eWeek's top 10 reasons Android can't touch iOS

[czerdrill]

Now this article seems like its not even serious, but just in case it is here are my thoughts.

I agree with you on 7 things, but here are my thoughts on the other 3

6) as much as froyo did improve function and responsiveness, it still doesn't really come close to iOS. i've never seen lag ever on any iOs device, and that's pretty impressive. as someone else mentioned, i've never not seen lag on an android device

7) i think he was talking about the software and not the hardware, and i agree with him there. software fragmentation is probably what causes the lag, and the unresponsiveness because there's a million ways to do the same thing. the tons of home launchers on the market are a testament to that. my launcher would lag to the point where i wanted to throw it against the wall, but once i got launcherpro it reduced greatly.

9) saying "not everyone uses iTunes" really doesn't mean much. it's like saying "not everyone drinks water" (hahaa extreme example) but my point is i believe its around 200M people who use itunes...so to say not everyone uses it doesn't mean that a HUUUUUUUGE number of people don't use it. i'm sure more than half (probably close to 80-90%) of the people on this forum have used or still use itunes still. and itunes is not just about syncing music, people use it to download tv shows and movies and android has nothing like that to compare

 

[kodiak799]

If his article just said "I personally think iOS 4 is just better and that's that", then that would be stating an opinion, and he is entitled to that. However he was stating reasons as if they were facts and you CAN attack those reasons/facts if they are false.

It really all just speaks to a larger annoyance of mine with the "new media" writing articles that are factually inaccurate and grossly biased.

Part of this article has merit, and part is complete garbage. It's unfortunate for consumers trying to make informed decisions that articles like this muddy the picture.

What a lot of people don't seem to realize is this growing market is big enough for BOTH Android and Apple, and probably another OS or two. BOTH are and will continue to be wildly successful. Over time, there will be little differentiation on features and more on user interface and apps. Contrary to popular opinion (of some), one size does not fit all.

 

[Martin030908]

I have no comment. That is my comment.

R-I-D-I-C-U-L-O-U-S

 

[Asperity]

^Wow...I didnt get that from reading #3....

So what you are saying is Android had it first. Now Apple has it. Now Android will be hard pressed to provide a better mobile OS.....

And thats one of the 10 reasons Android cant touch iOS.....according to the author....cuz iOS finally has multi tasking....that Android already had....

It's not about feature vs. feature. Multitasking is about closing the one major hole in iOS that it's competitors could leverage against Apple. The company simply had no way to counter that point in any feature-set comparison. He doesn't develop the point as much as you might expect, but if you read the entire article objectively (which many can't do, and others have admitted in this thread to not reading it all the way through), you clearly see this isn't a simply feature vs. feature article. Company background, ideology ect. also play a role in his general assertion that Android can't touch iOS.

I think it's fairly obvious his general point here is that with multitasking being supported in iOS4 now, the platform no longer has that huge feature deficiency in comparison to Android. With that hole closed, Android must, moreso than before, look at the other aspects of the platform in order to compete with iOS, things such as UI, ease of use, app quality and platform security. Given the other points he makes, specifically his discussion on Apple being a consumer driven company and Google advertising oriented, he doesn't feel Google can compete with providing an OS as polished and easy to use as iOS.

Sure it is. Look at the title of the article: Top-10 reasons Android can't touch iOS. It's misleading at best - normally you expect such a list to be based on differentiating features.

Maybe so, but after reading the first point, you should have properly adjusted your expectations as his very first point was had nothing to do with operating system features, but instead specifically referenced Google. That should have tipped you off that this isn't just about the operating system, but the companies developing it and their associated skill sets, history, and ideology.

Read the statement again: "Because of [multitasking], Android has a long way to go to match anything iOS offers".

That statement simply doesn't belong in the list. Something Android was already doing is not a reason "Android can't touch iOS". The only logical implication is that Android doesn't multi-task. Note the writer didn't say "because Android no longer has an advantage with multi-tasking..."

See my explanation above. Hopefully that clears it up for you.

The writer goes further talking about how "users" wanted mult-tasking for years. It's a somewhat vague reference and the writer can only be referring to IPhone users. But, again, as written the vague statement could be interpreted as multi-tasking not being available in the market. And that's consistent with the later statement implying Android doesn't multi-task. And, what, "multitasking is a KEY reason Apple has enjoyed success as of late"? The choice of words - in three different statements - certainly makes it appear that the writer believes iOS is the only phone doing multitasking.n

It isn't vague at all:

"For years, consumers were hoping for true multitasking. But for years, the company made no promises."

