Wireless Moot

[SamuriHL]

Phone, i'm gonna go all out. Processor? In my case, i'm running a 6 year old Core 2 Duo anyways, which does ALL I need it to. Anything would be an upgrade for me. I have always built my PC with a) budget parts; or b) last year's "big thing". For what you do, Intel is probably best; although you could probably build one hell of a cluster with AMD stuff for the same price. I just know i'd NEVER pay over $300 for a processor alone. I simply don't make that kind of $$$ and the extra money I do have to throw around, I throw at mobile hardware.

But see, therein lies the conversation. Someone asked about AMD getting into the mobile game. Given their track record, you'd end up with mid-range phones at best, low end cheap phones being most likely. AMD is not going to challenge ANYONE for the high end smartphone or tablet market. Even with all of Intel's resources it's going to be a challenge for them. AMD simply wouldn't have a prayer in hell in this market space. Right now Intel has put out a mid-range phone with Moto in the RAZR i. As I said before, this is simply to get a level set on where the issues are that need to be improved so they can attack the high end with a quad core next year. You've got to think they've got tablet ambitions, as well, and not just that Windows 8 stuff. AMD is so far out of their league in this space it'd be pointless. Even TI, a company with YEARS of experience in this space, has given up. I don't care what it costs, AMD ain't gonna be on my phone.

 

[Dave12308]

The danger in this case and the seed of AMD's extinction is that the general populace is moving generally away from the standard desktop computer. Mobile technology - smartphones, tablets and similar ilk these days are getting more and more common. Not to say desktops will go away by any means - but that market is getting less important and AMD will have to keep fighting Intel for a much smaller piece of the pie.

Potentially we haven't seen the end of LapDock style ideas as well. ASUS Transformer type things could also become viable middle ground where someone likes having a keyboard/mouse like a desktop with the portability of a Tablet.

Computing as we know it is changing from the model we have seen so dominant for the last 30 years.

I agree, mobile is becoming more and more important. But if Intel wants to remain competitive, they need to come out with something a whole lot better than the Atom. If they are going to use an x86 core, they should be looking at ULV versions of the Core i3 - but with a better GPU.

 

[Captain Crypto]

Oh boy. You should really truly read my FAQ. FXZ has nothing to do with OTA. And leak is no different than OTA except for the fact that one is officially released and the other isn't.

SON OF A

The answer is right there, in your FAQ, that same FAQ you've been talking about over the past 1,500+ posts.

"Q: If I update to 235/238/242/244, how do I get back on the OTA path?
A: I'm sorry, you failed this test! You can't is the simple answer. Those versions have security that disallow going back to 905 which is required to take the OTA. You may be able to use the HoB to move to a new build and possibly even the OTA build when it's released, but, that is not guaranteed"

I certainly did fail the test. I was confused because I'm reading too many things from too many people. I should have just paid attention to the source. Admittedly I'm reading every post but I'm not paying attention as much as I should be. I think I shall wait for the OTA after all. Too much other crap going on that's distracting me.

 

[BroidDrionic]

Well i got the most powerful bionic in the community look at these scores xD

Yeah but what about stability? Furthermore, battery life!

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[SnydersWeb]

I agree, mobile is becoming more and more important. But if Intel wants to remain competitive, they need to come out with something a whole lot better than the Atom. If they are going to use an x86 core, they should be looking at ULV versions of the Core i3 - but with a better GPU.

Best way to learn how to swim is to jump into the deep end. They did w/this Moto thing. They had better darn well learn how to swim or they'll drown not only themselves but Motorola - and Motorola in the past has demonstrated flexibility with going to targa chips and others.

 

[Bfp]

I've got a FX4100 amd and im happy with it with 8gb of Gskill sniper series ram, im thinking about installing Banana split as soon as the OTA come out.

 

[Dave12308]

But see, therein lies the conversation. Someone asked about AMD getting into the mobile game. Given their track record, you'd end up with mid-range phones at best, low end cheap phones being most likely. AMD is not going to challenge ANYONE for the high end smartphone or tablet market. Even with all of Intel's resources it's going to be a challenge for them. AMD simply wouldn't have a prayer in hell in this market space. Right now Intel has put out a mid-range phone with Moto in the RAZR i. As I said before, this is simply to get a level set on where the issues are that need to be improved so they can attack the high end with a quad core next year. You've got to think they've got tablet ambitions, as well, and not just that Windows 8 stuff. AMD is so far out of their league in this space it'd be pointless. Even TI, a company with YEARS of experience in this space, has given up. I don't care what it costs, AMD ain't gonna be on my phone.

Honestly, i'd have to see it in action. I've had netbooks based on the Atom, and netbooks based on the AMD Fusion stuff (E-series). Unless the Atom has gotten a HELL of a lot better, the Fusion stuff beats it. I'm honestly still not convinced that x86 is the way to go for mobile, though. I'd be more encouraged if Intel were developing a Cortex A15 based SoC.

 

[SamuriHL]

SON OF A

The answer is right there, in your FAQ, that same FAQ you've been talking about over the past 1,500+ posts.

"Q: If I update to 235/238/242/244, how do I get back on the OTA path?
A: I'm sorry, you failed this test! You can't is the simple answer. Those versions have security that disallow going back to 905 which is required to take the OTA. You may be able to use the HoB to move to a new build and possibly even the OTA build when it's released, but, that is not guaranteed"

I certainly did fail the test. I was confused because I'm reading too many things from too many people. I should have just paid attention to the source. Admittedly I'm reading every post but I'm not paying attention as much as I should be. I think I shall wait for the OTA after all. Too much other crap going on that's distracting me.

