I can't help but laugh at those who try to pump the Bionic over the Bolt

[iNfAMOUS702]

What is the big attraction to using DLNA or hdmi from a phone. If I want to see a high quality video I will throw in a blue ray disc.
If you just want to share a video that you took from the phone I'm sure DLNA will be good enough since the phone camera won't have a quality lenses or be using a 3 cmos sensor.

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Agreed...ive prolly only used hdmi on my droid X like once? Just to try it out...much ado about nothing FOR ME..the support from the dev community was a huge reason for me getting the tbolt...drod2169,kejar moved on to the tbolt..fab left the droid X to mess with sammy fones I think..the blackdroid will prolly never release a stable UD rom for the DX/D2..angdroid is awol...TBH has other things to worry about right now..obsidian is no more...and ALOT of other devs didnt even bother messing with moto such as cyanogenmod..koush (besides clockwork recovery) ..team andIRC and many others..moto will never release another OG droid again

 

[bodean]

Yeah... Sorry, I just can't help but to laugh at these people. They keep pumping up the dual core as if its this huge advance and that it automatically makes the TBolt a "dinosaur" (quote from a moderator on the main board).

Sorry, this is a quality phone. This is a damn good phone and will be around a while. Its already been rooted, the battery problems are manageable (I'm getting 20 hours a charge over a week of use while constantly being on GTalk, Handscent, and Gmail) and overstated, and it runs Sense, which helps to speed up the UI instead of slow it down. Oh, and lets not forget that this device is the new flagship of HTC.

The Bionic will have Blur, will never be rooted, and even before it comes out, its already an outdated phone on Moto's own line.

Sorry, I just don't see it. Dual core is new, and will likely lead to a TON of problems. If you think there are battery problems with the TBolt, just imagine what it would be if it was trying to power TWO processors instead of one.

Nothing to laugh about, a lot of people dont like to buy the FIRST 4g/out of the gate phone by Verizon due to bugs and issues. They dont want to beta test a phone for $250.00+

 

[MrKleen]

I'm sorry but HTC EVO 3D is gonna be the new flagship for HTC and run circles around the Thunderbolt. The real battle is gonna be between it and Bionic. This is gonna be a hot summer

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If having the phone open is not important to someone I would be surprised if the rest of the specs would matter to them. For instance, my wife could care less about what processor is in her phone. She just wants it to do what she wants.

I have to completely disagree with you there. You cant blindly put a blanket assumption down over someone's opinion.

There is a big difference between hardware specs and software specs. Android being "open" is software....and whether that is important to someone doesnt mean hardware is or is not.

Now, I want android to stay open, but I also want good devices, they are BOTH important to me and I wouldnt settle for just one or the other and be completely happy.

But its all personal opinion, to each his own.

In my opinion any phone that is unlocked with the ability to replace the kernel wins. Motorola has not had this since the original D1. Based on that the D1 beats the Bionic.

But I realize not everyone wants to flash real roms. But for those that do, Motorola told us to move on to something else. Which is exactly what I did...

 

[iNfAMOUS702]

Yeah... Sorry, I just can't help but to laugh at these people. They keep pumping up the dual core as if its this huge advance and that it automatically makes the TBolt a "dinosaur" (quote from a moderator on the main board).

Sorry, this is a quality phone. This is a damn good phone and will be around a while. Its already been rooted, the battery problems are manageable (I'm getting 20 hours a charge over a week of use while constantly being on GTalk, Handscent, and Gmail) and overstated, and it runs Sense, which helps to speed up the UI instead of slow it down. Oh, and lets not forget that this device is the new flagship of HTC.

The Bionic will have Blur, will never be rooted, and even before it comes out, its already an outdated phone on Moto's own line.

Sorry, I just don't see it. Dual core is new, and will likely lead to a TON of problems. If you think there are battery problems with the TBolt, just imagine what it would be if it was trying to power TWO processors instead of one.

