Wug, you're being VERY disingenuous about Mac users. To classify them as all "computer noobs" and technically inept could not be any farther off base if you tried. In fact, many of THE most technically capable people I know are partial to Mac. By far. You're letting your blind hatred of Apple taint your vision.
But I digress. This is bordering on branching into a pissing contest and I would really like for it to come back on track now. And I will say this, I HIGHLY recommend the comments and implications about the intelligence of Apple users stop now. I am quite serious about that.
And yes, I use Apple, and Windows, and Android.
Ok, sorry that's fair. Like I said... I have friends with macs that are very skilled. But you cannot argue that more Grandmas own macs vs. own pc's, that speaks for itself. And they are specifically targeted towards the less technically inclined user... that is the truth. Straight up.
Making statements regarding weather or not there user base is actually smart or not... is another story. I am not suggesting that all mac users are dumb, but I am suggesting that Apple actively seeks out noobs in a matter that no other computer does, and because of this, I believe that there marketing strategy has been effective and they have relatively more newbs than any other computer company in existence. Thats all. They might have comparably the same amount of smart people... but overall, they undeniably have tapped into the noob market in a fashion that no other company has ever even come close to doing. More power to them... newb = more money. More money for tech support, easily convinced to upgrade and buy software, basically the ideal customer in their book. But for people like me who gets called all the time to fix peoples computers... my frustration with the average mac user just gets worse everyday.
Sorry again... and to be clear.. I am sure that there are some bright people out there who own macs... I never said there weren't. If you are smart and own a mac... then you should be offended by me calling the majority of mac users noobs... because you aren't a noob... so who cares what I say? That's my stance on this. I don't mean to derail this conversation or cause a disagreement over something this trivial, but I can't pretend like there aren't more noobs on the mac platform. That is just FACT and if you don't think so then you are in denial.
Back to my original statement. How many grandma's do you know who own a PC? There is a reason for this... it's because companies specifically target their customer base. I am working towards my MBA right now... I have taken a lot of marketing classes. I don't think that its some weird trend that Mac gets more noob users... it happens because they want it to. It is a specific tactic on their part. They have been actively seeking these customers from the very beginning. Mac is ALL ABOUT catering to noobs, that is their entire business platform in a nutshell... sorry I should add to that. There business platform is more like this:
We aim on bringing innovative technology to the masses by simplifying everything so that anyone can enjoy it.
^^ If you think there is a problem with this statement then you are silly. I think that this is a very good goal. But I don't need to be catered to in this fashion. I don't care for their approach and I don't want to be apart of their whole scheme. I am not saying that it is bad, or makes people less smart. Buy whatever computer you want... I don't care. But if you buy macs... please don't try and pretend like there aren't more noobs in your community than others... PLEASE!!!! Because you know for sure that is completely false. It is, and you know it to be true. People who try and argue the opposite are just being naive to the fact that apple actively seeks out their customer base. Don't take my comments as an offense against your decision to use a mac... just ignore it if its not relevant to you. What difference does it make if I call Mac noobs, mac noobs? They are....? If you called some people PC noobs.... I wouldn't care... or get upset or offended. Whats the big deal..? Seriously?
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Wug ill just answer your posts here. When I said android fanboys are arrogant and obnoxious I was speaking in general. However after reading a couple of your posts, yes, you are included in that (and I would think that you know by now I have no issue speaking to people directly if I have an issue with them). You're passing off pure opinion and conjecture as fact and yes that's obnoxious and arrogant. Ill say it again, you and any other android user are not smarter than the average iphone user. To put it bluntly, get over yourself.
More grandmas own pcs? More noobs own macs? Where are you getting these ridiculous and baseless "facts"? Its honestly hilarious (and a little sad) that you think there are more noobs or morons in the mac community then android. Again, no base, pure opinion and pure foolish.
Great you are working toward an mba. Guess what? I have a bachelors in biology and a masters in infosec. And the last thing I would say is I'm smarter then an entire group of people because of my phone choice. Or the choice that I made means I'm in the smarter group. Yes, what your saying is arrogant, extremely obnoxious and honestly its making you look ignorant.
You and I have had some good debates and I've told you countless times I think your a smart mature guy. You're definitely smart, the mature part I'm beginning to rethink after your rants. Trust me, there are tons of ppl in the apple community who are far smarter then you or I. And vice versa. Don't say things that make no sense and just make you look like a silly fanboy.
I don't know where or why the foolish rumor started that android users all do this extensive research and are more in the know then any smartphone user. In a word that belief is dumb.
Oh and in case you think I was throwing subliminals here it is again: your statements are extremely obnoxious and arrogant and you look like the uneducated fanboys that you seem to think apple users are.
I'm not going to argue with you about this, bc there is no point. I've had plenty of arguments with fanboys on this forum and have no interest in starting a pissing contest with you. Just as a reminder though, wug, you are not any smarter then the avg apple user, as much as you want to pat yourself on the back and think you are. JMO.
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First off... Wow. You seem very intent on making a grand statement about me. Umm... ok, sorry you find me so obnoxious. I would say the same about you until you recently changed your posting habits. You have honestly fit the description of that word more than anyone I have ever dealt with on a forum.... but then you stopped completely. Are you mad that I called you out on the way you posted...? I am assuming that is where your frustration must be coming from... because its rather immense if its just stemming from some apple talk. I am sorry if I made you angry. Or if you think I am arrogant because of it. I am also sorry that you interpret my biased comments as me being arrogant.
I will agree with you about one thing though... when it comes to the mac talk... I have a tendency to be extra biased... and if you read back though this thread.. I think you will see that I clearly stated that. But right now, I think you are now jumping on me in a very over the top and extremely offensive way. You would think I screwed your girlfriend or something... You really should relax sir.
Sorry that you find me so offensive and apparently ignorant too.
Well... to be clear... I never stated that I was smarter than all apple people, nor was I smarter because I own an android. I said that I think that apple has more noobs.. based on my opinion and experience... you can say that is false... sure, it probably is.
And to be clear again, I referenced the fact that I was studying towards an MBA purely to justify that I had some marketing background for my reasoning... but I guess that could be interpreted as arrogant... so sorry about that one.
Like I said... my apple remarks are usually biased.. and I make fun of them a lot. But many people on this forum and others can see through that and are well aware that I am just picking fun and know that I actually respect their products and software. I think the OP is aware of that as well. So whatever arrogant or obnoxious comments you think that I have made... I guess I am sorry... but I don't understand why you have decided to turn this into a personal battle.. or to decide that now is the time you want to tell me I am obnoxious...?
Either way... cool stuff on the biology. I am working towards a degree in Biomedical Materials Engineering. I really find biology quite interesting, I am sure you learned a lot masters level. What are you doing with a bio masters spending time yelling at me on a droid forum? lol?
Edit: I realized you said you had a bachelors in biology & a master in infosec. Whats infosec?
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