See, Dave? You're not winning. MUAHAHAHAH.

Yes, I wrote the faq on a bet that people would read it. I said they would ignore it...and a large majority of people who ask me questions that are answered in the faq have...even after I point out that they should in fact read it. Dave there says that the faq would solve all my problems and I'd never have to repeat myself again if I just put it one concise place. Gonna go with....not so much. ROFLMAO!

 

[SamuriHL]

Honestly, i'd have to see it in action. I've had netbooks based on the Atom, and netbooks based on the AMD Fusion stuff (E-series). Unless the Atom has gotten a HELL of a lot better, the Fusion stuff beats it. I'm honestly still not convinced that x86 is the way to go for mobile, though. I'd be more encouraged if Intel were developing a Cortex A15 based SoC.

I reserve judgement until Intel tells us "we have the best Android chipset available." Which should be next year when they play in the quad core space. Until then, it's just a game of watching.

 

[welsalex]

Nothing today tomorrow is the big day

I know I know. Any sort of timeframe for tomorrow for the incoming moot?

 

[Dave12308]

See, Dave? You're not winning. MUAHAHAHAH.

Yes, I wrote the faq on a bet that people would read it. I said they would ignore it...and a large majority of people who ask me questions that are answered in the faq have...even after I point out that they should in fact read it. Dave there says that the faq would solve all my problems and I'd never have to repeat myself again if I just put it one concise place. Gonna go with....not so much. ROFLMAO!

I said you would not have to repeat the same instructions over and over. Never said you wouldn't have to repeat "Read my FAQ" over and over *LOL* But isn't simply saying "Refer to my FAQ" much easier than typing the same set of instructions 32,211,119 times each time a new file leaks? Once people realize it's there, they will refer to it. You just need to have it in your signature in a 20 point bold red font *LOL*

 

[Captain Crypto]

See, Dave? You're not winning. MUAHAHAHAH.

Yes, I wrote the faq on a bet that people would read it. I said they would ignore it...and a large majority of people who ask me questions that are answered in the faq have...even after I point out that they should in fact read it. Dave there says that the faq would solve all my problems and I'd never have to repeat myself again if I just put it one concise place. Gonna go with....not so much. ROFLMAO!

What pisses me off is that I DID read your FAQ when you first published it. BAH. I'm starting up my new company and I'm consumed by it. I'm all over the place. Best to not treat my Bionic like my D1 and just let it be til the OTA...

 

[Dave12308]

I reserve judgement until Intel tells us "we have the best Android chipset available." Which should be next year when they play in the quad core space. Until then, it's just a game of watching.

*LOL* I reserve my judgement until I SEE that they "have the best Android chipset available". Intel claimed that the P4 was the best thing since sliced bread, and clock for clock it was slower than a P3. If Moto switches to Intel, we are in for a long wait for apps to become compatible, though. An x86 isn't going to execute native ARM code, so most of my games probably will not work for the first year or so.

 

[dethzero]

SON OF A

The answer is right there, in your FAQ, that same FAQ you've been talking about over the past 1,500+ posts.

"Q: If I update to 235/238/242/244, how do I get back on the OTA path?
A: I'm sorry, you failed this test! You can't is the simple answer. Those versions have security that disallow going back to 905 which is required to take the OTA. You may be able to use the HoB to move to a new build and possibly even the OTA build when it's released, but, that is not guaranteed"

I certainly did fail the test. I was confused because I'm reading too many things from too many people. I should have just paid attention to the source. Admittedly I'm reading every post but I'm not paying attention as much as I should be. I think I shall wait for the OTA after all. Too much other crap going on that's distracting me.

So far the .246 has been rock stable. I'm not liking how they changed the mail app though. I used to click the mail app and then click which email box I've setup. Now it just defaults to last used. It may be just needing some adjustment. 2 personal emails, 1 work exchange and 1 business email and shifting between folders on the corner sucks =P Thats my only complaint so far. Everything else runs like a champ. Also it looks like my phone is now clocked at 1.2ghz =D

 

[SamuriHL]

I said you would not have to repeat the same instructions over and over. Never said you wouldn't have to repeat "Read my FAQ" over and over *LOL* But isn't simply saying "Refer to my FAQ" much easier than typing the same set of instructions 32,211,119 times each time a new file leaks? Once people realize it's there, they will refer to it. You just need to have it in your signature in a 20 point bold red font *LOL*

I have been saying read my faq over and over again. People (not you, captain crypto) have ignored it or said "I did, couldn't find what *I'm* looking for" which is pretty much what I expect. See, this isn't my first rodeo. I've been dealing with forums and helping people for a *VERY* long time. If you think this Bionic phone stuff is hard, you should try dealing with AACS, BD+, Cinavia, crappy PC drives that give read errors constantly, and an entitlement attitude that since "I bought your program you owe it to me to fix every single possible problem I may have even if it's not related to the software I purchased." You know how many FAQ's I've written for SlySoft? I love the one that says "How to ask for help BEFORE posting". "It doesn't work." Love it.

What pisses me off is that I DID read your FAQ when you first published it. BAH. I'm starting up my new company and I'm consumed by it. I'm all over the place. Best to not treat my Bionic like my D1 and just let it be til the OTA...

To be fair, I did say I would update it as needed. HEHEHEHE.