Nothing to laugh about, a lot of people dont like to buy the FIRST 4g/out of the gate phone by Verizon due to bugs and issues. They dont want to beta test a phone for $250.00+

The same can be said about motorolas first lte fone on verizon...plus the software just isn't optimized for dual core yet

 

[cpjr]

If having the phone open is not important to someone I would be surprised if the rest of the specs would matter to them. For instance, my wife could care less about what processor is in her phone. She just wants it to do what she wants.

I have to completely disagree with you there. You cant blindly put a blanket assumption down over someone's opinion.

There is a big difference between hardware specs and software specs. Android being "open" is software....and whether that is important to someone doesnt mean hardware is or is not.

Now, I want android to stay open, but I also want good devices, they are BOTH important to me and I wouldnt settle for just one or the other and be completely happy.

But its all personal opinion, to each his own.

In my opinion any phone that is unlocked with the ability to replace the kernel wins. Motorola has not had this since the original D1. Based on that the D1 beats the Bionic.

But I realize not everyone wants to flash real roms. But for those that do, Motorola told us to move on to something else. Which is exactly what I did...

Ok, now for the sake of argument tell me this.....why is flashing a kernel SOOOO important to you?

I had a DX for 8 months and loved it. Had it rooted, ROM'ed and overclocked to 1.45ghz, the locked bootloader didnt prevent me from doing ANYTHING.

Now, I have the TB and have it rooted, ROM'ed and a custom kernel....it flies just like the DX did.

By looking at or using either phone you wouldnt/couldnt tell if the bootloader was locked or not.

Im playing devil's advocate.....YES I want it unlocked/open, but in all honesty I think people really blow the issue out of proportion.

 

[JustisLewis]

I have to completely disagree with you there. You cant blindly put a blanket assumption down over someone's opinion.

There is a big difference between hardware specs and software specs. Android being "open" is software....and whether that is important to someone doesnt mean hardware is or is not.

Now, I want android to stay open, but I also want good devices, they are BOTH important to me and I wouldnt settle for just one or the other and be completely happy.

But its all personal opinion, to each his own.

In my opinion any phone that is unlocked with the ability to replace the kernel wins. Motorola has not had this since the original D1. Based on that the D1 beats the Bionic.

But I realize not everyone wants to flash real roms. But for those that do, Motorola told us to move on to something else. Which is exactly what I did...

Ok, now for the sake of argument tell me this.....why is flashing a kernel SOOOO important to you?

I had a DX for 8 months and loved it. Had it rooted, ROM'ed and overclocked to 1.45ghz, the locked bootloader didnt prevent me from doing ANYTHING.

Now, I have the TB and have it rooted, ROM'ed and a custom kernel....it flies just like the DX did.

By looking at or using either phone you wouldnt/couldnt tell if the bootloader was locked or not.

Im playing devil's advocate.....YES I want it unlocked/open, but in all honesty I think people really blow the issue out of proportion.

Without custom kernels you can't flash true custom roms

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[cpjr]

In my opinion any phone that is unlocked with the ability to replace the kernel wins. Motorola has not had this since the original D1. Based on that the D1 beats the Bionic.

But I realize not everyone wants to flash real roms. But for those that do, Motorola told us to move on to something else. Which is exactly what I did...

Ok, now for the sake of argument tell me this.....why is flashing a kernel SOOOO important to you?

I had a DX for 8 months and loved it. Had it rooted, ROM'ed and overclocked to 1.45ghz, the locked bootloader didnt prevent me from doing ANYTHING.

Now, I have the TB and have it rooted, ROM'ed and a custom kernel....it flies just like the DX did.

By looking at or using either phone you wouldnt/couldnt tell if the bootloader was locked or not.

Im playing devil's advocate.....YES I want it unlocked/open, but in all honesty I think people really blow the issue out of proportion.

Without custom kernels you can't flash true custom roms

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Again, instead of a textbook answer....tell me the difference (as if I dont know).

Tell me what you can do on the TB (or anything with an unlocked bootloader) that you WOULDNT be able to do with a DX for example.

PS- My point is, If you cant come up with a good reason, why is it an issue.

 

[jseah]

For me, it wouldn't matter if the EVO 3D had a quad core processor, 128 gigabytes of RAM and could change the oil on my car. The fact of the matter is that in the area where I live, Sprint coverage is horrible and is just marginally better than T-Mobile.

