246 update on QA server now.

[josh1980]

This Bionic forum needs an IRC channel. LOL.

 

[avlambo21]

That doesn't mean really much of anything significant if he liked 15 other posts from people supporting him.

not saying its proof, just saying if it does happen and thats his sneaky way of confirming that would be epic. im HOPING it happens, but not expecting it.

 

[welsalex]

its why i think next week... and something Mr. Soni +1 on G+ that stated something about it releasing next week as it was Q4. obviously thats not confirmation but, its still a bit sneaky if it was. haha

EDIT: here is the picture: View attachment 56263

(https://plus.google.com/110255434818594034987/posts/6sNpTMyKkfm)

Notice le perfectly drawn arrow.

 

[Lodmot]

This Bionic forum needs an IRC channel. LOL.

LOL!!!!
Dude, I was actually looking for an IRC here! xDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe we could like exchange info on AIM or something and make a chat conference thing? xD

 

[bombbreaker]

If you think about it, why Cant Motorola come up with a simple program to hook your Bionic up to a home computer via USB and simply update the phone that way? That would take Verizon out of the picture right?

Samsung did this with a program called Kies

 

[avlambo21]

Notice le perfectly drawn arrow.

hey dont make fun of my line... its special lol

Samsung did this with a program called Kies

oh god please dont, Kies is terrible

.... Even with an unlocked bootloader you're still at the whims of VZW to provide updates.....

well yes and no, if its an unlocked bootloader you could download a true ROM and never have to deal with "official" OTA, but with the ROM updates (which are much more consistent)

 

[wakeboredb]

I couldn't agree more. The carrier is, by definition, the provider of the means to access services on the network. Using this definition, the carrier is NOT the device and software provider. The carriers' networks should be "device agnostic".

I agree with your statement, but the problem then becomes device troubleshooting. If I were VZW, and was telling the manufacturer that they can put any build on their phone, my next statement would be to tell them that they have to be the one to provide device technical support. This is where bad customer service would take a new form. We would then have the manufacturer tell us "There appears to be nothing wrong with your phone. The problem is on the service end and you'll have to contact VZW". Then you'll call VZW and they'll tell you "Our network is working great in your area. There must be a problem with your phone hardware or software. You'll have to contact the manufacturer."

At this point you'll toss your phone into the deep end of the toilet and go back to the old 'two cans connected with a string' method of communication. I understand technical support for this method is relatively straight forward.

 

[hadeshorn9]

I couldn't agree more. The carrier is, by definition, the provider of the means to access services on the network. Using this definition, the carrier is NOT the device and software provider. The carriers' networks should be "device agnostic".

Ah yes and here we have the net neutrality conundrum! Talk about a clear violation. Look at the back lash the facetime nightmare caused ATT

 

[SamuriHL]

Ah yes and here we have the net neutrality conundrum! Talk about a clear violation. Look at the back lash the facetime nightmare caused ATT

It doesn't (currently) apply to wireless carriers. That will hopefully change soon.

 

[NoClue48]

I agree with your statement, but the problem then becomes device troubleshooting. If I were VZW, and was telling the manufacturer that they can put any build on their phone, my next statement would be to tell them that they have to be the one to provide device technical support. This is where bad customer service would take a new form. We would then have the manufacturer tell us "There appears to be nothing wrong with your phone. The problem is on the service end and you'll have to contact VZW". Then you'll call VZW and they'll tell you "Our network is working great in your area. There must be a problem with your phone hardware or software. You'll have to contact the manufacturer."

At this point you'll toss your phone into the deep end of the toilet and go back to the old 'two cans connected with a string' method of communication. I understand technical support for this method is relatively straight forward.

Well, I'm not saying that the customer service model doesn't need to change and I'm sure the resultant model will be unrecognizable from what is in place today.

 

[hadeshorn9]

It doesn't (currently) apply to wireless carriers. That will hopefully change soon.

Indeed, I hate how the lobbiest groups have made it worse for the consumers. FCC don't fail us now! OH wait! /facepalm :blink:

 

[NoClue48]

Ah yes and here we have the net neutrality conundrum! Talk about a clear violation. Look at the back lash the facetime nightmare caused ATT

Yeah, :blush: I've always been a bit of a rebel and libertarian...

 

[NoClue48]

Indeed, I hate how the lobbiest groups have made it worse for the consumers. FCC don't fail us now! OH wait! /facepalm :blink:

And since you brought the FCC into this, I wonder where they are in the "rigid control" tactics of VZW and, to a lesser degree, all the other carriers in this arena?

 

[hadeshorn9]

And since you brought the FCC into this, I wonder where they are in the "rigid control" tactics of VZW and, to a lesser degree, all the other carriers in this arena?

snicker! rigid controls my arse! Backed down from comcast did they not! bought and paid for is the term I am looking for. And to try and come back to topic...
Where's my OTA already! sigh

 

[NoClue48]

snicker! rigid controls my arse! Backed down from comcast did they not! bought and paid for is the term I am looking for. And to try and come back to topic...
Where's my OTA already! sigh

Yes, and where is mine?!?! :angry:

We'll leave the philosophical discussions for another time...