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Verizon to drop Unlimited Data on 7/29, tiered pricing to follow?

But you're forgetting the grossly overpriced talk/text plans we are forced into getting in your electric company analogy. We are already paying well more than enough to subsidize our data use.

By whose reckoning? Look, I'm not defending VZW's pricing. I'm simply pointing out that it is firms, not individual customers, who determine pricing. They may well respond to market pressures, but only if they are forced to do so. There is no such thing in a market as a way to evaluate whether consumers are "paying well more than enough" to do anything. If consumers pay the price that is what the service is "worth."

In this particular case, consumers are their own worst enemy. By insisting on cheap, subsidized phones they provide a cushion for VZW and other carriers through multi-year contracts.

The EU figured this out years ago. That's why GSM networks are the rule, not the exception in Europe. If consumers find that they are being overcharged, they can take their business elsewhere simply by replacing a SIM chip. And by separating the purchase of a phone from the selection of a carrier, the latter must respond to market pressure. In the US, any concerted market pressure is blunted by consumers locked into multi-year contracts.

In short, if you want your carrier to pay for your phone, be prepared to have little leverage over their pricing policies.
 
(i.e. unlimited data after 9PM).
Yes I think this is the true solution to the problem. That way, people will shift their usage and maybe won't download that large file at 3pm in the afternoon if they can wait til after 9pm to do it. It makes sense to me. Just cap the peak hours.
How about downloasding that LARGE file at home on your wifi network, which is a ton faster and it doesnot use the 3g network, that's what I do. As soon asI am 30 yards from from my house my Incredible picks up my wifi.
 
That is true. But Europeans are still screwed by the phone costs. A cell phone with parts that average $100-$150 should not cost $600 without a contract. It should be somewhere in the range of $300. Both sides of the pond we are getting crap handed to us, but in different ways. Just sick of the whole cell phone game either way they try to play it. :icon_evil:
 
(i.e. unlimited data after 9PM).
Yes I think this is the true solution to the problem. That way, people will shift their usage and maybe won't download that large file at 3pm in the afternoon if they can wait til after 9pm to do it. It makes sense to me. Just cap the peak hours.
How about downloasding that LARGE file at home on your wifi network, which is a ton faster and it doesnot use the 3g network, that's what I do. As soon asI am 30 yards from from my house my Incredible picks up my wifi.

I don't have wifi at the moment. You guys can't be blaming the people who use 5+ gigs. If verizon comes out with a statement that says everyone who use 5 or more gigs you're to blame.. then ill definetly take blame. But seriously the people in verizon aren't dumb they knew what they were getting into when they gave a smartphone unlimited data. They knew we'd eventually tether. Now they're just waiting for the right time to start charging people more.

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That is true. But Europeans are still screwed by the phone costs. A cell phone with parts that average $100-$150 should not cost $600 without a contract. It should be somewhere in the range of $300. Both sides of the pond we are getting crap handed to us, but in different ways. Just sick of the whole cell phone game either way they try to play it. :icon_evil:

Again with the assertion of what the cost "should be?" Just how did you come up with $300?
 
Seems pretty reasonable for something to cost twice or a little more than the cost of the parts. It's unreasonable when my phone cost as much as a 46" plasma television.
 
(i.e. unlimited data after 9PM).
Yes I think this is the true solution to the problem. That way, people will shift their usage and maybe won't download that large file at 3pm in the afternoon if they can wait til after 9pm to do it. It makes sense to me. Just cap the peak hours.
How about downloasding that LARGE file at home on your wifi network, which is a ton faster and it doesnot use the 3g network, that's what I do. As soon asI am 30 yards from from my house my Incredible picks up my wifi.

Stop assuming people have wi-fi. If I had wi-fi I wouldn't need a smartphone. There are 14-24 million American households that do not have access to any form of broadband. No I do not tether. I took my computer down and put it in the closet. My Droid does everything I need.
 
Surely if this happens, I will drop any dealings with Verizon and go to Cricket. I hear they have unlimited data packages, and they are cheaper. The only sad thing is, they are not so good for roaming and people who travel, but either way I am not going to pay a bunch of money (When I already do) to get a service like this. I will just use my computer and get rid of the "smart-phone". I somehow forsee lots of other people cutting dealings with verizon if this happens. It's a matter of cost, with the economy at a low point, it is rediculous to expect your customers to accept something as absured as this.
 
There is no way I will pay more than what I pay now for data... I have unlimited data for three droids and a notebook... Could not afford 4 plans after that... and on 3G! Will have to find a different service!
 
There is no way I will pay more than what I pay now for data... I have unlimited data for three droids and a notebook... Could not afford 4 plans after that... and on 3G! Will have to find a different service!

I hear that, I have 5 line and 3 have unlimited data @ 30 a pop and one has a 25MB package for 10bux. 100 of my bill is just data access. I feel im entitled to use way more than we do now. I bet we wont hit 5 gb combined, but what is 100bux of data worth?
 
There is no way I will pay more than what I pay now for data... I have unlimited data for three droids and a notebook... Could not afford 4 plans after that... and on 3G! Will have to find a different service!

I hear that, I have 5 line and 3 have unlimited data @ 30 a pop and one has a 25MB package for 10bux. 100 of my bill is just data access. I feel im entitled to use way more than we do now. I bet we wont hit 5 gb combined, but what is 100bux of data worth?
Verizons getting $365.00 a month from me! I for that price I will try to use 20G's LOL
 
That is true. But Europeans are still screwed by the phone costs. A cell phone with parts that average $100-$150 should not cost $600 without a contract. It should be somewhere in the range of $300. Both sides of the pond we are getting crap handed to us, but in different ways. Just sick of the whole cell phone game either way they try to play it. :icon_evil:

Again with the assertion of what the cost "should be?" Just how did you come up with $300?

Market research by a company trying to determine price often asks the customer what he or she thinks the price "should be." So, along with R&D, manufacturing, shipping, service, and other costs, the company does take into account what a customer is willing to pay. I'm thinking Verizon's research (and, the Droid having been around a while now, the reality) has shown them that they can command higher than $300.
 
IPAD and no data plan

I saw a guy using an Ipad up in a marina in Canada the other day. It was a 3G model but he did not have a data plan and said he only uses it on WiFi. He got the 3G model for the GPS. He purchased a 25 dollar marine nav program that gave him all the charts from the middle of Oregon up through BC, Canada. He was using it to navigate his boat, email, read book etc etc. Nice screen!!!

We need a smart phone with WiFi that does not require a 3g data plan!!!! I wonder what VZ would do after your contract date if you marched in and said, cancel my data plan!

Chris
 
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