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Is anyone the tiniest bit jealous of the iPhone 4s?

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Sorry everyone except Lickdirt, oops I meant Lejerk.
I am not interested in discussing religion as we can find similar immature posts throughout all forums.

The thing that left me in awe is your comments on marketing never working on you, and mocking those it does work on, we sometimes refer to them as the entire human race.
Are you truly so dense that you can make that statement without laughing to the point of being unable to press submit?
Every purchase you have made and will make is influenced by marketing you simpleton.

A while back something called consumerism began. Oh and this course is gratis, you are welcome. We ran out of things to make that people needed, so we created needs for people that we could then sell products to address said needs.

Do you own clothing? Is it all opaque and made by some fella named Al. Do you own a car, a televison or let's say a phone.
How did you learn of its existence and where to get it, do you like how it is designed and how the UI looks. Do you really even really need it to survive and live?

We in this place called reality, refer to all of that as marketing.
Do you use a toothbrush and toothpaste? Why? I would have figured you had outsmarted the system and tied hogs hair together and rubbed them in a mix of agar and sand!

Wait you pay money for toilet paper? Ha. I kick it old school and like the farmers of old I only use finished corn cobs that have been dried out.

I think you need to set aside your passion for film and try to cultivate new passions, say learning or reading or observing, oh how bout silence.

walkin the walk while tappin the talk
danceswithbongs
 
sorry everyone except lickdirt, oops i meant lejerk.
I am not interested in discussing religion as we can find similar immature posts throughout all forums.

The thing that left me in awe is your comments on marketing never working on you, and mocking those it does work on, we sometimes refer to them as the entire human race.
Are you truly so dense that you can make that statement without laughing to the point of being unable to press submit?
Every purchase you have made and will make is influenced by marketing you simpleton.

A while back something called consumerism began. Oh and this course is gratis, you are welcome. We ran out of things to make that people needed, so we created needs for people that we could then sell products to address said needs.

Do you own clothing? Is it all opaque and made by some fella named al. Do you own a car, a televison or let's say a phone.
How did you learn of its existence and where to get it, do you like how it is designed and how the ui looks. Do you really even really need it to survive and live?

We in this place called reality, refer to all of that as marketing.
Do you use a toothbrush and toothpaste? Why? I would have figured you had outsmarted the system and tied hogs hair together and rubbed them in a mix of agar and sand!

Wait you pay money for toilet paper? Ha. I kick it old school and like the farmers of old i only use finished corn cobs that have been dried out.

I think you need to set aside your passion for film and try to cultivate new passions, say learning or reading or observing, oh how bout silence.

Walkin the walk while tappin the talk
danceswithbongs

lol! :D

D2CM7.1
 
From the famous words of the all great movie The Breakfast Club......"Not..Even...Close Bud!!"..lol

You juss been TAPPED! by the drummer
LIQUID 3.0 or Anything but Stock!!!!
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From the famous words of the all great movie The Breakfast Club......"Not..Even...Close Bud!!"..lol

You juss been TAPPED! by the drummer
LIQUID 3.0 or Anything but Stock!!!!
<><>-------------------PEACE---------------------<><>

d2d
Does Barry Manilow know you robbed his wardrobe?

walkin the walk while tappin the talk
danceswithbongs
 
d2d
Does Barry Manilow know you robbed his wardrobe?

walkin the walk while tappin the talk
danceswithbongs

Lmao! Yes you were a parents wet dream!..lol Love that movie brother! Hahahha

You juss been TAPPED! by the drummer
LIQUID 3.0 or Anything but Stock!!!!
<><>-------------------PEACE---------------------<><>
 
...and yet it sells millions. Must be doing something right I guess

Sales indicate absolutely nothing about the actual value or quality of the product relative to its competitors. McDonald's sells far more hamburgers than anyone else. They're far from the best. I don't think they're the best value. Everyone tends to talk about how crappy they are, but they keep on selling. Why? They are the biggest, best-known known name, and people buy what they know.

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Sales indicate absolutely nothing about the actual value or quality of the product relative to its competitors. McDonald's sells far more hamburgers than anyone else. They're far from the best. I don't think they're the best value. Everyone tends to talk about how crappy they are, but they keep on selling. Why? They are the biggest, best-known known name, and people buy what they know.

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So what metric determines quality? Specs alone? "Best" is a subjective thing, numbers don't lie.
 
So what metric determines quality? Specs alone? "Best" is a subjective thing, numbers don't lie.
Numbers don't "lie" per se, but they can be twisted through subjective interpretation such as you seem to be doing here. The numbers say that Apple is good at selling iPhones (which we already knew) and that is all the numbers can possibly say.
 
