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[Updated] Verizon Plans To Eliminate 'Grandfathered' 3G Unlimited Data Plans
- Thread starter dgstorm
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False. If I use only Google Music in addition to my normal usage, on my drive to work just 3 days a week for a month, I'll be close to 5GB.
No Netflix nor Pandora.
On a related note, I'm now set with 4G as my 3G phone is being replaced with a 4G Rezound free under warranty (less than a month left BTW!! woot) :icon_ banana:
I had over a year left on my 2yr, so now I'll get it added on another yr with unlimited. currently being shipped to me. Cannot wait!! Got a Seidio Active case on order in red. yum.
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monkey_man
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What he said is true to many things tho :biggrin:... sadly tho... this is more than a rumour from an Online News. National Network Medias picked on this matter, for this is why the OP of this thread has been updated to Verizon's email follow up. He was right about one thing tho.. "Don't Buy into Verizon's fear Mongering." The more they see positive impact of such news, the more confident they are in following through in the future. Same goes with July 2011 rumor that started from Online, reps were saying the same exact thing as what you have wrote voodooCC. The result is tho... no more unlimited data plan and a promise from them that old users will be grandfathered in. What should we do? Should we just sit and chill till they started it like BoA did with $5 charge to debit account? This is nothing official anyways... as we are just bunch of lurkers (Verizon's reps, costumers, and verizon shareholders combined) here and discussing things so that we are prepared when this should happen in the future. If they don't pursue this matter... I'll be happy ofc. I understood about saving money and am all for it... but with the lost of Unlimited? I can't fathom that sorry... I rather pay $60 for 2 data phones than the chance of $60 for (2) 2GB data only... I understand also that this should benefit those that already in Tiered Data, but I can't see any benefits what so ever from Unlimited Users point of view. If they want to this for the kindness to help Tiered Data Users.. I am all for it but please don't mess around with Unlimited users!!! Too bad tho what they have in mind is GREED and not helping its costumers save some money. Remember that this data usage may not concern you, but please think of long term. More mistakes happen to children in their family plan anyways. I kid you not... if Family Tiered Data plan happens, I will drop my data phones and buy Verizon's stocks instead.
I kinda dig your sarcasm :rofl2:. This is just like those new users calling Verizon about 5GB cap on their Unlimited plan... the result is..... $30 upgrade fee and end of Unlimited data (or in better word a workshop for newbs :biggrin::happy3
I was right in one thing tho... Cheaper Android phones... so your move Apple :icon_ lala:. I read online that Verizon are ordering Samsung Galaxy S3 for $249 (32GB) $249 + $30= $279 and still cheaper than my $299 Razr Maxx.ISP now have less of an excuse to cap our data unlike before. Many media companies (legal ones) are moving into Internet. The end of a Megaupload era should also be the end of capping our data. The concern is tho... Comcast tried this for bypassing their Cap when users are accessing Comcast's own services. Comcast got in trouble with it (Internet Neutrality Act). ISP now want companies that market their service in the Internet area to pay more fees to use their road. I can't wait for Google to get into this Wireless business and see the end of their competitors just like what happened to many GPS companies Like Verizon paid GPS app for an example.
What Kodiak said about users change of habit once they transitioned from 3G to 4G is correct. If the phone is slow as heck, then 4G be useless unless you tether the darn thing. Same goes with faster phone under snail 3G mode. In this case, the perfect storm happened. A phone that is so powerful that it can become a netbook with satellite like coverage where you don't need to borrow Library's internet to access outside of your home.
I even show you my data usage that with double the data to 4GB am still well ... OK... (No Wifi ever) as my end of billing cycle is on the 8th. This is not the point tho right... I don't like to lose what I am able to do right now with some stupid reason that Verizon gave via their CFO.