It's pretty clear that the scope is restricted to Apple and its consumers.

 

[xious]

People being biased are not good for any critique, whether it be for Apple or for Google. I am all for unbiased critique, but it really makes people look stupid when they start posting crap like that eWeek writer did. There were a couple things he may have come close on, but it really seems like he was writing emotional opinion instead of actually giving his readers true fact and letting them decide for themselves.

Yes, Apple has a better-looking UI and has better looking apps. Does that mean they are better functioning? Not necessarily. But after reading that article, I don't think I could really bring myself to agree with anything he wrote.

Stop being fanboys! It doesn't really help anything. And Google needs Apple around for competition, so it's good that each company keeps getting better and better. They feed off of each other and everyone profits.

X

 

[mtnbkrbob]

why cant we all just get along.....dancedroid

 

[Bilgediver]

^Wow...I didnt get that from reading #3....

So what you are saying is Android had it first. Now Apple has it. Now Android will be hard pressed to provide a better mobile OS.....

And thats one of the 10 reasons Android cant touch iOS.....according to the author....cuz iOS finally has multi tasking....that Android already had....

It's not about feature vs. feature. Multitasking is about closing the one major hole in iOS that it's competitors could leverage against Apple. The company simply had no way to counter that point in any feature-set comparison. He doesn't develop the point as much as you might expect, but if you read the entire article objectively (which many can't do, and others have admitted in this thread to not reading it all the way through), you clearly see this isn't a simply feature vs. feature article. Company background, ideology ect. also play a role in his general assertion that Android can't touch iOS.

I think it's fairly obvious his general point here is that with multitasking being supported in iOS4 now, the platform no longer has that huge feature deficiency in comparison to Android. With that hole closed, Android must, moreso than before, look at the other aspects of the platform in order to compete with iOS, things such as UI, ease of use, app quality and platform security. Given the other points he makes, specifically his discussion on Apple being a consumer driven company and Google advertising oriented, he doesn't feel Google can compete with providing an OS as polished and easy to use as iOS.

Sure it is. Look at the title of the article: Top-10 reasons Android can't touch iOS. It's misleading at best - normally you expect such a list to be based on differentiating features.

Maybe so, but after reading the first point, you should have properly adjusted your expectations as his very first point was had nothing to do with operating system features, but instead specifically referenced Google. That should have tipped you off that this isn't just about the operating system, but the companies developing it and their associated skill sets, history, and ideology.

Read the statement again: "Because of [multitasking], Android has a long way to go to match anything iOS offers".

That statement simply doesn't belong in the list. Something Android was already doing is not a reason "Android can't touch iOS". The only logical implication is that Android doesn't multi-task. Note the writer didn't say "because Android no longer has an advantage with multi-tasking..."

See my explanation above. Hopefully that clears it up for you.

The writer goes further talking about how "users" wanted mult-tasking for years. It's a somewhat vague reference and the writer can only be referring to IPhone users. But, again, as written the vague statement could be interpreted as multi-tasking not being available in the market. And that's consistent with the later statement implying Android doesn't multi-task. And, what, "multitasking is a KEY reason Apple has enjoyed success as of late"? The choice of words - in three different statements - certainly makes it appear that the writer believes iOS is the only phone doing multitasking.n

It isn't vague at all:

"For years, consumers were hoping for true multitasking. But for years, the company made no promises."

It's pretty clear that the scope is restricted to Apple and its consumers.

but his article presupposes that TRUE multitasking is available on iOS 4 and that is just simply not true. Oh sure it has SOME multitasking, it allows for SPECIFIC feautres on the phone to run in the background, but to run the full application in the background while you're running one in the foreground? iOS4 DOES NOT DO THAT.

 

[GT944]

I think people are getting too fired up about what one dude wrote in an article. He is entitled to his opinion as right or wrong as it may be. I don't understand why we get so defensive about these articles that are pro apple. There are just as many biased android articles as well.

There is a ton of defensive talk going on here, I think it has a lot to do with the fact that the two groups - apple and adroid users - are pretty polarized in what we like in our phones. Not to mention that until recently, Apple has dominated the tech-phone market; now that the Droid systems are growing so well, theres actually a device to compare (pardon the pun) apples-to-apples in terms of capability.

I also happen to think there's a particular snobbiness that comes with the Apple products when we start comparing them to competitors - for so long they've been supreme with no argument - now there's something comparable to "take down the big dog". Don't get me wrong, I think Apple makes great quality products - people just need to accept that there is more than one good way to do things. I think you've got some good points here - we as groups are pretty polarized against one another for the most part.

