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When Will the ThunderBolt Be Available for Purchase

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P.S. Thanks for officially banning stumbleflyx mods, that guy was seriously getting on everyone's nerves. It must have been some kind of bot spewing all those worthless comments or something, there's no way that was a real person, no one could be that annoying.

All it took was a PM. The Mods here get a lot of whining and garbage, but my experience with them has been great.


^^^^^ What he said. Ditto!!!!
 
You would think that the battery life issue (if it is true) would have been caught earlier on in testing... unless a recent software/firmware change caused it to degrade much more quickly than before. Unless that change was a heavy duty requirement (or too tightly intertwined with other changes), you would think it could be backed out and resolved after the fact and then pushed via a post-release OTA fix.

I would love to see what the user acceptance test requirements are for battery life on the phone (or any phone). The talk time/standby time stats phones usually come out with are bogus since that metric is essentially the same one that was used 10 years ago - nobody uses a smartphone JUST for talk and standby. There should be new metrics for battery life like; low use, moderate use, heavy use... and define them consistently across manufacturers.


I imagine the battery drain is not from LTE, but rather from the radio searching for an LTE connection.

This is my theory as well... I think the new firmware rumored to be coming will cut off LTE after X amount of time without an LTE signal. The same happens to your battery if you are in a low signal area on 3G.

In other news, my local VZW told me that the HTC rep was in last night and they are now shooting for mid-March. I picked up an Inspire to check out the new Sense. If the TB comes within 30, I'm good. Otherwise I guess I'll either stay with ATT or see if the Inc2 has dropped.
 
You would think that the battery life issue (if it is true) would have been caught earlier on in testing... unless a recent software/firmware change caused it to degrade much more quickly than before. Unless that change was a heavy duty requirement (or too tightly intertwined with other changes), you would think it could be backed out and resolved after the fact and then pushed via a post-release OTA fix.

I would love to see what the user acceptance test requirements are for battery life on the phone (or any phone). The talk time/standby time stats phones usually come out with are bogus since that metric is essentially the same one that was used 10 years ago - nobody uses a smartphone JUST for talk and standby. There should be new metrics for battery life like; low use, moderate use, heavy use... and define them consistently across manufacturers.


I imagine the battery drain is not from LTE, but rather from the radio searching for an LTE connection.

This is my theory as well... I think the new firmware rumored to be coming will cut off LTE after X amount of time without an LTE signal. The same happens to your battery if you are in a low signal area on 3G.

In other news, my local VZW told me that the HTC rep was in last night and they are now shooting for mid-March. I picked up an Inspire to check out the new Sense. If the TB comes within 30, I'm good. Otherwise I guess I'll either stay with ATT or see if the Inc2 has dropped.

Any thoughts on if you can shut down the "searching for a 4G signal"? Let's say you are six months away from 4G coverage... shut it off temporarily?
 
I imagine the battery drain is not from LTE, but rather from the radio searching for an LTE connection.

This is my theory as well... I think the new firmware rumored to be coming will cut off LTE after X amount of time without an LTE signal. The same happens to your battery if you are in a low signal area on 3G.

In other news, my local VZW told me that the HTC rep was in last night and they are now shooting for mid-March. I picked up an Inspire to check out the new Sense. If the TB comes within 30, I'm good. Otherwise I guess I'll either stay with ATT or see if the Inc2 has dropped.

Any thoughts on if you can shut down the "searching for a 4G signal"? Let's say you are six months away from 4G coverage... shut it off temporarily?

Very good question. My area doesn't have 4g yet either and wondering if shutting it off and not searching would conserve battery life. hmmm
 
I imagine the battery drain is not from LTE, but rather from the radio searching for an LTE connection.

This is my theory as well... I think the new firmware rumored to be coming will cut off LTE after X amount of time without an LTE signal. The same happens to your battery if you are in a low signal area on 3G.

In other news, my local VZW told me that the HTC rep was in last night and they are now shooting for mid-March. I picked up an Inspire to check out the new Sense. If the TB comes within 30, I'm good. Otherwise I guess I'll either stay with ATT or see if the Inc2 has dropped.

Any thoughts on if you can shut down the "searching for a 4G signal"? Let's say you are six months away from 4G coverage... shut it off temporarily?

The EVO has a widget that allows you to toggle 4G the same way you toggle wireless and bluetooth. I imagine the TB will have the same
 
Most likely there will be some unemployed execs after this fiasco. Someone definately dropped the ball on the development and release of this device.
 
Hmmmm, we have the HTC Shift, and soon the Merge, maybe the pulled the adds to rename the TB to the HTC U TURN?

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I don't know how you guys feel but I would jump out and pull my parachute on this one. It was a mistake to turn this phone into a 4G capable device and I think they just found that out.

My suggestion is to pull out wait for release and the subsequent end user experiences then go back and purchase it if you feel confident. Where there's smoke there's fire and I'm thinking they have a nightmare on their hand.

Just my $2.02

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I imagine the battery drain is not from LTE, but rather from the radio searching for an LTE connection.

This is not at all how 4g is on the evo. You can toggle the 4g antenna but it will not actively scan for a signal unless you tell it to. They did this in an update quite some time ago to help conserve battery. So i can't imagine they would repeat the exact mistake on the TB.
 
As long as we have the ability to turn off the LTE radio, this is not a major issue to me. I should have 4G this year, but I was never planning to keep the 4G connected all the time. I'm sure battery life improvements will be pushed out after release.

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