right to brandish a cell phone anywhere in the school. In practice they don't confiscate unless you are disruptive, but the code of conduct says if its visible or audible, they can take it. I think most schools do this these days. As for the original poster, sounds like the teacher over reacted, but that does not mean the student was in the right either. I agree with a previous poster, its probably a middle school student, now enjoying the flurry of posts he or she generated! Oh well, it's all good.
 
Its only a cop out if its not true. When I was younger, I could relate to these arguments. Now that I am older, I relate to the counter arguments.

Hardly a cop-out.

Kind of amusing that you equate it with being a fallacy, and a male fallacy at that.

By the way, its not a fallacy, and when you are older, you will understand why ;)

Do you even know what a fallacy is, and why it's a fallacy? You're making an error in reasoning by assuming the reason someone feels a certain way is due to their age and their lack of maturity. Pretty much any time you make an assumption while reasoning, you are committing a logical fallacy. Every conclusion you make, including the conclusion above: "The reason you feel a certain way is because of your age" needs to be backed up by sound reasoning. Conclusions can't be pulled out of thin air, and when you use it as a subsidiary conclusion, to provide a premise for your main conclusion, you're automatically invalidating your main conclusion as well.

Hope this helps.
 
This is coming from people who didn't even have the option of texting in class when they were in school. Lol.

Listen, texting in class can be considered a distraction..but nobody's gonna fail if they are sending a text message. Who's to say that they are going to not do well in that class simply because of sending a text message? I text all the time in my college courses and have a 3.6 GPA. You going to say I'm not going to go anywhere cuz I texted in class? Not sure about that one. It's only a distraction because you make it one. If the students not blatantly doing it then I see no problem.

Get real, 'older adults'
 
What you think is not distracting may not hold the same for others.

The only people not getting real in this thread are the kids trying to justify their actions, LOL.
 
True, "you'll understand when you are older" is not a lgoical argument

There are varying degrees of what is considered important in a class.

If its not allowed, its not allowed. Period. Like I said, walk your happy butt outside if you want to play with your phone. If you don't want to learn, or follow the rules, you shouldn't be allowed to be there.

Like I said, the younger ones in this thread will understand better once they get older and more mature.

God, I hate when people use the "When you're older you'll understand" logical fallacy. It comes off as an absolutely silly cop-out of an argument, as if one doesn't actually have a solid argument to back them up.

Learn things: The You'll-Agree-With-Me-When-You're-Older/More Experienced/Male Logical Fallacy

"You'll understand when you are older" is an expression of lost patience, generally used when an older person tries to explain something subtle they learned through experience, over time. Some things that are readily learned through experience are difficult to explain in a brief conversation or forum post. The importance of paying respect to someone who has earned a position of authority over you and controls something you need may well be one of the things that takes years of life as an adult to learn.
 
No one fails/succeeds due to a text......if you actually went through it yourself you might understand, don't think they had cell phones back when Bonanza was in though.
 
Its only a cop out if its not true. When I was younger, I could relate to these arguments. Now that I am older, I relate to the counter arguments.

Hardly a cop-out.

Kind of amusing that you equate it with being a fallacy, and a male fallacy at that.

By the way, its not a fallacy, and when you are older, you will understand why ;)

Do you even know what a fallacy is, and why it's a fallacy? You're making an error in reasoning by assuming the reason someone feels a certain way is due to their age and their lack of maturity. Pretty much any time you make an assumption while reasoning, you are committing a logical fallacy. Every conclusion you make, including the conclusion above: "The reason you feel a certain way is because of your age" needs to be backed up by sound reasoning. Conclusions can't be pulled out of thin air, and when you use it as a subsidiary conclusion, to provide a premise for your main conclusion, you're automatically invalidating your main conclusion as well.

Hope this helps.


Yep, I am fully aware what a fallacy is. I am also aware that its your opinion, and I do not support it. So to each their own ;)

The nice things about opinions, is that you don't have to back them up with sound reasoning. I am not passing it off as fact. Its certainly plausible that someone will not become more mature with age, for instance.

When you get older, you will understand. ;)
 
No one fails/succeeds due to a text......if you actually went through it yourself you might understand, don't think they had cell phones back when Bonanza was in though.



I don't recall anyone saying that you will fail or succeed due to texting (although koralyne hinted at something)...

Don't they teach kids how to read in school? Or do you need a a computer to read it out to you? :) If so, turn your speakers up, you obviously missed a lot of what was discussed here.
 
Ahh.....but saying it is a distraction is implying that it will inhibit you from doing something, thus failing at your goal: learning. But in reality, I can say with confidence that texting is widely used among students and is not a distraction, in the sense of inhibiting someone from learning.
 
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