Sarge, you make him sound ancient. He's only 14 years older than me :-/ My brother was in 1st Americal Division Chu Lai on the Nung River (apocalypse now country). He was a midic with an alphabet agency WHAM team (Win Hearts And Minds) they did deep penetrations similar to LRRPS but did it to civilians so they could brainwash them against charlie by vaccinating their kids, treating their old people, and vanishing into the night. We can call him MasterSargentTJ I guess. He's the same age as the Sargent Major. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they knew each other being 1st Americal Divion and 101st AB and both deep in the $h|t and about the same age (and I'm betting, in those units, at that time, within a 150 mile radius of each other the whole time they were incountry. Now captain crypto and I are cold warriors. Different time entirely, definitely a WAR if you were in it, but a war of data if you will. Information, and well, encryption.
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Sarge, you make him sound ancient. He's only 14 years older than me :-/ My brother was in 1st Americal Division Chu Lai on the Nung River (apocalypse now country). He was a midic with an alphabet agency WHAM team (Win Hearts And Minds) they did deep penetrations similar to LRRPS but did it to civilians so they could brainwash them against charlie by vaccinating their kids, treating their old people, and vanishing into the night. We can call him MasterSargentTJ I guess. He's the same age as the Sargent Major. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they knew each other being 1st Americal Divion and 101st AB and both deep in the $h|t and about the same age (and I'm betting, in those units, at that time, within a 150 mile radius of each other the whole time they were incountry. Now captain crypto and I are cold warriors. Different time entirely, definitely a WAR if you were in it, but a war of data if you will. Information, and well, encryption.
For whatever reason, Punit Soni doesn't strike me as the type of person who would allow that to happen. He, unlike the Moto we are used to, actually doesn't seem to have a vendetta out against rooting, custom ROMs, or even the idea of people installing leaks. At this point, I get the impression that he doesn't blame us in the least for installing ICS ahead of time. And he strikes me as a dev friendly guy.
You and I have been on the exct same wavelength for several days now. I couldn't agree more, as a matter of fact, I'd go so far as to say he's hacker friendly as long as we're hacking stuff that rightfully belongs to us already, like bionic ICS.
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I almost wonder if people admitting to running leaked OSes actually strengthens our case. Mr. Soni seems to take pride in software, he probably finds it to be a damn shame that we were ever stuck on such a bad OS that we resorted to running untested builds. And I still get the feeling that once ICS has been pushed, he is going to make us a part of the Jellybean fun. It's probably going to be a nice, unified build for the Bionic/RAZR/D4 family of devices. With .246 pretty much locked in as the official, they are probably already working on it. And i'd be willing to bet that as a result of being on a higher level ICS build first, we might be the first to get Jellybean. They will likely hold off on development for the other devices until their bugfixes are pushed. Most of this is just speculation based on hope, but Mr. Soni seems like he could really deliver. And I think the Google portion of Moogle supports him, it makes their OS look good.
The security was beefed up to keep people from going back to Gingerbread, most likely. They don't WANT us going back to Gingerbread, so that's not going to revert. And for the millionth time i've said it in this thread, .246 is .246 - nothing magical happens to the .zip file when they move it to the production server and start pushing it. It's the same file we have right now.
EDIT: By the way, if you want to prove this when the OTA comes out, download it and compare the MD5 sum with the leak. And then check the build date in System->About Phone - they will be the same in the leak and in the official. In order to change things, it would need to be recompiled. The build date would change and the MD5 sum would be different.
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Untested builds huh......
We grab these leaks off the cheesecake servers the minute they pop up sometimes. I'd venture to say that in some cases, we begin messing with them before the Verizon testers do. If that's not untested, nothing is. They sure the hell ARE tested once we get done with 'em, though. Until we came up with a way to check security versions, one of us would take the risk to install a new leak and FXZ back to .905 and see if it bricked our phone or not.
We lucked out through 6.7.232; 6.7.235 and above were a different story.
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But yep, I agree 100%! 
I hope people wouldn't starting to take this stuff for granted quite yet!
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Moot (adjective) = debatable, theoretical.
Moot (noun) = discussion, meeting.
Sarge's use of the word moot is correct in this context. Wireless discussion. What that has to do with the original topic is moot.
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I believe MOOT was chosen as a derivation of WOOT, one meaning of which is We Owned the Other Team. In this context it probably refers to the Moto vs VZW "negotiations" and means Motorola Owned the Other Team.
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