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**The Official 2011 NFL Season Thread**
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I've always though of Suh as a dirty player. He's a defensive beast, but he's always been dirty to me. His recent actions have just cemented that to the media. Not to mention he lied straight to the camera by saying kicking was not his intent, I mean come on, we've seen the slow-mo replay like 5 times in one minute on ESPN. It was an intentional kick and he didn't live up to his actions. Tons of respect lost for him
Even Stafford is dirty, y'all see the play where he got picked and dragged the defenseman down to the ground by the helmet, real dirty and he didn't even get ejected.
Even Stafford is dirty, y'all see the play where he got picked and dragged the defenseman down to the ground by the helmet, real dirty and he didn't even get ejected.
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OneTenderRebel
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Nice win for my Pats! Question for Eagles fans, how long can the Eagles keep Andy Reid as coach? If he was the coach of any other team in the league he would have been fired years ago!
I think he'll be back next season. Yeah all the moves they made were basically a "win now" mode, but I knew it wouldn't happen, way too many new pieces to add to the mix. Not to mention we switched coordinators. Should we be better than 4-7? Hell yeah we should, so many games lost in the 4th for us on top of many other reasons. Reid is a good coach, I don't think Philly would be able to find a better coach to replace him. Give Reid the offseason to prepare with the team and I'm sure we'll be back in contention.
What I want to know is why Reid kept Young in the game. Even during the garbage minutes I would've gone with Kafka, I mean when he took over in game 2 (vs ATL?) he didn't do so bad. Today's game showed how far we are from being an elite team though even though the argument could be made we don't have key pieces; Vick and Maclin. Defense looked like they took huge steps backwards today....
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OneTenderRebel
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chemistry has a lot to do with it this year, I just don't think Reid is a good coach, he has never been able to motivate his players to give that extra bit of effort if takes to win big games. Obviously he has won a couple big games but he just always seems to be scrambling for words to use explaining his team's effort after tough games.
Tebow is still doin' his thing. We're 6-5 now.
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Always tough to talk about a loss, especially after losses like today. I always liked Reid, and he's been on the "hot seat" his whole career in Philly. I want to see him coach this team one more season at least, way too many things happened to this franchise this year, but it will settle by next year. I've given up on this season a few weeks ago, didn't give up on Reid yet.
And Urban, I don't know how he's doing it but he's winning. He's a winner, no matter how ugly it can get, he doesn't give up and just wins. I was one of those who believed he would fail in the NFL, he's proven me wrong and I have no problem admitting it. But I'm sorry I like Raiders so I want them to take the division
Finally the skins pulled one!! Too bad it doesn't look like well be making the playoffs after starting the season off so well
TEBOW TIME!! I really don't see where all the hate is coming from, he wins games, what else do you ask from your players
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TEBOW TIME!! I really don't see where all the hate is coming from, he wins games, what else do you ask from your players
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He doesn't fit the mold of QB that's why. I don't like him cause of his fan base, I call it the Steve Jobs effect lol.
I watched 2 of his games and I don't get how he wins. It's crazy, I see it happening in front of me, but I can't comprehend it. I'm still not a fan, and probably never will be, but he is a winner. He's proving all his critics wrong so now they nitpick at what he doesn't do well. At first they said he couldn't win, he's on a win streak and bringing the Broncos back into the playoff picture, once the "experts" were proven wrong, they go to nitpicking. I don't like him, but much respect to him having the will to win and perform when most needed to get the W. Broncos D has greatly improved as well to keep them in games.
What's the mold of QB? Quarter backs aren't getting paid to throw 40 tds a season, or to throw for 4000 yards a season, or sit in the pocket; they're getting paid to win games. And if that involves using your feet as much as your arm to create opportunities then by all means do your thing.
Do you like Mike Vicky? How about Vince Young (when he was productive, not currently in Philly) if not, then why not?
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As a Denver fan, I wish to God TT was more accurate. He would be another duel threat.
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Well it's generally perceived that QB throws the ball. I agree they're not getting paid to throw x amount of yards or TDs, but Tebow's style/strengths don't exactly fit the identity of a traditional QB. In his defense, neither do Vick or Young. The difference at least between Tebow and Vick is that Vick has proven he can be an accurate passer and pocket player. All 3 of these guys are great running QBs and Tebow has one of the best "field visions" in the game. You are correct that these players are getting paid to win games, but with each position comes standards/expectations and there are many unorthodox players in the league, Tebow and Vick are just 2 of many players.
To answer your question yes I like Vick, even when he was a Falcon, but what I didn't like was he wasn't great a passing the ball. He's greatly improved in that area and if you compare him from now to his seasons in ATL he is more of a "calm" player, doesn't rush things. He has been far from spectacular or even good this season, but yes I do wish the best for him and am happy the NFL gave him a second chance. I don't agree with the new $100mil+ contract he got, but that's a different topic.
As for Young I was never a fan. In the two games he's started he's proven to me at least that he couldn't throw a ball to save his life and unfortunately Reid's offense doesn't play to his strengths. I never wanted Young on the team, in fact I was mad that we signed him as our backup and not giving Kafka the chance. Young was proven to be dysfunctional in Tennessee and had stated he was on the verge of retirement because of his mental/emotional state. I don't know about you, but I don't want someone that weak-minded on my team. However, being able to play under Reid and with all the roster moves inflated his ego, hence the "Dream Team" comment. He was like a fan, thought too far ahead and how much work actually needed to be put into getting the chemistry of the team together.
Now back to Tebow, if he was a more accurate passer then he would certainly be a great QB, right now. However, he makes up for it with his running and smart decisions when it comes to passing. Tebow is a very smart player, and if given the time can become a more accurate passer further expanding his game and making him more of a threat than he already has become. Even if they weren't winning you can see that everyone on their sideline has a positive attitude and that's because of Tebow, a quality of a leader. I'm not a fan of his or the Broncos, but you gotta acknowledge what they've done when all the odds were against them. Tebow changed the organization and the culture, and now look at them, they're winning.
