Verizon is Raising Prices on Grandfathered Unlimited Plans by $20

[jackiescivic]

I remember when I first got unlimited data. I believe I had the BlackBerry Tour. A lovely 3G that I averaged maybe . 01gb with lol. Even with my Droid Incredible or Droid X2 I still used very little data. Once I went to LTE with the Razr Maxx, the tables turned. But the highest I ever used when I had my unlimited was 2gb because I had, and was used to, using wifi. Now that I've got 11gb I'll use maybe 6 when not on wifi.
My point is, unlimited was designed in a time when data was not being used much because smartphones didn't have a whole lot going on yet. As the connections changed, the plans changed and unlimited was taken away. EVERY ONE knows that this day would come when Big Red would charge you more to keep it. If having unlimited is THAT important to you, then you're going to be willing to pay for it. Plain and simple. The comment previously about paying 2008 prices is right on, in my professional opinion. As is the comment of being out of contract and therefore being subject to price changes.
People will say 'they can't just change my plan on me', but it's not your plan they are changing. Data is a feature. If you don't like it, you're more than welcome to leave Verizon
That being said, I do see the
point of those who still have unlimited. Verizon has been wishy-washy for years with these people so it is understandable to be upset.
I wouldn't be surprised if AT&T follows suit shortly.

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[SquireSCA]

I read it, and the 2 pages before. I didn't feel the need to articulate an actual response other than arguing about UDP and who does what on it isn't the purpose of this thread. Yet it's still the focal point for some reason.

Because it is likely the reason *why* Verizon is making changes, that's why.

 

[Raverrevolution]

How can you side with Verizon on this when it's clear as day that all they want to do is fill their pockets even deeper?

Back in the day when we didn't have smartphones VZW would take advantage of charging people per text and minutes.

The point I'm trying to make is that no matter the argument VZW is not your friend. They do not care about you. All they care about is making as much money as possible sucking you dry. Moves like this just fuel their greed.

 

[SquireSCA]

I remember when I first got unlimited data. I believe I had the BlackBerry Tour. A lovely 3G that I averaged maybe . 01gb with lol. Even with my Droid Incredible or Droid X2 I still used very little data. Once I went to LTE with the Razr Maxx, the tables turned. But the highest I ever used when I had my unlimited was 2gb because I had, and was used to, using wifi. Now that I've got 11gb I'll use maybe 6 when not on wifi.
My point is, unlimited was designed in a time when data was not being used much because smartphones didn't have a whole lot going on yet. As the connections changed, the plans changed and unlimited was taken away. EVERY ONE knows that this day would come when Big Red would charge you more to keep it. If having unlimited is THAT important to you, then you're going to be willing to pay for it. Plain and simple. The comment previously about paying 2008 prices is right on, in my professional opinion. As is the comment of being out of contract and therefore being subject to price changes.
People will say 'they can't just change my plan on me', but it's not your plan they are changing. Data is a feature. If you don't like it, you're more than welcome to leave Verizon
That being said, I do see the
point of those who still have unlimited. Verizon has been wishy-washy for years with these people so it is understandable to be upset.
I wouldn't be surprised if AT&T follows suit shortly.

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Bingo.

Unlimited was sold at a time when not a lot of data was consumed. Although I remember reading posts of people tethering their homes and xbox and using up 100GB a month, and they felt entitled to it at the time...

I see many of the same arguments today, and I am just pointing out, as you have, why they really don't hold a lot of water...

The, "but I want it" defense isn't all that compelling...

 

[jackiescivic]

How can you side with Verizon on this when it's clear as day that all they want to do is fill their pockets even deeper?

Back in the day when we didn't have smartphones VZW would take advantage of charging people per text and minutes.

The point I'm trying to make is that no matter the argument VZW is not your friend. They do not care about you. All they care about is making as much money as possible sucking you dry. Moves like this just fuel their greed.

The same can be said for every carrier then. They all have had limited minute/text plans over the years. Back then, those things were the commodity. Now, it's data.

