The Official DF Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release Thread

[just4747]

Ok, not to change topic, and I''m sorry if this is in the wrong section, just wanted to ask:

I know that the Gnex has an unlocked bootloader and will easily be rooted.
I also have seen some other posts about other phones and a question of whether S-Off is on or not.

What is S-Off and does it come into play with the GNex?

S-Off is a feature to turn Security off/unlock the bootloader, but I don't think it applies to this phone.

 

[Trusstopher]

If Verizon is dealing with legal issues, you don't think they would blacklist the phone? That's a bit naive. It's the first thing they would do to cover their ass.

I could seem them refusing to activate, but once the phone is activated, I can't seem them coming back and shutting it off. I know their contracts are heavily in their own favor, but I'd be hard pressed that there was a clause that gave them the ability to terminate someone's service without the user violating anything.

 

[Rayv]

This is what went wrong in my mind.
1 Bad communication on all parts. Verizon most likely just sent a mass email, but they could have forced a reply and made a automatic checklist for each retail store. Apparently not too many stores got this so its probably this best buys communication problems.
2. bad managing and the person who sold the phone messed up as well. He manually put it 999999 really!?!? I worked in retail as a cashier this summer and a few things confilct with this. The cashier had to be trained and working there for a while. You dont start off working in phones and knowing where they are placed in the back rooms. He had to know the sim cards... everything. He was aware of what he was doing. from my experience, when an item was not working in a system or was a high price, a manager would come over and confirm it. The manager probably put the 99999s in.
3. (ill keep it shorter now) BB went through it all wrong. They should not have given complete bs to the customer. they should have said the truth and that jobs were at stake.

I feel bad for the manager on duty and the cashier. One small mistake

People have commented quite a bit on that thread about how the employees may lose their jobs if the phone isn't returned. They are missing a key point. The managers already know this happened. It is not a secret that the employee can hide by having the phone returned. If BB will fire an employee over breaking this specific policy (most companies would), bringing the phone back would not make one bit of difference to that employee's being written up or fired.

 

[prowler85]

I find this comical. A few things to keep in mind;

1) The hourly employees at BB could probably care less. If they get fired they can get an hourly job somewhere else. No big deal.
2) The managers there are probably in a world of pain. This is their career and a bad evaluation will stick with you. I would imagine many people received written reprimands on this issue.

What I would do if I were him: I'd tell the manager that I 'negotiated' with at BB that I'll include their name in any forthcoming video and blog as the person who was responsible for selling it to me. I would tell them that our contract on that receipt did NOT entitle them to call for the item's return so if they would like it back we would have to agree on a new contract (and price). If they don't offer me what I want, I follow through with my promise and start posting Youtube videos of the phone with the manager's name and BB contact info. The heat will hit them through their corporate office. Worst case scenario I just got a Nexus early! Yay! If the screen has issues then he can swap it out within 2 weeks and surely it'll be released by then. Best case scenario they offer something to me as a valued customer. I return the phone and take down the videos. Wait a week then buy the phone again (or BB gives it to me for free).

Sounds like this guy is not a shrewd negotiator, or maybe he's just not as greedy as me.

Honestly, me gut reaction after reading your post was that you were preaching blackmail and extortion. It's one thing that he should get to keep the phone as he did have a "contract", and was under no obligation to return it unless he wanted to. It's another to hold the man's job and livelihood over his head to get more than he deserved (and honestly, the phone was more than he deserved).

I have no problem saying "I'll return it for fair recompense", which in my opinion would be a replacement (temporary) phone, free of charge, until the Nexus comes out, and possibly a $50-100 BB gift card he could use when he purchases his Nexus. Putting videos up trying to get him fired though is a bit more than fair, and borders on extortion in my book.

I want the phone too, but getting someone fired who may have mouths to feed is just wrong in my book over a phone.

Not raggin' on ya.....just sayin'.

 

[Trusstopher]

lol, ill match any likes given :biggrin: any takers?

We just traded a "like" for a "like".... I feel dirty now...

 

[marknichelson]

What's wild to me is to read the releases in Australia and the UK. They talk about the phone being around $10 or free with their plans. Is it just in the U.S. that the carriers don't subsidize the full cost of the phone?

That's $10 per month, so you're paying $240 for the phone over the course of your 2 year contract.

 

[JSM9872]

Glad to see the new thread caught on just fine :big smile:

 

[patriot95]

All this reading results in one thing. I don't have a Nexus still. I don't know why I come back. Maybe I'm starting to enjoy the pain... or the shared pain. Good news is I have ICS running on my N1 now trying to hold me over while I tinker with it.

 

[ilikemoneygreen]

We just traded a "like" for a "like".... I feel dirty now...

:rofl2: made me spill my hot chocolate. u got chuckle out of me. It does feel kinda dirty trading it though huh?

 

[Trusstopher]

:rofl2: made me spill my hot chocolate. u got chuckle out of me. It does feel kinda dirty trading it though huh?

Yeah... I'd just assume "like" myself the privacy of my own thread than feel like I needed to make trades to get them...

 

[sbenson]

Ok, not to change topic, and I''m sorry if this is in the wrong section, just wanted to ask:

I know that the Gnex has an unlocked bootloader and will easily be rooted.
I also have seen some other posts about other phones and a question of whether S-Off is on or not.

What is S-Off and does it come into play with the GNex?

That's only for HTC phones.

And the Gnex has a locked bootloader out of the box. All Android phones come with locked bootloaders. This prevents people from screwing up their phones. Some phones come with encrypted bootloaders, like Motorola. Locked and encrypted are not the same thing. The Gnex has a simple command that unlocks the bootloader, so no worries!

 

[JSM9872]

Do we need to separate you two?

 

[Liderc]

This OT thread kills our chances to beat the TB thread :frown:

 

[Trusstopher]

Do we need to separate you two?

Nah, we are just getting friendly...

This OT thread kills our chances to beat the TB thread :frown:

Yeah, thinking about where we would be if we had the G-Nex talk in the other thread mixed with out talk in this thread makes me kind of sad, BUT, we have to remember that not everyone comes to these threads for the same reason and the device talks take priority over our banter and as such, those who want to discuss just the phone without having to filter through our crap have the right to do so. The only other altnertaive I could think of was to make another stick just for people to post their updates, but I have a feeling it would have ended up exactly the same as it is now.

 

[screaminz2002]

Honestly, me gut reaction after reading your post was that you were preaching blackmail and extortion. It's one thing that he should get to keep the phone as he did have a "contract", and was under no obligation to return it unless he wanted to. It's another to hold the man's job and livelihood over his head to get more than he deserved (and honestly, the phone was more than he deserved).

I have no problem saying "I'll return it for fair recompense", which in my opinion would be a replacement (temporary) phone, free of charge, until the Nexus comes out, and possibly a $50-100 BB gift card he could use when he purchases his Nexus. Putting videos up trying to get him fired though is a bit more than fair, and borders on extortion in my book.

I want the phone too, but getting someone fired who may have mouths to feed is just wrong in my book over a phone.

Not raggin' on ya.....just sayin'.

How can you say one amount is blackmail and another isn't? 50.00 is worth different things to different people. For 50.00 I wouldn't have driven back to the store let alone wasted 2 hours of my time discussing it with anyone. Besides the damage has been done and that employee/manager is already received whatever they are going to receive. Returning or keeping the phone is only a financial matter of what it's worth to BB to correct the problem. In this case it wasn't worth anything.