P3Droid: Some Food for Thought - Bootloaders, Rooting, Manufacturers, and Carriers

[nerdslogic]

Well I just spoke to my cousin and a high school buddy....one works in corperate offices in VZW and the other for Moto and both reassured me that the statements in P3Droid's thread are not accurate.

Care to cough up Names and Emails?

No names to be posted.....how about a phone number and work hours so you don't get him in trouble at work? The main reason we were able to talk was due to a text from me this morning and him calling on lunch.

 

[nerdslogic]

Rooting won't cause your screen to die. It won't cause a button to fall off.

I don't know lol, sometimes i wonder if i'm going to wear out my volume buttons, navigating through my files in CWM.

Legit concern right there.....my volume down button doesn't really work right anymore....it is super sensative and doesn't depress. I blame CWM.dancedroid

 

[canyoufindben]

Rooting won't cause your screen to die. It won't cause a button to fall off.

I don't know lol, sometimes i wonder if i'm going to wear out my volume buttons, navigating through my files in CWM.

Legit concern right there.....my volume down button doesn't really work right anymore....it is super sensative and doesn't depress. I blame CWM.dancedroid

So we're all in agreement. It's Koush's fault.

 

[czerdrill]

I don't know lol, sometimes i wonder if i'm going to wear out my volume buttons, navigating through my files in CWM.

Legit concern right there.....my volume down button doesn't really work right anymore....it is super sensative and doesn't depress. I blame CWM.dancedroid

So we're all in agreement. It's Koush's fault.

LOL. Why didn't we figure this out earlier?

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[cereal killer]

When I asked about all of this he started cracking up saying he read this too and thinks it's hilarious. It is actually a running joke right now in Corp VZW.

I don't know about that. I'm looking out my front window and their is a Black truck with a big red VZW swoosh down the side with 2 guys using binoculars looking at my apartment.

Hold on............ok I'm typing this from my bathroom on my laptop. They are snooping around my place right now. Both wear black suits and dark sunglasses. I'm getting real scared. Hold on..........

ok I moved into my bunker that I built a while back preparing for the Chinese to invade (yeah it's coming in a month but thats another topic) I'm starting to believe there may be some truth to this.

Hold on..........ok I moved into a deeper chamber so that couldn't intercept my post. Anyway guys be on the lookout for any strange events happening around your homes/apartments if your rooted. Hold on..............ok I cut the oxygen off in case one of them is in here somewhere and I don't know about it....one sec..........ok I got some scuba gear on so I can breathe. Anyway, you may want to go back to stock until this all blows over. You never know.

 

[Quicksilver7714]

Lol ck

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[jntdroid]

so close to 1000... i mean, that's the goal right?

:icon_eek:

 

[canyoufindben]

almost there

 

[cereal killer]

WAIT!! What the heck was that?!!!!! Anyone just see that? I just saw an Alpaca flying over the tree tops!!

 

[Its TwiX]

To all that don't believe in the P3 religion and didn't unroot their phones, BAMF 1.4 is coming soon!

/sneakpeak

 

[kptphalkon]

Unless it applies to my phone model, i dont care.

P3 sux

 

[aristoid]

So I haven't exactly headed for the bomb shelter yet *but* I do get nervous when a strange car rolls by!! Guess I should unroot and go back to 2.2... I just can't stand the white staus bar!!!

Hopin' to bat 1.000!!

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[bplewis24]

Yes VZW took something and split it to make more money. Their right as a on going business concern.

Ehh, you're right that it's tangible. They did it and thus it's unauthorized to circumvent it. But I believe the bold portion is dubious and debatable. If something like this were ever taken to a court of law, I have my doubts as to whether it would hold up or not.

lol @ "Things are moving faster than I thought."

Really? I love a good laugh, whats so funny about that?

This is a classic "string them along" tactic. Mind you, I'm not saying that he is making anything up at all. I'm saying that the time for vague and dramatic hints has come and gone. It reminds me of soap operas or shows like Lost, that use cliff-hangers and mysterious, undefined plot devices to keep audiences on the edge of their seats for the payoff revelation, but then only deliver another mysterious, undefined cliff-hanger to spur the show along.

Yeah, that works for a while, but eventually people get tired of constantly being teased with information and just want to get on with it already. They realize that the show is no longer a real "drama" and is instead just a laughable attempt to cover up lack of any true substance.

At this point, if he isn't going to say specifically what is going on, it's only real value is for comic relief, IMO. It stopped being good drama a few tweets ago. Again, I will eat all crow available to me if/when the day comes I'm wrong.

the ToS specifically states that any changes to the phone's software takes it out of specification for use on their network

If you're referring to part "e" of their "End Service" section, that is customarily interpreted as meaning hardware specifications. "Software" is never explicitly mentioned. Additionally, it is somewhat illogical to assume it refers to software as that changes constantly. As soon as you were pushed an OTA Gingerbread or Froyo update from the carrier, they would then be able to cut off your service, according to that interpretation.

I thought the Supreme Court's ruling last year made rooting/jailbreaking legal, and basically said that, while it can still void the warranty, the service cannot be terminated b/c of it?

That was the Library of Congress. And their jurisdiction there is questionable. Oh, and Squire is more correct on the warranty/ToS issue than those opposing him. You are not violating ToS by rooting. You may void your warranty, but that is not the same as them denying you service.

When I asked about all of this he started cracking up saying he read this too and thinks it's hilarious. It is actually a running joke right now in Corp VZW.

I completely agree with him. Not just because I said the same things all day yesterday, but because it should be a running joke.

My cousins quote regarding rooting was quite simple...."root your phone....void your warranty....we don't care because we have tons of phones....we can just sell you another one."

Bingo. Like I said, it's a warranty issue, NOT a ToS issue. Too bad people won't listen to this. And don't give out your cousin's number as that could still get him in trouble and this internet dramatization isn't worth that. Let people believe otherwise if they want to.

Sorry for the long post.

Brandon

 

[dfuser312553]

This thread continues....

Unless it applies to my phone model, i dont care.

P3 sux

Hardly anything applies to D2G so that should be easy.

 

[Preach2k]

When I asked about all of this he started cracking up saying he read this too and thinks it's hilarious. It is actually a running joke right now in Corp VZW.

I don't know about that. I'm looking out my front window and their is a Black truck with a big red VZW swoosh down the side with 2 guys using binoculars looking at my apartment.

Hold on............ok I'm typing this from my bathroom on my laptop. They are snooping around my place right now. Both wear black suits and dark sunglasses. I'm getting real scared. Hold on..........

ok I moved into my bunker that I built a while back preparing for the Chinese to invade (yeah it's coming in a month but thats another topic) I'm starting to believe there may be some truth to this.

Hold on..........ok I moved into a deeper chamber so that couldn't intercept my post. Anyway guys be on the lookout for any strange events happening around your homes/apartments if your rooted. Hold on..............ok I cut the oxygen off in case one of them is in here somewhere and I don't know about it....one sec..........ok I got some scuba gear on so I can breathe. Anyway, you may want to go back to stock until this all blows over. You never know.

LOL!!!:rofl3: