What is keeping the Nexus devices from taking the lead?

[mountainbikermark]

I work in a retail setting and deal with many customers who use our website on a desktop/laptop then use their phones in store for verification or looking products up on our site. What I inevitably see is most have a Samsung device or iPhone. Most have nothing changed from how it was set up from the box. Many don't know how to check their email that they got stating their product is in or ready to be picked up if it was a "guest fulfill order" that I need the order number to put into our system so I can get their product to them from our backroom.
What costumers that I deal with seem to want in a phone is a good camera, one like their buddies have got and it look good in their case of choice. Then the other extreme is the cheapest one available on their pre pay network and a loud speakerphone . Those still have the same non tech savvy mindset in the least, or any desire to do so.
Most of my coworkers are pretty much the same, with their carrier seeming to take highest priority because they're either college students or more married to the company than the location of it they currently work at. I only work with, or have worked with 1 person that keeps up with all this stuff and he only does so to compare to his ios devices.
When I see folks in stores I'm in using their devices I see the same basic patterns. When I talk to people in general if the topic of a device comes up I am the one that initiates it and if we get as far as showing them mine they go cross eyed when they see I have a non stock launcher. One guy that repairs phones for a living saw my launcher and said "that's too complicated" when he saw it has more than 1 dock.
The Nexus lineup doesn't have anything special to offer those I mentioned above so there's no reason for them to want to change from the status quo they currently maintain. They are pretty much brand or price loyal only. I think this is why Verizon took a stab at the Gnex, for those loyal to a carrier more than a phone and those loyal to Samsung more than what it had to offer. When those that ended up buying the device were dissatisfied with how it was handled and its lack of quality Verizon abandoned it and the idea of selling anything Nexus just like they threw Windows Mobile out the window within minutes of releasing the Omnia 2, possibly seeing the writing on the wall of its soon demise before the general public did.
An ad blitz will be the only thing that, should Google decide they want mainstream devices, that will sway the average sheep away from the current line of rationale. I just don't see Google wanting a device that will be a top seller. The revenue outlay would be tremendous and totally unlike their usual marketing strategies of software and application/programs being the cash cow. Seeing Amazon work with its devices as revenue enhancers is a model nobody else outside of Apple seems to want to go for. The iPod was a cash cow more for iTunes than player sales. The iPhone brought in billions more in app sales. The iPad, continued that trend. With Google having its media platform available on many current manufacturers and users of its operating system it wouldn't really make sense, business wise, to spend big bucks on hardware just to become more prevalent in a device saturated market. Apple got in on the ground floor. Google chose to let others do the hardware and make a higher net on the software end.

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[xeene]

1. No wireless charging.
2. Lack of expandable storage.
3. No dust/water proofing.
4. Insufficient size batteries.
5. No advertising, shelf space in retail.

 

[popcenator]

1. No wireless charging.
2. Lack of expandable storage.
3. No dust/water proofing.
4. Insufficient size batteries.
5. No advertising, shelf space in retail.

1. Still a gimmick until I can charge while actually holding and using the device.
2. Onboard storage is plenty, so that's out the window.
3. This may be a valid point, but not enough to deter from purchasing unless your lifestyle requires the certification, which I bet the majority of users don't have that lifestyle.
4. The last two generations of Nexus devices have plenty of battery. They may not get two full days, but they get through the day pretty easily.
5. This I agree with.

They may prevent you from getting one, but the everyday user likely won't care as other devices have sold well without most of these features.

Sent from my Nexus 6P

 

[pc747]

1. Still a gimmick until I can charge while actually holding and using the device.
2. Onboard storage is plenty, so that's out the window.
3. This may be a valid point, but not enough to deter from purchasing unless your lifestyle requires the certification, which I bet the majority of users don't have that lifestyle.
4. The last two generations of Nexus devices have plenty of battery. They may not get two full days, but they get through the day pretty easily.
5. This I agree with.

They may prevent you from getting one, but the everyday user likely won't care as other devices have sold well without most of these features.

Sent from my Nexus 6P

Exactly, ie iPhones (well with the exception of the advertising part).

