The demise of a mobile app, Apple cult-style

[onsht1kll]

LOL wut? so the reason companies don't promote other companies is because of insecurity? and that's it? if you're product was super duper awesome you should just start promoting other companies' products because you know that yours is the best one? hahaa...o...k.

You dont think so? Have you listened to any of Steve Jobs' press conferences .. he believes he has the best product since the wheel was invented .. so yeah if he has such a great product why not let an android centered app on your market? .. if your product is so great its not gonna hurt your bottom line .. If that's not the case why doesnt Android ban Apple related things on their market?

do i believe that the reason companies don't promote other companies is because of insecurity? no, i don't believe that. i honestly can't believe you believe that. companies spend millions on marketing and advertising, and its not because of insecurity. its because marketing and advertising is a part of every business model known to man, probably from the stone ages when some caveman was trying to sell a wheel. it's business. you're not going to sell a product unless you advertise.

Look at car commercials for example .. most car commercials mention another car maker in it cuz they believe they are better than the competition. they spend millions in advertising to say they are better than the competition. but they still are essentially advertising for the other company.. some commecials even go as far as saying what features the other car has .. all im saying is that if apple was the best thing out (according to steve) then they shouldnt need to worry about android being in their market .. if they are worried then they would take it out .. is android worried about apple being in their market cuz its advertising for apple? i dont know .. but its in there ...

 

[OneTenderRebel]

"One thing kids like is to be tricked. For instance, I was going to take my little nephew to DisneyLand, but instead I drove him to an old burned-out warehouse. "Oh, no," I said, "DisneyLand burned down." He cried and cried, but I think that deep down he thought it was a pretty good joke. I started to drive over to the real DisneyLand, but it was getting pretty late." DTJH

I just felt that was relevant here.

 

[onsht1kll]

"One thing kids like is to be tricked. For instance, I was going to take my little nephew to DisneyLand, but instead I drove him to an old burned-out warehouse. "Oh, no," I said, "DisneyLand burned down." He cried and cried, but I think that deep down he thought it was a pretty good joke. I started to drive over to the real DisneyLand, but it was getting pretty late." DTJH

I just felt that was relevant here.

lol nice .. i'm sorry onetenderrebel but i think you are promoting czerdrill's side of the arguement .. so i'm gonna have to go ahead and "remove" your post from this market .. yeah ..

 

[kodiak799]

i have to comment on this as well. first, do you have a list of all apps that Apple has rejected from the app store since its inception?

You asked for guidelines and I provided that. You were wrong and now you spin and backpedal, which is par for the course. Besides which, it's irrelevant. If Apple tells you they are going to censor their app store (which, ummm, they do) it doesn't magically make it not censorship.

Every one of your "counterarguments", if you can call it that, was thoroughly proven off point and irrelevant. Pardon me if I don't respond any more. I'm not going to get sucked into this again where, for example, I can't even figure out if you've acknowledged this is censorship or not at this point. If you have, which logical & common sense would dictate you must, then there is nothing really more to debate.

 

[kodiak799]

1) Thanks for non informative link. When I click the "App Store Review Guidelines for iOS apps" link which, I have to assume will lead me to the app store review guidelines for iOS apps, I am taken to a log in page that says I must be a registered developer with Apple to continue. Now, are you a developer with Apple? If you are please provide a cut and paste of the guidelines, and please clearly mark where it says the only reasons they can ban an app is because of malicious or pornographic content.

Try reading the relevant portion at the top of the page, which amounts to a mission statement and the spirit/purpose of their policy which is really the relevant point to this discussion. Here, allow me to paste a copy for you:
"The app approval process is in place to ensure that applications are reliable, perform as expected, and are free of explicit and offensive material. We review every app on the App Store based on a set of technical, content, and design criteria. This review criteria is now available to you in the App Store Review Guidelines. These guidelines are designed to help you prepare your iOS and Mac OS X apps for the approval process"

Again, not that it's really relevant to anything being argued, but you asked. Admitting you were wrong is a sign of maturity. I am done now. Thanks

 

[OneTenderRebel]

You said you were done in the previous post........just sayin.

 

[Dj Carpenter]

No to interrupt or anything but you guys might want to hold it down a little. Moderators will hand out infractions and what not and no one really wants any of those. So, let's all just play nice. This is a user friendly forum. I'm not saying not to express opinions but try not to make it so derogatory. Just a thought

 

[OneTenderRebel]

No to interrupt or anything but you guys might want to hold it down a little. Moderators will hand out infractions and what not and no one really wants any of those. So, let's all just play nice. This is a user friendly forum. I'm not saying not to express opinions but try not to make it so derogatory. Just a thought

true, but I think we have kept it civil, no name calling or anything like that. I don't think anyone has said anything offensive.

 

[Dj Carpenter]

Yeah, but I've tried to keep up with other threads that were eventually closed due to excessive arguing and what not. The Inc HD forums, I don't think there are any left now haha. I'm looking forward to that phone.

 

[kodiak799]

Has it occurred to anyone how unlikely it is that Steve Jobs heard about this app before it was rejected. That one person, and possibly his boss, made the decision. That we've heard one side of the story from the developer that submitted the app, and from the scant info available that developer expected the app not to pass.

Very true. Still doesn't stop us from laughing at another instance of the egomaniacal control freak in action, justified or not. But the policy has Jobs' fingerprints all over it, regardless.

I still find it pretty hard to believe it was rejected for the reasons stated. Yes, incompetence at best. And for this guy, nothing could be better publicity for his magazine. I mean, I'm pretty sure there is an Engadget app, which has Android news, so I don't see why this would be rejected for content. I mean, if Apple was going to censor they'd start first and foremost with Google cloud apps.

Yeah, if true it's censorship. But I don't think it's true. It is funny. Some people are just overly serious fellas, I suppose.

 

[Dj Carpenter]

I meant threads. Does anyone else have the edit button taken away? It did this last night too... I could edit earlier and now I can't...again

 

[OneTenderRebel]

I meant threads. Does anyone else have the edit button taken away? It did this last night too... I could edit earlier and now I can't...again

some sections you can't edit in. I think because this is the news section, you can't edit.

 

[kodiak799]

You said you were done in the previous post........just sayin.

LOL...darn no edit feature.

 

[Dj Carpenter]

Ah, that explains it. I was in a news section last night too. What's the point of that? Just spams the thread when you're wanting to edit instead

 

[OneTenderRebel]

I have no issues with people disliking Apple, but I just think in this case people are making a big deal out of nothing. That is the bottom line to my side of it.