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[kodiak799]

It isn't vague at all:

"For years, consumers were hoping for true multitasking. But for years, the company made no promises."

It's pretty clear that the scope is restricted to Apple and its consumers.

Again, when writing an article titled "Why Android can't touch iOS" you expect a comparison, you expect differentiation to be highlighted. Talking about features in a vacuum is misleading at best. Highlighting something that, according to you, has to deal with differentiation from Android REMOVED has no place in that list. What does the writer mean by "multitasking was key to IOS4 sales"? Does he mean people would have instead bought Android? Does he mean people wouldn't have bought IPhone4 without it? I say bull on both points. So the writer doesn't imply multitasking as a point of differentiation, he's pretty clearly stating it. But Android multitasks, so how is this a point of differentiation for Apple?

Multitasking is absolutely not a reason Android "can't touch iOS". I don't know what's so difficult to understand about that. So, in fact, either the writer struggled to come up with 10 reasons or the writer is implying Android doesn't multi-task. Sloppy writing at best, if not intentionally misleading.

I won't even bother discussing offering opinions "Apple knows it's customer" as facts that really do nothing to support the conclusion offered in the title. Google knows its customer, too. I don't see how Apple "knowing its customer" is a reason that Android "can't touch iOS".

The list is mostly 10 reasons Apple is a good company rather than 10 reasons Android can't compete.

 

[Inkarnit]

Wow. I didn't know all these facts. I want to buy an iPhone4 now. /wave Android

 

[Inkarnit]

Especially considering this...

Review: iPhone-controlled drone fun but expensive - Yahoo! News

 

[BUFFALOMADMAN]

"One of the main issues with Android 2.2 is that the software doesn't respond as effectively as it should when compared with iOS. Does that mean there is a responsiveness issue with Android 2.2? Absolutely not. In fact, compared with other operating systems, it holds up quite well. But Apple's platform is different. It's just that iOS simply provides more responsiveness when users interact with it. It could be extremely difficult for Google match that any time soon"


Really that is a really dumb answer to why the iphone is better. But it really dont matter cause we all know droid is better the only difference is we dont have to put these lists out to show it cause everybody already knows it!!!:droideris::motdroidhoriz:

 

[czerdrill]

"One of the main issues with Android 2.2 is that the software doesn't respond as effectively as it should when compared with iOS. Does that mean there is a responsiveness issue with Android 2.2? Absolutely not. In fact, compared with other operating systems, it holds up quite well. But Apple's platform is different. It's just that iOS simply provides more responsiveness when users interact with it. It could be extremely difficult for Google match that any time soon"


Really that is a really dumb answer to why the iphone is better. But it really dont matter cause we all know droid is better the only difference is we dont have to put these lists out to show it cause everybody already knows it!!!:droideris::motdroidhoriz:

Why Android blows away the iOS, for me. | John C. Bland II

iPhone vs Android Round 2: Why Android Is Better

10 things Android phones do better than the iPhone | 10 Things | TechRepublic.com

That was just a quick search of google...there are PLENTY of "Android is better than iPhone stuff out there"...don't be a fanboy.

 

[BUFFALOMADMAN]

If you click on the authors name you will see why he wrote this list lol look at all his topics he wrote about its pretty funny. check it out on eweeks website.

 

[BUFFALOMADMAN]

"One of the main issues with Android 2.2 is that the software doesn't respond as effectively as it should when compared with iOS. Does that mean there is a responsiveness issue with Android 2.2? Absolutely not. In fact, compared with other operating systems, it holds up quite well. But Apple's platform is different. It's just that iOS simply provides more responsiveness when users interact with it. It could be extremely difficult for Google match that any time soon"


Really that is a really dumb answer to why the iphone is better. But it really dont matter cause we all know droid is better the only difference is we dont have to put these lists out to show it cause everybody already knows it!!!:droideris::motdroidhoriz:

Why Android blows away the iOS, for me. | John C. Bland II

iPhone vs Android Round 2: Why Android Is Better

10 things Android phones do better than the iPhone | 10 Things | TechRepublic.com

That was just a quick search of google...there are PLENTY of "Android is better than iPhone stuff out there"...don't be a fanboy.

And as for you have you ever heard of sarcasm or being sarcastic?? You are crazy relax your little weiner bro. And so you know I am the biggest fan boy wooooooodancedroid