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monkey_man
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I guess that's the thing tho right?? This thing doesn't happen because of your 100GB usage... This happens because many of ISP's own services get cut by loophole that they made through all you can eat data usage, and of which been utilized well by other companies to reap massive profits. No more texting fee as costumers found out that they can IM that uses data instead of paying that unlimited texting fee. Google Music/Video that eliminate Verizon Music/Video App, and also VerizonNav that was outgunned by Google's GPS service. The saddest thing is that 3rd party apps provide better services than Verizon's own. The only thing that came up good for these ISPs is their fabulous data streams. Don't kid yourself tho ok, No one would pay $30 and no one would give others mouth to mouth advertising, if internet is bore as heck!
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Again, shifting usage. How did you ever survive a year ago? Perhaps used that thing called a radio? And one hour of music is only @60 megs, so you must have like a 2-hr commute each way.
It's not like you can't put a lot of music on your SD. Might be why I bought a 64-gig card for my Rezound, but that's just me.
Not saying you should. But those of us who do pay for wifi are unsympathetic to your complaints of being wronged or cheated. Those of us who only use our phone for, you know, MOBILE data don't have any problems staying under 2gigs.
It's a convenience and not an ISP replacement. That you've been able to free-ride all this time really doesn't change the dynamic any.
monkey_man
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This is really an end of an era 
. What these new and stubborn CEOs/CFOs doing this present times really can't stop amusing me :biggrin:. Do they expect that people should be bunch of "OK" Sheeps and that "Land of the Free" meant for nothing? What an ending to previous CEOs/CFOs where they were thanking companies like Google to death! Companies that make ISP providers flourished and made them bunch of millionaires/billionaires as companies like Google helped popularize what an Internet can do in the long run. Now, these bratz who just enjoyed what their previous predecessors did really ruins things up (ruin us first of course :rofl2:, them later (got fired/company meltdown (aka Sharper Image)) in hope to make a name for themselves. Seriously, why are they now so cocky in how they believe that they are able to compete and make their own services. Services that compete well against rivals like Google or Apple Itunes and etc? They are saying that who need these companies now as ISP providers believe they can conquer the whole pie themselves. Did they forget what happened with Microsoft when they tried to acquit all rivals to compile all of their programs within one in their OS disk? An OS disk that so important and would cost alot? It is so much that it was beneficial to PC/laptop makers and stockholders? Didn't they got Antitrust on them? Or was it wrong to step in at that time and let the Microsoft did what it felt best for their future well being? Even after antitrust stepped in and stopped what could be a nightmare for many people, how are Microsoft doing at this moment? Are they filling for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy? I don't think so. Comcast got in trouble when they tried to attract more costumers by unlimiting data usage for all of Comcast own services. All companies that depends on the internet cried foul play! Since now Greed is the only thing they had in mind.... Are they thinking that they are creating a win/win solution as they gather information that people now are obsessed like a junkie with Internet that who cares if they cap their own services as well as in the end of the month they will get money from people that went over? Heck, Comcast recently upped their cap from 250GB to 300GB.
. What these new and stubborn CEOs/CFOs doing this present times really can't stop amusing me :biggrin:. Do they expect that people should be bunch of "OK" Sheeps and that "Land of the Free" meant for nothing? What an ending to previous CEOs/CFOs where they were thanking companies like Google to death! Companies that make ISP providers flourished and made them bunch of millionaires/billionaires as companies like Google helped popularize what an Internet can do in the long run. Now, these bratz who just enjoyed what their previous predecessors did really ruins things up (ruin us first of course :rofl2:, them later (got fired/company meltdown (aka Sharper Image)) in hope to make a name for themselves. Seriously, why are they now so cocky in how they believe that they are able to compete and make their own services. Services that compete well against rivals like Google or Apple Itunes and etc? They are saying that who need these companies now as ISP providers believe they can conquer the whole pie themselves. Did they forget what happened with Microsoft when they tried to acquit all rivals to compile all of their programs within one in their OS disk? An OS disk that so important and would cost alot? It is so much that it was beneficial to PC/laptop makers and stockholders? Didn't they got Antitrust on them? Or was it wrong to step in at that time and let the Microsoft did what it felt best for their future well being? Even after antitrust stepped in and stopped what could be a nightmare for many people, how are Microsoft doing at this moment? Are they filling for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy? I don't think so. Comcast got in trouble when they tried to attract more costumers by unlimiting data usage for all of Comcast own services. All companies that depends on the internet cried foul play! Since now Greed is the only thing they had in mind.... Are they thinking that they are creating a win/win solution as they gather information that people now are obsessed like a junkie with Internet that who cares if they cap their own services as well as in the end of the month they will get money from people that went over? Heck, Comcast recently upped their cap from 250GB to 300GB.