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[SquireSCA]

The same can be said for every carrier then. They all have had limited minute/text plans over the years. Back then, those things were the commodity. Now, it's data.

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The same can be said for any business, not just cell phone providers and VZW.

 

[jackiescivic]

Bingo.

Unlimited was sold at a time when not a lot of data was consumed. Although I remember reading posts of people tethering their homes and xbox and using up 100GB a month, and they felt entitled to it at the time...

I see many of the same arguments today, and I am just pointing out, as you have, why they really don't hold a lot of water...

The, "but I want it" defense isn't all that compelling...

I think everyone 'wants' unlimited. Not having to worry about how much data they are using each month, it makes perfect sense. But the AVERAGE smartphone user uses only about 2-3gb of data per month. Therefore, these carriers cater marketing to that, which in turn generates more profit, whether they go over their data or move their plan up when necessary. On a technical site as this, we are going to see the 1% show their face and voice their opinions like crazy, and they have the right to. But the reality of it is that for every unlimited user that leaves, another 5-10 limited data users are going to join Verizon for the c9verage they give. Let's be honest here, Verizon isn't in this to get a ton more money out of people. They make a ton more on every new line of service that comes to them.

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[Sajo]

I have unlimited data, the old grandfathered plan. And just to be clear..... I have NEVER tethered my phone, used foxfi or any other means of using my data except my phone. We don't all root and tether. Am I happy about this...No. Did I see it coming eventually...Yes. Personally.....I really don't care. My Verizon bill is so ridiculous right now...what's another $20? If I want to keep using unlimited data....I will pay $20 extra. If I decide that I don't need unlimited anymore.... I will change my plan. Simple & easy. No point arguing about it. [emoji41] [emoji3]

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[Raverrevolution]

Verizon is in this to make as much as possible and stay the monopoly they are. They need true competition and I'm hoping they go the way of AOL which is odd because they own them.

 

[SquireSCA]

I have unlimited data, the old grandfathered plan. And just to be clear..... I have NEVER tethered my phone, used foxfi or any other means of using my data except my phone. We don't all root and tether. Am I happy about this...No. Did I see it coming eventually...Yes. Personally.....I really don't care. My Verizon bill is so ridiculous right now...what's another $20? If I want to keep using unlimited data....I will pay $20 extra. If I decide that I don't need unlimited anymore.... I will change my plan. Simple & easy. No point arguing about it. [emoji41] [emoji3]

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You don't all root and tether. Nobody said that you did, but most do, and VZW knows this. They may be many things, but they are not stupid. But your stance is logical...

 

[SquireSCA]

Verizon is in this to make as much as possible and stay the monopoly they are. They need true competition and I'm hoping they go the way of AOL which is odd because they own them.

I don't know how they qualify as a monopoly when they have several competitors that have significant marketshare... ATT, T-Mo, Sprint... then the smaller carriers like boost, Cricket, etc...

 

[PereDroid]

How can you side with Verizon on this when it's clear as day that all they want to do is fill their pockets even deeper?

Before this thread I wouldn't have sided with Verizon. But after seeing someone who REGULARLY uses 50-60 GB? Sorry. That dude SHOULD pay a few more dollars. He's ruining it for the rest of us that only use a paltry 5-6GB. (I'm really not calling anyone out here, just using him as an example for effect). If every UD user was only using less then 10GB this might not have happened. (Again, exaggerating for effect).

The point I'm trying to make is that no matter the argument VZW is not your friend.

LOL What company IS your friend? Come on man. They are out to make a profit like just about every business on planet Earth.

They do not care about you.

I hear so many people COMMEND VZW for their customer service. Even heard people here say it's one of the reasons they stay.

All they care about is making as much money as possible sucking you dry. Moves like this just fuel their greed.

