Exactly... ppl like to treat this like it's some moral or ethical dilemma....it's not. It's you signing a contract and then willfully breaking it...and then whining about it when caught...theres no other way to spin it, analogies or not.
DroidForums.net | Android Forum & News
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
Verizon Plans to Stop Unsanctioned Tethering that Uses Unofficial Apps
- Thread starter dgstorm
- Start date
Exactly... ppl like to treat this like it's some moral or ethical dilemma....it's not. It's you signing a contract and then willfully breaking it...and then whining about it when caught...theres no other way to spin it, analogies or not.
captain howdy
Member
I don't feather but I do see the augment for this. It would be like your cable company charging you extra because you have more than 1 computer hooked up. Verizon is no different than comcast etc. You sign a contract to use data. But now Verizon wants to charge for more than the item they sold you to use their network.
Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using DroidForums
Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using DroidForums
Exactly, but because they put it in the fine print on page 7 of the contract, its ok for them to do that.
I understand how a contract works, and the argument that if you sign it, shame on you.
Of course, there are instances where I can sign a waiver, which is a contract, and yet if I get hurt I can still sue and the waiver means nothing.
Like I said before, if that passed a law saying no more contracts for phones, VZW would do a complete reversal of this. They do what they do and double-charge like they do *only* because they got you to sign a piece of paper saying that they can.
If they had to earn your business every month to keep you rather than reply on a contract and ETF to keep you there, the diference in features, service and products would be profound.
But that's a pipe dream. These companies spend too much money lobbying to ever allow that to happen.
Dude...you do know that you can turn off your phone and go to another carrier, don't you? The consumer always has choices. You make it sound like they take away your choices by offering you a better price for a long term contract. You always have a choice.
Nate
He's talking about real choices. Not the ETF laden choices of what we deal with now.
Bingo. You get a cookie! hehe
Of course it's a pipe dream and a pointless one at that...that's like saying if the us just gave everyone money everything would be fine.
The only way to make a difference is voting with your wallet...no one does that, rather they just whine and find ways to lie to themselves that what they're doing is justified. Clear case of entitlement.
He's talking about real choices. Not the ETF laden choices of what we deal with now.
Bingo. You get a cookie! hehe
Silly argument....so keep paying the horrible company far more then you will in ETFs? And that somehow...makes sense?
The contracts, which is the TOS and what all this is about, is a bunch of crap.
If I break the contract by tethering my device, they can terminate the contract and charge me an ETF.
When AT&T's service had my iPhone dropping 8-10 calls a day in a 4 bar 3G area and they could not live up to the service that I needed as I used my phone for work, do I get to break the contract for them not keeping up their end?
No, of course not... If I violate the TOS I have to pay the ETF. if they cannot deliver the service I am paying for, they point to the fine print that says that their service is not gauranteed, so I still have to pay the ETF to leave.
That's the kind of crap that I think a law should address. They force you to sign a TOS and contracts, whether you get the cheaper price on the phone or not, that completely stacks the deck against the customer, which is the only reason that these corporations can even exist in the first place.
And because they know they have these contracts, they can be lazy, do stupid things, double-charge you, provide crappy service, etc...
I have worked for companies that relied on contracts to hold customers under their thumb, and I have worked for companies that have to earn your business each and every month to keep it, and the differences in how they conduct business is light and day. Its an entirely different world...
If I break the contract by tethering my device, they can terminate the contract and charge me an ETF.
When AT&T's service had my iPhone dropping 8-10 calls a day in a 4 bar 3G area and they could not live up to the service that I needed as I used my phone for work, do I get to break the contract for them not keeping up their end?
No, of course not... If I violate the TOS I have to pay the ETF. if they cannot deliver the service I am paying for, they point to the fine print that says that their service is not gauranteed, so I still have to pay the ETF to leave.
That's the kind of crap that I think a law should address. They force you to sign a TOS and contracts, whether you get the cheaper price on the phone or not, that completely stacks the deck against the customer, which is the only reason that these corporations can even exist in the first place.
And because they know they have these contracts, they can be lazy, do stupid things, double-charge you, provide crappy service, etc...
I have worked for companies that relied on contracts to hold customers under their thumb, and I have worked for companies that have to earn your business each and every month to keep it, and the differences in how they conduct business is light and day. Its an entirely different world...
Lol...yes as you pay what? $150/month for everything else? Like I said, you admit you barely use tethering, so your argument is doubly silly...."ill keep paying you as you rip me off and the etf is what's keeping me here, so I will pay three or four times the etf every year to stay here!"
Well yeah...if you're looking for a complete corporate overhaul in the united states, I can see why you'd be upset. Most ppl are probably more realisitc haha (I hope)...and tethering while allowing them to rip you off every other way definitely isn't the road to corporate change...
Like I've said many times, so be it. At this current time our relationship is perfect. I feel I get what I pay for by getting screwed on my voice minutes, but I make up for it by using my data plan to text, and do tethering whenever I need it and not paying the ridiculous extra fee associated.
Sounds good...no real need to call ppl ignorant then right?