What's Causing the delay of the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon?

[sb1831]

Could we take the crap about throttling to another thread where it belongs? This thread had nothing to do with throttling until conspiracy theorists came along.

 

[SquireSCA]

Could we take the crap about throttling to another thread where it belongs? This thread had nothing to do with throttling until conspiracy theorists came along.

LOL. Wake up kid. It isn't a conspiracy when VZW put it into their policy and says they are gonna do it.

But yeah, if you want to put it in another thread, cool.

 

[guidot]

It doesn't need to be in this thread OR another thread. Its been beat to death. 20 times. Times 20.

Sent from my rooted, ROM'd, and Safestrapped XT862

 

[xkape]

I'm still hung up on the statistics thing. Everyone says Verizon (or, insert company x) doesn't care because we are 1%, less than 1 percent, etc... I find that to be incorrect. Do I have proof? No. I don't. But I will say this... There may be 500k registered users here (or whatever the number is), x thousand at xda and x thousand at roots and x thousand at the other lesser knows forums but... for every 1 registered user theres probably 1000 lurkers who never register. They read, they learn, they downlaod and from the frontside, are never seen or heard.

So, to say we are this small little group of people that no one gives a crap about is kind of like a pet peeve of mine and its downright irritating and insulting.

Let me give you an example... Moto Bionic.. there's a Cheesecake app.. let's you search Moto's servers for updates... So, someone finds a new one, someone roots it and we are off and running (repeat cycle). Do you really think Moto doesn't see us on the servers? Downloading from them? Id give my reasons for why I think that is but then thats speculation and when we go down that road, we never come back.

 

[xkape]

And while i'm thinking about it.... If you can only hardcore tether if routed ... If w are only one percent then why is Verizon capping the top 5 percent

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[SquireSCA]

And while i'm thinking about it.... If you can only hardcore tether if routed ... If w are only one percent then why is Verizon capping the top 5 percent

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Because it is easy to say "unlimited data" when phones don't do all that much. But when you have 4G, and a phone that is more like a laptop than a phone, and you can stream 20,000 songs from your Google Music account, and watch Netflix for hours a day, suddenly "unlimited" has a whole new scope than it used to have, and this is something that VZW and others want to capitalize on. So they charge us more, for less. It's the American way.

 

[OneTenderRebel]

I'm still hung up on the statistics thing. Everyone says Verizon (or, insert company x) doesn't care because we are 1%, less than 1 percent, etc... I find that to be incorrect. Do I have proof? No. I don't. But I will say this... There may be 500k registered users here (or whatever the number is), x thousand at xda and x thousand at roots and x thousand at the other lesser knows forums but... for every 1 registered user theres probably 1000 lurkers who never register. They read, they learn, they downlaod and from the frontside, are never seen or heard.

So, to say we are this small little group of people that no one gives a crap about is kind of like a pet peeve of mine and its downright irritating and insulting.

Let me give you an example... Moto Bionic.. there's a Cheesecake app.. let's you search Moto's servers for updates... So, someone finds a new one, someone roots it and we are off and running (repeat cycle). Do you really think Moto doesn't see us on the servers? Downloading from them? Id give my reasons for why I think that is but then thats speculation and when we go down that road, we never come back.

that's assuming every registered user roots, which is absolutely not the case, I bet you would be surprised how few out of the 200k+ users root here. Yes all of us frequent posters probably root but I would be willing to bet the number is far less than 50k.

 

[xkape]

I will bet you anything.. and i mean anything.. theres are more than 50k rooted users.. easy.. without question and guaranteed.You guys need to quit thinking we are smaller than we are.
I know of 1 ROM on one phone that has 5000 users and its not even Cyanogen. So you are telling me that between all the ROMS out there and all the phones Moto, Samsung, HTC, LG... and between all the carriers, Sprint, Verizon, ATT, and all the people that root to remove bloat but not install ROMS, and all the different forums that there arent 45,000 more?

I would put the number well into the 6 figures if not more.. and I think 7 figures would be reasonable to believe.


I think you underestimate the size of the lurker community.. and I also think you forget what makes the world go round (and makes the lurker community large)...sales! Referrals referrals referrals.. thats whats pounded into a salesmans head.. and a firend says get this rom and shows it off, well, he sold it for you and then on and on... but those people don't know the community.. nor do they care to. they just think their friends phone is cool, come in here, grab the essentials and bail... or just have their friend do it for them.

 

[OneTenderRebel]

I will bet you anything.. and i mean anything.. theres are more than 50k rooted users.. easy.. without question and guaranteed.You guys need to quit thinking we are smaller than we are.
I know of 1 ROM on one phone that has 5000 users and its not even Cyanogen. So you are telling me that between all the ROMS out there and all the phones Moto, Samsung, HTC, LG... and between all the carriers, Sprint, Verizon, ATT, and all the people that root to remove bloat but not install ROMS, and all the different forums that there arent 45,000 more?

I would put the number well into the 6 figures if not more.. and I think 7 figures would be reasonable to believe.

no I just meant this forum. But yes we are as small a group as people think. We still account for less than 1% even if the number is upwards of a million (which it's not). Rom download numbers are completely skewed because some people end up downloading the same rom multiple times.

 

[OneTenderRebel]

I should add a disclaimer, that doesn't mean we can't make our voices be heard collectively.

 

[Malvado]

Please stop discussion on throttling as this is not the thread for it. If it continues, I will be forced to lock this thread down. Thank you.

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[Tuktanuk]

lol @ how quickly things go OT. As for the delay... meh. It's verizon! When have they ever just released a phone when it was ready!? Since Verizon and the other carriers pretty much run the show; not even Google can get what they want for a phone. I've said it before and I'll say it again. the phone is released when I get the email from Verizon telling me so. Rumored release dates are just that; a rumor and should never be trusted.

 

[jp1m16]

One thing that i have to say is.... I was tired of not herringbone in on the new 4g in our area so i went and took a chance with rhe razr. I made a point to ask the rep that if i was unhappy with it how long do i have to return it. He said...you usually have
14 Days but for the holidays we are extending this till....jan 15th..
I sure hope it comez out by then..this razr has shut down on hits own just out of the blue and not turn back on..gets hot sometimes..and on and on..
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[jp1m16]

Ooopss. Forgot to add. Ive had the razr 8 days now. I love 4g.

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[SquireSCA]

I wish VZW would come out with an answer on this...

For years they mandate that the phones they sell come with a locked bootloader. Motorola recently announced that they would not ship any more encrypted bootloaders unless the carrier required it. VZW decided that phones like the Razr and others must continue to be locked, and the reasoning that they gave was "network security", "Data integrity", etc... This is a stance that they would not consider moving on.

And yet, the best feature about the Nexus is that it is unlocked. You can run ROM's, whatever you want on it pretty much. So doesn't that fly in the face of everything that they have been saying?

How can they continue to prevent people from unlocking the phones that WE PAID FOR, citing "network security", and then allow the Nexus on their network?

I really don't understand how they can take such a contradictory stance on this issue. Either unlocked phones on their network is some sort of potential security risk, or they aren't. Which is it?