Ok, I understand most of that, but how would they know when we use their app? It would be no different if we left the app on there and NEVER EVER once clicked it. That also would be no different in removing the app. They paid for the app to be on there but that's where it stops. What the consumer does to the app is their choice and is no longer in the developers/advertisers control.How do they make money if we don't click on it? Same way they make money from commercials. They pay to put it on the air. But with TIVO, they could see that people were forwarding through them. This angered the people who were paying top dollar to put ads in front of the viewers, who were then using the fast forward button to circumvent them.
So they went and pressured the TV networks and TIVO themselves, saying that they were not willing to pay them the advertising fees unless they could guarantee that people would have to actually view the ads.
By letting us remove the bloat, that they PAID for to be on there, that opens the door for them to go to VZW and not pay them as much, or cancel the contracts or not renew them unless VZW could guarantee that their apps could not be removed.
That costs VZW money. So our rooting and removing the bloat, VZW sees as stealing their ability to sell and generate that revenue from those 3rd parties.
It's crazy, but that is how this crap works.
I've seen some people say that rooting your phone prevents any OTA from updating. I never had that problem. The only time an OTA update is prevented is by installing a ROM that was coded to stay at a certain version, rather than OTA updating, changing the version, and thus making things incompatible to use on your phone.
So, in other words you're saying that the developers/advertisers pay money to VZW with their updates on bloatware, but some updates don't make it to some phones because of a custom ROM blocking it? Therefore the money expected to be generated from these updates is less than expected?
Makes no sense. I'm at lost for words here.
OK to answer this one you have to look at it just like the TV ads spoke of. We may not buy what the are advertising, but it is in our faces none the less, we still see it, and eventually enough people will start to wonder what all the hype is and try it out. Same with an app, we may not use it, but everytime we open our app drawers, there it is staring us in the face, you or I may never open that app we think is garbage, but enough subscribers will click it, and may even find it useful.
As to the question of roms, no it is not just the fact that it blocks ota updates, this is not really relevant to this particular question, as the apps updates all come from the market and therefore you can choose to update the program or not. What some/most roms allow you to do is remove the app completely from your phone, thus you never see it, and never give it another thought to try it out, therefore it is like people skipping through ads on their tivo, the companies paying for the ads are not going to pay what they used to, if they choose to pay up at all after their initial agreement. This is some serious revenue loss, and sorry if we all do not like it, that is what a business is all about...making revenue, when a business starts losing revenue, especially due to their customers defrauding them, they will take action to recuperate, and remove the loss of revenue. If you actually think Verizon, or any other big business gives more of a ratzass about us customers than they do about the almighty dollar, you are mistaken. They only care as long as we pay, and they care less than we pay!