do you have proof? irrefutable evidence that MOST people agree with you? just because you think it's true doesn't make it true.
you state your opinions as fact when they aren't
I'm not entitled to anything, however keep in mind this is a capitalist society mate, they have the right to raise their prices, and I have the right to whine ***** and moan about it until they either change it or tell me to shove it. I also have the right to leave and go somewhere else... THAT is my right. you have the right to tell me to shut up just like I can tell you to shove it. what I want to know is WHY you waste your time and energy EVERY SINGLE TIME telling EVERYONE who is complaining that they are wrong.
you also have no proof that the ones complaining the most are the ones abusing it, you feel this is true, but you don't know.
your argument is a red herring stealing cable television AND using your data as DATA on a phone tethered to a tablet or PC is completely different. you aren't consuming anything other than data.. unlike paid for programming.
and no VZW is NOT doing this because of the supposed data abuse, their network can easily take more than is being consumed, they are doing this because if they get everyone OFF of unlimited it will help them make more money. if only 1% of ALL subscribers are actually abusing data (you know the number is FAR FAR FAR lower than that) it's still a paltry amount of data an abuse for the effort they are taking. do the math, their reasons cannot be as benevolent as you seem to think. remember they are a corporation, not the benefit kind either.
Your argument is way off.
Do you tether? Or do you think that the majority of the people here with UDP tether?
I think that most do. And that right there is a difference.
If you were on a 20GB plan, I would say you were right. You are paying for 20GB, and you should be able to consume that 20GB any way you like... with your phone, or your iPad or laptop through tethering... And you know what? VZW agrees with that.
However, when you are on UDP, there are guidelines and stipulations in the contract. One of them is that you cannot tether unless you pay for it. Which I am pretty sure that you, along with most of the UDP folks here, don't. It's like going to a restaurant and you buying a nice ribeye... You can eat it any way you want, or share it with your wife or friend, etc... Nobody cares because you bought a ribeye and the ribeye was consumed.
However, when it is all you can eat, there tend to be stipulations. You cannot have 5 of you show up, pay for one ticket, and all of you sit there and eat unlimited for the price of one person.
And if they let you because you have some loophole or an app that lets you get around their policy(the terms of service) that lets you sneak food to the others, and they finally decide to crack down on it and either kick you out, or charge you for the others, then you really have no right to whine about it. I mean, it's a free country, you can whine about anything you want, but you aren't being intellectually honest when you do it.
Listen to the obvious point I am making and the spirit of their TOS, rather than just picking apart my words and looking for some bit of semantics to exploit in an effort to win an internet debate... So don't waste our time with trying to argue how the all you can eat buffet analogy is wrong because in your case you are the one doing all the eating... Don't. It holds up because the reality is that like bringing friends to the buffet, when you are consuming on your phone, you typically won't consume as much as when you are also using your laptop, your iPad, maybe the wife or kid's tablet, etc... The law of averages says that with more devices consuming data, more data is likely to be consumed. Just because *you* might not, is irrelevant. This isn't about YOU. VZW is not enacting pricing or policy changes for YOU. We both know that on average, people on UDP and tethering are doing so to soak up a lot of data in violation of the TOS. If they weren't, then they wouldn't care much about UDP and just be on a tiered plan, in most cases...
They sold UDP many years ago when the average cell phone might consume a couple GB a month. And we both know that a lot of people here abused that with tethering hacks. Hell, every time a new OTA is announced, the first question typically asked is if it is rooted and if FoxFi or other tethering apps work, and we both know it. And the reason is people that are in UPD and tethering in violation of VZW's TOS, want to continue to abuse the system. If they were not on UDP and "illegally" tethering, it wouldn't be an issue because VZW lets tiered plans tether all day long no problem...
I don't see a problem with them increasing the price on UDP. I pay more for my cell phone bill than I did several years ago, so why shouldn't you?
