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Verizon's New Data Plans & Unlimited Grandfathered Reaffirmed in Training Doc Leak

just so im clear...i have unlimited 3g...if i upgrade to the bionic n get 4g...im still inn unlimited 4g plan correct i dont have to get a tiered plan?...i still havent seen clarification upgrading from 3g-4g unlimited
 
just so im clear...i have unlimited 3g...if i upgrade to the bionic n get 4g...im still inn unlimited 4g plan correct i dont have to get a tiered plan?...i still havent seen clarification upgrading from 3g-4g unlimited

+1. I would also like clarification on this.
 
3G Data is the same as 4G data. Not everywhere in the US has 4G at this moment. If you're grandfathered in on an unlimited DATA plan, it doesn't matter what connection (3G or 4G) you're using, you have unlimited DATA. There aren't separate plans. What happens when you leave a 4G but not 3G covered area? Your data plan wouldn't switch back to unlimited... Tiered plans are about the amount of data you use, irregardless of what connection speed area you're in. Hope that helps.
 
3G Data is the same as 4G data. Not everywhere in the US has 4G at this moment. If you're grandfathered in on an unlimited DATA plan, it doesn't matter what connection (3G or 4G) you're using, you have unlimited DATA. There aren't separate plans. What happens when you leave a 4G but not 3G covered area? Your data plan wouldn't switch back to unlimited... Tiered plans are about the amount of data you use, irregardless of what connection speed area you're in. Hope that helps.

thats how i feel...hope you are correct my good sir
 
3G Data is the same as 4G data. Not everywhere in the US has 4G at this moment. If you're grandfathered in on an unlimited DATA plan, it doesn't matter what connection (3G or 4G) you're using, you have unlimited DATA. There aren't separate plans. What happens when you leave a 4G but not 3G covered area? Your data plan wouldn't switch back to unlimited... Tiered plans are about the amount of data you use, irregardless of what connection speed area you're in. Hope that helps.

Makes perfect sense to me. Thank you.
 
Looks someone will have to pay for that 4G LTE Network upgrade, and it's us the consumer, 2G for $30 a month is a buch of malarky, what's 2gigs nowadays, good thing I will be grandfathered in to the $30 a month unlimited data plan, even though I am not able to upgrade till mid December of 2011, till then my Incredible will serve me just fine.
This is another reason why the Gov't is trying real hard not to let this AT&T T-Mobile merger happen, less competition means even higher prices, what are these companies thinking, especially with the way the world economy is doing, which is at the moment in the craper.
 
I don't understand what some people are saying about corporate discounts and data...I have a corporate discount of 19% but the line is under my name. It does not being to my employer. I am just using their discount...do I get to keep the discount and my data plan???
yes, I am getting the same discount that you are getting.
 
Looks someone will have to pay for that 4G LTE Network upgrade, and it's us the consumer, 2G for $30 a month is a buch of malarky, what's 2gigs nowadays, good thing I will be grandfathered in to the $30 a month unlimited data plan, even though I am not able to upgrade till mid December of 2011, till then my Incredible will serve me just fine.
This is another reason why the Gov't is trying real hard not to let this AT&T T-Mobile merger happen, less competition means even higher prices, what are these companies thinking, especially with the way the world economy is doing, which is at the moment in the craper.

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Looks someone will have to pay for that 4G LTE Network upgrade, and it's us the consumer, 2G for $30 a month is a buch of malarky, what's 2gigs nowadays, good thing I will be grandfathered in to the $30 a month unlimited data plan, even though I am not able to upgrade till mid December of 2011, till then my Incredible will serve me just fine.
This is another reason why the Gov't is trying real hard not to let this AT&T T-Mobile merger happen, less competition means even higher prices, what are these companies thinking, especially with the way the world economy is doing, which is at the moment in the craper.

So who do you think would pay for it? Verizon is in business to make a profit, not gives gifts to consumers. Either we stay on 3G forever or we all have to pay for the upgrade to LTE. I don't like higher prices or less service either, but let's be realistic.
 
So I contacted Verizon trying to figure out how to keep the unlimited data when i transfer to an individual plan. This was the chat:

Please hold for a Verizon Wireless sales representative to assist you with your order. Thank you for your patience.
You are now chatting with 'Chelsea'
Chelsea: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. May I help you with your order today?
You: yeah, I have a few questions.
Chelsea: Great.
You: I am currently on a family plan, but want my own individual plan, the problem is my line's contract isn't up until, I think, November.
You: I want to be grandfathered in for the unlimited data though.
Chelsea: You can call customer service to do an Assumption of Liability.
You: What's that?
Chelsea: This is where you will take responsibility for your line, number, and condract.
Chelsea: contract.*
You: ok...Another problem i had though a couple of years ago was a $400 deposit was needed. It was why I was added to the family plan instead of getting my own line and plan.
You: If I did an Assupmtion of Liability, I would still need to do the deposit, correct?
Chelsea: I completely understand, a credit check will still be done as you will be moving everything over in your name. The credit check is based on your credit score and the history payment.
You: So the payment history, even if the plan isn't under my name, would reflect on your decision as to whether I needed a deposit or not?
You: In addition to a credit check of course.
Chelsea: History payment has nothing to do with the Verizon account but your actual credit and history payments that reflected in your credit information.
You: oh, I got it.
You: One last question...
Chelsea: Okay.
You: If I decided to do a month-to-month plan with unlimited data, and I later decided to do a 2-year contract (after 7/7), would I still keep my unlimited data?
Chelsea: At this time we unfortunately do not have access to that information.
You: ok. thank you.
You: That will be it.
Chelsea: You are so welcome.
Chelsea: Thank you for visiting Verizon Wireless, I look forward to speaking with you again. Have a great day!
You: You too.
Your chat session has been ended by your Verizon Wireless online agent.

Not looking good for me...might have to switch to sprint....
 
No you don't. As long as you have a data plan on your line, whenever you take it over all it does is change the payment responsibility. It doesn't change the contract terms.
 
No you don't. As long as you have a data plan on your line, whenever you take it over all it does is change the payment responsibility. It doesn't change the contract terms.


Yeah, I just spoke to someone at customer service and he confirmed that. While they don't want to mislead or divulge any information regarding the change, the basic message was this...

"If you do an Assumption of Liability, everything on the plan will stay the same unless you decide to change it. That includes upgrade date. If you decide to create a month-to-month plan that will be changed to a 2-year contract later [after 7/7], Verizon has in the past, and should continue, to just transfer everything over. If however, you add a phone to your contract that requires a change to your plan, you will then be held to the new terms and conditions."

It seems to me, that what he's saying is that, as long as you are just transferring between different contract types, there should not be a problem. If however, you went from a non-smartphone to a smartphone, then you have to accept the new terms and conditions.
 
I read through 7 pages and didn't really see my question addressed. I apologize if it was on the last 2 pages.

So we have 1 Android phone and 2 Blackberry's. How is this going to affect the Blackberry plans??? I didn't really see any mention of it in the leaked info. Will the Blackberry's be automatically transitioned to a smartphone plan and keep unlimited data?
 
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