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dsteinschneider
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We also have 4 $30 plans and use under 2GB. Still not getting hopes up that this will put a dent in our enormous monthly Verizon bill, there will probably be some reason the bill stays the same.
There is WiFi almost everywhere I use my phone, the likely reason for much higher mobile data usage is people who don't have cable/DSL and do stuff like stream movies.
The tricky part here will be making sure you aren't accidentally watching a movie streaming HD over 4G. As long as you stay off video even tethering for browsing and email and occasional youtube won't put you over the limit.
BTW, it took years before I gave in to upgrading kids from texting to phones that required $30 data plans. Families will deploy "smartphones" much more readily.
There is WiFi almost everywhere I use my phone, the likely reason for much higher mobile data usage is people who don't have cable/DSL and do stuff like stream movies.
The tricky part here will be making sure you aren't accidentally watching a movie streaming HD over 4G. As long as you stay off video even tethering for browsing and email and occasional youtube won't put you over the limit.
BTW, it took years before I gave in to upgrading kids from texting to phones that required $30 data plans. Families will deploy "smartphones" much more readily.
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cybertec69
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sampsonX2 said:
Ok, one more time, if your plan expires and you upgrade to a 4G phone at a Verizon Subsidized price your unlimited data is NO MORE, now if you buy the phone from eBay or anyone or anyplace at full retail or close to retail price " Verizon does not care what you pay for the phone" you will keep your unlimited data and be on a month to month payment plan. So whining on this board about leaving and canceling, it makes no difference to Verizon.Verizon is a corporate business that will look out for their share holders " that's what corporations do that are in the stock market" , even corporations that are not in the stock market, at the end of the day if your business is not profitable it will FAIL.
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monkey_man
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1. Everything is the same at this current time, so please don't get confuse (yet) for those that are having an expiring contract. This is big news and will get pick up by TV medias whenever they see movement about this issue. If this happens tho, then likelier chance of what Cybertec said is true as it's based on Verizon's Email.
2. Right All about actual action as that what concern Verizon the most as a company who explored further in Internet Capable phones.
3. Define Profitable :biggrin: . I am not advocating of how much money is much, as it varies and I am all about you should getting what's you deserved. I am sure of one thing tho that Companies that don't care about general well-being of its costumers tend to fail, or had to move to different place in the world. It's better to quickly patch cracked road before it creates a sinkhole as that will end worse and costly.
4. One thing of being a shareholder is to see if it works for some time as an investment. Verizon's now is like a company that works in Gold Mining business with all the caves they made to reach their sure target. They had the backers of "shareholders" to pay expenses in hope of some massive profits. Both sides are happy and created themselves a win/win solution. The problem is that Verizon don't take care it's workers (us costumers) well to make the ecosystem work properly. How can this promiseland of getting "gold' work when there are no interest from the workers (customers that pay for the sort of thing) to do it?? Once this happens, all the caves they made can soon cave-in. You know the cost added to that?
Who do you plan to switch to? The carriers like Sprint who still offer unlimited data have awful nationwide service. What's the point in unlimited data if you don't have the coverage or speed to actually use it?
ndtaylor77
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geoff5093 said:
Some people live in areas that have great coverage with Sprint. I've recently checked with every carrier in my area and Verizon is at least $20 more a month for similar plans. Most other carriers don't charge extra for mobile hotspot and give more data for the dollar than Verizon. I get what your saying. Verizon may be the only option for some, but not for everyone.