 

[xeene]

1. Still a gimmick until I can charge while actually holding and using the device.
2. Onboard storage is plenty, so that's out the window.
3. This may be a valid point, but not enough to deter from purchasing unless your lifestyle requires the certification, which I bet the majority of users don't have that lifestyle.
4. The last two generations of Nexus devices have plenty of battery. They may not get two full days, but they get through the day pretty easily.
5. This I agree with.

They may prevent you from getting one, but the everyday user likely won't care as other devices have sold well without most of these features.

Sent from my Nexus 6P

1. might be a gimmick to you but i have a wireless charger next to my bed that i can 1 handed remove from charger or put back on charger while half a sleep or what ever. i also have a wireless charger/dock in my car where again, i can single handed attach to, remove from charger with no hassle. it's called air dock, look it up. my charge ports are brand new, even though on occasion i've used wired charging if i need lots of juice in short time.
2. with 4k video 1 minute of video is 400mb, 20mpix photos are 10mb each. i have 160gb in my phone out of which about 90gb is full, thinking about upgrading to 230gb. how much storage do you have?
3. i'd rather have protection then pay for insurance, which is a waste of money.
4. my phone lasts me about 1/2 a day on a full charge and my phone would outlast any nexus device on the market. obviously i'm a more of a power user then most but this is the major flaw of most smartphones these days. they value aesthetics over function, i really hate thin phones. give me 5k battery and make it a millimeter thicker. i blame apple for this, iDiots and their skinny jeans.

 

[Jonny Kansas]

1. might be a gimmick to you but i have a wireless charger next to my bed that i can 1 handed remove from charger or put back on charger while half a sleep or what ever. i also have a wireless charger/dock in my car where again, i can single handed attach to, remove from charger with no hassle. it's called air dock, look it up. my charge ports are brand new, even though on occasion i've used wired charging if i need lots of juice in short time.
2. with 4k video 1 minute of video is 400mb, 20mpix photos are 10mb each. i have 160gb in my phone out of which about 90gb is full, thinking about upgrading to 230gb. how much storage do you have?
3. i'd rather have protection then pay for insurance, which is a waste of money.
4. my phone lasts me about 1/2 a day on a full charge and my phone would outlast any nexus device on the market. obviously i'm a more of a power user then most but this is the major flaw of most smartphones these days. they value aesthetics over function, i really hate thin phones. give me 5k battery and make it a millimeter thicker. i blame apple for this, iDiots and their skinny jeans.

The OP isn't asking what keeps YOU from getting a Nexus. It asks what do you think is keeping it from catching on with the general population.

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[popcenator]

1. might be a gimmick to you but i have a wireless charger next to my bed that i can 1 handed remove from charger or put back on charger while half a sleep or what ever. i also have a wireless charger/dock in my car where again, i can single handed attach to, remove from charger with no hassle. it's called air dock, look it up. my charge ports are brand new, even though on occasion i've used wired charging if i need lots of juice in short time.
2. with 4k video 1 minute of video is 400mb, 20mpix photos are 10mb each. i have 160gb in my phone out of which about 90gb is full, thinking about upgrading to 230gb. how much storage do you have?
3. i'd rather have protection then pay for insurance, which is a waste of money.
4. my phone lasts me about 1/2 a day on a full charge and my phone would outlast any nexus device on the market. obviously i'm a more of a power user then most but this is the major flaw of most smartphones these days. they value aesthetics over function, i really hate thin phones. give me 5k battery and make it a millimeter thicker. i blame apple for this, iDiots and their skinny jeans.

1. So your argument of why it's not a gimmick is providing a scenario in which most are sleeping anyway and isn't a typical scenario. I can plug my phone in and use it while it remains charging and I don't have to worry about where to put it back down, even at night in bed while half asleep, and again, it never stops charging. I've yet to have a charging port fail on me.
2. 4K video isn't a huge deal unless you have a device to view the video back in 4K, which most people don't. So you can record 4K video all you want, but really most would just be wasting space.
3. The only damage I've done to my phone is breaking the screen which a lot of manufacturers replace once for free, but I did kind of agree with you on this point anyway.
4. This isn't really an argument for why it's holding Nexus devices back since you pointed out that most smartphones suffer from these days as well, so not really a flaw of the Nexus line in particular. I use my 6P pretty heavily AND work in a warehouse with almost no signal in most areas and mine lasts me a day fairly easily. Especially as they iron out software issues, like connectivity.