Numbers don't "lie" per se, but they can be twisted through subjective interpretation such as you seem to be doing here. The numbers say that Apple is good at selling iPhones (which we already knew) and that is all the numbers can possibly say.

So you wouldn't agree that quality determines sales? That's what I don't get. I find it extremely silly that people even suggest brainwashing and cults etc. Are people miserable with their iphones but just can't stop buying them?
 
Not at all. I'll take my 4.3 inch screen over the iphone's tiny screen any day, thank you.
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So you wouldn't agree that quality determines sales?
No, I wouldn't. Quality is a factor, but it is only one of several important factors, and not even the most important. Research shows time and again that familiarity is the most important factor. Now, I'm not suggesting that iPhone products are of poor quality or of no value. But it is far more familiar than whatever the Android flavor of the month might be, and that will lead to high sales regardless of relative value and quality, whatever your subjective standards might be.
That's what I don't get. I find it extremely silly that people even suggest brainwashing and cults etc. Are people miserable with their iphones but just can't stop buying them?
It's hyperbole. People who don't care for iProducts see their friends and family buying Apple's stuff without even examining competing products. They're happy with an iPhone, but they might have been happier with something else--but they don't even care to consider that idea. Brainwashing and cults are a wry analogy for the seeming inability to do critical thinking or even consider alternative choices. The famous "iPhone 4 vs HTC Evo" video is another observation of the phenomenon, from someone who isn't necessarily an Android fan. It doesn't help the "cult" accusations that there is a subculture of dedicated Apple fans who insist that Apple does absolutely everything perfectly, their computers never crash, are incapable of getting viruses, etc., etc. While these are not necessarily the the same as your typical iPhone customer, it is very easy to combine these two phenomena and joke about "reality distortion fields."
 
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In our home, we have a macbook pro, imac desktop, 3 ipod touchs' and hope to get an ipad soon. But we will NEVER have an iphone. No user replaceable battery, can't fully customize, can't root.

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No, I wouldn't. Quality is a factor, but it is only one of several important factors, and not even the most important. Research shows time and again that familiarity is the most important factor. Now, I'm not suggesting that iPhone products are of poor quality or of no value. But it is far more familiar than whatever the Android flavor of the month might be, and that will lead to high sales regardless of relative value and quality, whatever your subjective standards might be.

Well that's my point. Of course marketing and familiarity is important but you don't have sales like Apple if the quality is not there. Specs are the least important factor, because specs are only for people on forums like these to argue about. Specs have zero to do with quality. I agree that Apple knows how to market, they know what their customers want, and their sales prove that. What I don't agree with is some people's insinuation that a smaller screen or lower specs somehow means the iPhone is a "fail" or low quality or something. It's not. Android users love to say consumers love choice, and they are continuing to choose the iPhone in droves over any individual android phone (and there are several android phones that blow the iPhone away from a specs perspective). At some point, "familiarity" and "good advertising" has to concede to quality. It's nonsensical to think otherwise, IMO.

It's hyperbole. People who don't care for iProducts see their friends and family buying Apple's stuff without without even examining competing products. They're happy with an iPhone, but they might have been happier with something else--but they don't even care to consider that idea. Brainwashing and cults are a wry analogy for the seeming inability to do critical thinking or even consider alternative choices. The famous "iPhone 4 vs HTC Evo" video is another observation of the phenomenon, from someone who isn't necessarily an Android fan. It doesn't help the "cult" accusations that there is a subculture of dedicated Apple fans who insist that Apple does absolutely everything perfectly, their computers never crash, are incapable of getting viruses, etc., etc. While these are not necessarily the the same as your typical iPhone customer, it is very easy to combine these two phenomena and joke about "reality distortion fields."

It's hyperbole, yes, that however doesn't make it any less crazy. The problem with this, that no one who says those things will admit, is that Android users do the same thing. There is ​a subculture of Android fans whose sole purpose is to downplay everything that Apple does, and immediately dismiss anything they do as a fail (all the while spamming the boards looking for Siri alternatives). My stance has always been, and still is, that both sides have fanatics and both sides have people who actually see what it really is. Like I said the numbers don't lie. iPhone benchmarks show that it destroys every other smartphone in existence. When things like that are brought up people compare 4G android data speeds to iPhones 3G speeds as some sort of victory. It makes no sense. Apple does plenty of things well, and they often are the ones who inspire innovation, and on the same page Android OEMs inspire Apple.

My issue has always been those who refuse to admit that Apple makes a quality product, when every metric out there says otherwise. That's just as fanatic and cult like as the so called iSheep.
 
Not so much. Ive played with it. Its mildly impressive. But seems like apple just played catch up to the Bionic. Its not even a 4G phone. Im happy with my Bionic!

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