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Apparent GPS Failure
- Thread starter Narsil
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After returning to Winter Haven last night from Orlando, where GPS worked perfectly, it continued to work ok with 10 sat seen and used. It continued to be ok till this afternoon. Just for the heck of it I powered the Droid off. After restarting, the droid has found no satellites after several hours. I am sure with all the data presented in all of our posts the people at Verizon could make a diagnosis, and even better fix it!
Altel tel number and account, in polk county fl.
Altel tel number and account, in polk county fl.
spalding12
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spalding12
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spalding12
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crankygypsy
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this is incorrect information... well, not entirely correct, actually.
yes, you have a sprint number ...a sprint number THAT WAS TRANSFERRED TO AN ALLTEL ACCOUNT before becoming a Verizon account.
there is nothing magical about a group of numbers "being" Alltel numbers ...it's just that the Alltel numbers coincide with the Alltel PRL. when you became an Alltel customer, you got the whole CDMA "makeover" (so to speak). that would explain why you are having the same problem as the Alltel people.
crankygypsy
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as for a Verizon plans with an Alltel number:
my guess (it's only a guess) is, that unless you started fresh and paid an activation fee (to have your number programmed), then the likelihood of getting a Verizon-based PRL is slim. imagine how much easier it is to add the few bought-out PRLs to the network/system instead of re-programming each Alltel account one at a time with their PRL.
my point is, it doesn't matter what your plan is - unless your account got reprogrammed instead of absorbed, it will retain it's carrier's PRL. i can go in any day and update my account via the web to any Verizon plan i want, but this will not change the PRL in any way.
my guess (it's only a guess) is, that unless you started fresh and paid an activation fee (to have your number programmed), then the likelihood of getting a Verizon-based PRL is slim. imagine how much easier it is to add the few bought-out PRLs to the network/system instead of re-programming each Alltel account one at a time with their PRL.
my point is, it doesn't matter what your plan is - unless your account got reprogrammed instead of absorbed, it will retain it's carrier's PRL. i can go in any day and update my account via the web to any Verizon plan i want, but this will not change the PRL in any way.
spalding12
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alright... then
in YOUR estimation.....
how long will this "FIX" take?
and.... do you really think that the "supposed" 12/11 FIRMWARE UPDATE will have ANYTHING to do with the GPS problem... since:
1. it has nothing to do with the droid, itself
2. doesn't really affect a large % of verizon droid owners
I have had my Droid since Nov 12th. I have used Google Nav a number of times with success. Today I turned on the GPS and noticed that Google Maps was showing my location to be all blue. I started zooming out and it seems to have my location off the East Coast of Delaware- way out in the ocean. I am really hoping this is a Google server bug - I live in northern NJ (paramus area). I tried downloading Google Maps again, turning on and off GPS, taking out battery. Nothing seems to be working. I downloaded GPS test & my droid is seeing several satellites. I have to try poking in the latitude & longitude tomorrow to see where on the map it puts me. Navigator was working fine yesterday in central NJ. Oh well enough tinkering for today.
JerrytheGreat
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spalding12
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ah, touché, my friend..... touché
crankygypsy
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frankly, i doubt this will have anything at all to do with Droid OTA for those very reasons. if it turns out to be a PRL issue, then the accounts are going to need reprogrammed - not the phone since all phones sync that info on activation. this has got to be something that Verizon did not expect and now they have to figure out a way to make it work ...and do it economically and efficiently. i'm sure this is a big pain in the butt for them. a few have already tried to have the good PRL pushed to their phones - unsuccessfully.
i was thinking about it. they probably left everyone with their old PRLs so that they would continue to have the same (possibly better) service as they had prior to the absorbtion. imagine if you lived next to an alltel tower and they updated you to a PRL that selected a VZW tower 5-10 miles further away first. that was a safe bet to avoid customer reception complaints ...and then THIS happened. whoops.
again, this is all speculation on my part - i'm just trying to brainstorm how this mess happened in the first place with the info we've been able to find out together ...giving them the benefit of the doubt.
if the problem is PRL-related, they are going to have to reprogram the system to do away with the Alltel PRL. that would mean updating a countless number of accounts. and this will not be as easy of an endeavor like the 12/11 OTA which is just set it and forget it. they are going to have to change the most basic functions of the network: finding, prioritizing, and connecting to towers.
spalding12
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let me ask you something more basic:
since verizon now OWNS the ALLTEL towers, as well.... why can't they reprogram THEM to be just like the VERIZON ones.... allowing agps use from EITHER tower?
wouldn't THAT be EASIER and make MUCH MORE SENSE?
of course, my knowledge of this subject is ZERO... i admit
but.....
couldn't they attack the problem THIS way?
since verizon now OWNS the ALLTEL towers, as well.... why can't they reprogram THEM to be just like the VERIZON ones.... allowing agps use from EITHER tower?
wouldn't THAT be EASIER and make MUCH MORE SENSE?
of course, my knowledge of this subject is ZERO... i admit
but.....
couldn't they attack the problem THIS way?
I turned my droid off last night & went to sleep. I fired it up this morning & my gps locked on right away. & navigator worked fine. I am chalking this one up to atmospheric anomalies. I did notice when I hit the my location button the map screen first jumped to my neighboring town. (Probably the closest tower) then scrolled over to my real location. I wonder if towers & the satellites we not playing nice last night.
spalding12
Member
all of a sudden
the gps is working
not sure why
not sure for how long
but.....
just around my house.... it's working
WOW !!!!!!!
the gps is working
not sure why
not sure for how long
but.....
just around my house.... it's working
WOW !!!!!!!