 

[wcjeep]

The only way I charge is wireless charging. It's very rare I plug in for power. One handed to set on charger. One handed to grab and go. I know a few people that have wireless charger enabled phones that refuse to buy the base charger. They say it seems complicated. Depending on the wireless charging base it could take an extra moment to verify charging has started.

 

[Jonny Kansas]

The only way I charge is wireless charging. It's very rare I plug in for power. One handed to set on charger. One handed to grab and go. I know a few people that have wireless charger enabled phones that refuse to buy the base charger. They say it seems complicated. Depending on the wireless charging base it could take an extra moment to verify charging has started.

I don't think it's complicated, but I refused to pay extra for the accessories to wirelessly charge any device I've had that was capable of it.

To me, it's not worth the extra cost when I can just as easily use my phone while plugged in on the nightstand. Just my personal opinion.

If I buy a device that comes with a wireless charger, you can bet I'll use it daily, but it's definitely not a deciding factor for me.

USB Type-C is enough for me. No worrying about which way the plug is flipped in the dark.

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[Miller6386]

I think if someone can put just a ridiculous processor/ ROM in a Nexus I will jump on it... I want a device that reacts when I tap on something. I don't want to have to wait a couple seconds for the phone to open simple tasks... I know it is just a phone but if I tap on a "share" feature in gallery I want it to open the options now... Not in 3 seconds.... If we can have these phones playing games that my laptop struggles with then it should be able to do the simple things easily... Maybe my Note 4 is just getting tired but it does drive me nuts.

 

[pc747]

I don't think it's complicated, but I refused to pay extra for the accessories to wirelessly charge any device I've had that was capable of it.

To me, it's not worth the extra cost when I can just as easily use my phone while plugged in on the nightstand. Just my personal opinion.

If I buy a device that comes with a wireless charger, you can bet I'll use it daily, but it's definitely not a deciding factor for me.

USB Type-C is enough for me. No worrying about which way the plug is flipped in the dark.

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Agree, I'm glad wireless charging is an option but not for me. Actually the only wireless charger I would purchase would be the tylt as it charges while your phone is standing up.

Wireless charging is like Android/Samsung Pay, it just looks cool. At the end of the day just as grabbing my card out of my wallet does not hinder my day, plugging up my phone vs sitting it on top of a wireless charger (that is plugged into my phone charger) is more of being cool than being convenient.

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[pc747]

I think if someone can put just a ridiculous processor/ ROM in a Nexus I will jump on it... I want a device that reacts when I tap on something. I don't want to have to wait a couple seconds for the phone to open simple tasks... I know it is just a phone but if I tap on a "share" feature in gallery I want it to open the options now... Not in 3 seconds.... If we can have these phones playing games that my laptop struggles with then it should be able to do the simple things easily... Maybe my Note 4 is just getting tired but it does drive me nuts.

What phone do you have, because that is what you get now. I got that with my Nexus 6, the Nexus 6p (when I had it), and my note 5 (though janky at times).

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[Miller6386]

What phone do you have, because that is what you get now. I got that with my Nexus 6, the Nexus 6p (when I had it), and my note 5 (though janky at times).

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I have a Note 4. It is a little laggy in a few things that I try to do... Not all some some apps seem to open a little slow. I am holding out for the Note 6 to come out and see if it will do better.. If not I will look at a 6P or possibly S7.

 

[pc747]

I have a Note 4. It is a little laggy in a few things that I try to do... Not all some some apps seem to open a little slow. I am holding out for the Note 6 to come out and see if it will do better.. If not I will look at a 6P or possibly S7.

If you like the note 4 (other than lag) than note 6 may be your best bet. But if you are tired of twiz hit up a Nexus. Just know that updates will be slow with Samsung vs Google.

Wait you already know that .

I love my note 5 for a daily driver. I know that I can grab it and go. But I kept my Nexus 6 to be able to play with the latest from Google, and my Nexus 5 to play with the latest in Roms (which I have been too busy to mess with in awhile).



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[Miller6386]

Roms and root used to be important to me but now dependability is where it's at.

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