Again... come on. "Sucking you dry"? I'm pretty sure the CIO and CEO aren't sitting in an office somewhere thinking of ways to SUCK YOU DRY.
Personally I think VZW is overpriced. I think every major carrier is. But it is what it is. It is the goal is to make a profit for THE AMERICANS who own VZW stock.
This isn't GREED.
It's the AMERICAN WAY.

You have a choice. Leave. Straight Talk is only $45/month if you don't mind using a Samsung Gravity.

Having said all that I DO want to talk about re: my comment about leaving VZW. My wife and I had terrible VZW coverage. For YEARS. 1bar of 4G that would occasionally slip to 1 bar of 3G. It was horrible. This is why I said "UD was the only thing keeping us on VZW".
But...just within the past month or 6 weeks, I think VZW added a tower near us because our signal has VASTLY improved. AND since the wife just got an iPhone 6 less then a year ago, we are probably going to stay at least for a little.

 

[SquireSCA]

Before this thread I wouldn't have sided with Verizon. But after seeing someone who REGULARLY uses 50-60 GB? Sorry. That dude SHOULD pay a few more dollars. He's ruining it for the rest of us that only use a paltry 5-6GB. (I'm really not calling anyone out here, just using him as an example for effect). If every UD user was only using less then 10GB this might not have happened. (Again, exaggerating for effect).


LOL What company IS your friend? Come on man. They are out to make a profit like just about every business on planet Earth.


I hear so many people COMMEND VZW for their customer service. Even heard people here say it's one of the reasons they stay.



Again... come on. "Sucking you dry"? I'm pretty sure the CIO and CEO aren't sitting in an office somewhere thinking of ways to SUCK YOU DRY.
Personally I think VZW is overpriced. I think every major carrier is. But it is what it is. It is the goal is to make a profit for THE AMERICANS who own VZW stock.
This isn't GREED.
It's the AMERICAN WAY.

You have a choice. Leave. Straight Talk is only $45/month if you don't mind using a Samsung Gravity.

Having said all that I DO want to talk about re: my comment about leaving VZW. My wife and I had terrible VZW coverage. For YEARS. 1bar of 4G that would occasionally slip to 1 bar of 3G. It was horrible. This is why I said "UD was the only thing keeping us on VZW".
But...just within the past month or 6 weeks, I think VZW added a tower near us because our signal has VASTLY improved. AND since the wife just got an iPhone 6 less then a year ago, we are probably going to stay at least for a little.

I have the best coverage with VZW. Many years ago, I didn't. I worked from home and couldn't get a reliable signal unless I left my subdivision, and when I called them, they sent a tech out to test my house and confirmed that the signal strength was too low, and so they let me out of my contract with no ETF.

I went to ATT and had dropped calls 10x a day no matter where I was. Eventually VZW put up a tower there and I went back and was happy ever since. Yeah, they charge more, but in this case you get what you pay for. I went to Sprint to get the $99 Everything plan, and the coverage was crap. I was getting 1,000ms pings and less than 56k dial up speeds in downtown Atlanta with 4 bars of signal. It was horrendous, so I went back to VZW again, and its great.

I had UDP for awhile but I just don't use a ton of data, I have wifi a lot and so I didn't feel it was worth having UDP if it meant me paying triple the cost for a phone upgrade. I did the math, and paying full price for a phone cost me more than keeping the UDP that I frankly didn't have a use for other than bragging rights, so I went tiered and tether when I need to without having to root or mess with the phone, etc...

 

[cybertec69]

My answer to the rate increase is no more WiFi, I will burn through data like there is no tomorrow, it costs me $300+ a month between Verizon Fios and my wireless plan. Once my Fios plan is up, it will be terminated, TWC here I come.

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[SquireSCA]

My answer to the rate increase is no more WiFi, I will burn through data like there is no tomorrow, it costs me $300+ a month between Verizon Fios and my wireless plan. Once my Fios plan is up, it will be terminated, TWC here I come.

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Just to make sure I understand you....

As VZW cracks down on people using lots of data, your response will be to use even more? hehe