 

[INCREMENTAL]

IDK why you and everyone wants to have this argument. I am for the Bionic but both phones will be great. I believe us android guys need to stick together period. We are a fleet of an army and the only enemy is that GAY IPHONE... enough said!!!

Edit: that was to the author of this post, forgot to quote.

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[cpjr]

IDK why you and everyone wants to have this argument. I am for the Bionic but both phones will be great. I believe us android guys need to stick together period. We are a fleet of an army and the only enemy is that GAY IPHONE... enough said!!!

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Actually that attitude isnt much better really, who cares whether you choose an android device or an iphone, or a windows phone, or a blackberry.

Its all personal opinion, to each his own, I could care less what the next person wants.

You need to remember, if it wasnt for everyone having such different opinions, we wouldnt have all the great choices that we do have

 

[INCREMENTAL]

IDK why you and everyone wants to have this argument. I am for the Bionic but both phones will be great. I believe us android guys need to stick together period. We are a fleet of an army and the only enemy is that GAY IPHONE... enough said!!!

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Actually that attitude isnt much better really, who cares whether you choose an android device or an iphone, or a windows phone, or a blackberry.

Its all personal opinion, to each his own, I could care less what the next person wants.

You need to remember, if it wasnt for everyone having such different opinions, we wouldnt have all the great choices that we do have

Your right buuuutttt its been a flame war from the beginning and I just ain't gonna sit back and say nothing. The iphone is so overated.

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[cpjr]

^The flames wouldnt be there if everyone didnt keep fueling them.

 

[dafischman]

Ok, now for the sake of argument tell me this.....why is flashing a kernel SOOOO important to you?

I had a DX for 8 months and loved it. Had it rooted, ROM'ed and overclocked to 1.45ghz, the locked bootloader didnt prevent me from doing ANYTHING.

Now, I have the TB and have it rooted, ROM'ed and a custom kernel....it flies just like the DX did.

By looking at or using either phone you wouldnt/couldnt tell if the bootloader was locked or not.

Im playing devil's advocate.....YES I want it unlocked/open, but in all honesty I think people really blow the issue out of proportion.

Without custom kernels you can't flash true custom roms

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Again, instead of a textbook answer....tell me the difference (as if I dont know).

Tell me what you can do on the TB (or anything with an unlocked bootloader) that you WOULDNT be able to do with a DX for example.

PS- My point is, If you cant come up with a good reason, why is it an issue.

The main thing an unlocked bootloader allows you to do is make more changes to the system. This means we don't have to wait for Motorola to leak a version of GB or any future OS version with the encrypted bootloader to get it on your phone. That is why the D1 has had GB roms for awhile and the DX and D2 had to wait until it was leaked by moto themselves. If moto chooses to stop supporting a device, you'll never end up with the newest OS with the locked bootloader.

Josh

 

[dafischman]

I also agree that why do people care so much about what other people want/like. It's stupid, just get what you want and be happy.

Josh

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[cpjr]

Without custom kernels you can't flash true custom roms

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Again, instead of a textbook answer....tell me the difference (as if I dont know).

Tell me what you can do on the TB (or anything with an unlocked bootloader) that you WOULDNT be able to do with a DX for example.

PS- My point is, If you cant come up with a good reason, why is it an issue.

The main thing an unlocked bootloader allows you to do is make more changes to the system. This means we don't have to wait for Motorola to leak a version of GB or any future OS version with the encrypted bootloader to get it on your phone. That is why the D1 has had GB roms for awhile and the DX and D2 had to wait until it was leaked by moto themselves. If moto chooses to stop supporting a device, you'll never end up with the newest OS with the locked bootloader.

Josh

Yeah I understand that and agree....BUT.....

At that point we should be mad at the company for not supporting a device that they released, not because the bootloader is locked and we cant support it ourselves

In the end, it is, like I stated before, an issue and makes a negative impact for sure, but people really blow it out of proportion and there hasnt been any huge impact with any of the devices out YET to prove that issue.