Seidio 2600mAh extended battery

[iamloco724]

I dont think nyou get the problem teddy..for most people its not the battery thast the problem its the phone firmware causing it to show that the battery is dying wen its not..i dont have the battery yet but this what i gather from this thread and others like it

 

[windstrings]

ok so far it has not helped....i was told by someone who works with the sholes team that it could take a few days, but at the moment my hopes are not very high...but i will keep you posted

Going back and reading my post "#310" the DEV of "battery left" app explains how his app works.... I'm assuming it very similiar if not the same to what the batterystats.bin needs before it will write and lock on a calibration.

Here is a summary:

needs an uninterrupted time between levels - ie if it's on 80%, then you charge it just for a few seconds, it will not log the 80% - 70% duration as the charge time in between would make that reading invalid.
The ideal phone usage for accuracy is to charge your phone completely full, then let it run down til it's completely flat. Charge til full again, and repeat. If you don't let your phone run down, or rarely charge it up full, or, connect and disconnect from charger or USB sync constantly throughout the day the widget will struggle to get accurate readings.

 

[windstrings]

Now, when I read a bit about you guys having to 'modify' files and such on your phone to get the best life out of one of these, I just have to ask myself, WTF are you smoking?

You really do need to read more before you post such strong inflammatory assumptions.

No one anywhere said they had to modify files to get the best life out of the battery.
The battery is independent, its a battery... simple as that.

Modifying a file or rather what was actually said "deleting" the file so it could be rewritten by the Droid allows a fresh calibration to be made so "hopefully" the phone will read accurately with the extended batteries after it has several days to calibrate with normal use.

Since few people are patient enough to properly calibrate with full charges and full discharges, I wouldn't be surprised if this was done in the lab and everybody got the same OEM batterystats.bin file on all their phones.
So in order to get a quality calibrated batterystats.bin file now, we have to do it the right way and can't be constantly plugging, rebooting, unplugging, etc our phones before the calibration is completed.

There is a hopeful assumptions that the original "batterystats.bin" file was calibrated with the OEM battery and so now won't relearn or recalibrate with the larger capacity battery.

This may not fix the issue at all, I'm still confused as to why it would show different upon a fresh reboot, unless thats also an issue with the batterystats.bin file.

But the only other post that implied such one another poster as yourself who made assumptions without reading.

Yes, none of us like to read all the posts, but there is also a tendency to not fully read the posts we do read, which is double room for error.

Forget what the phone reads and just look at pure runtime and the battery does as it claims.... at least mine does.... three discharges in a row now, I've gotten right at about 35 hours of use.


If someone who is rooted successfully gets a good "batterystats.bin" file calibrated for the Seidio extended battery, maybe they could post it and other rooted folks could overwrite their file with it to save them a ton of hassle?

 

[searayman]

Now, when I read a bit about you guys having to 'modify' files and such on your phone to get the best life out of one of these, I just have to ask myself, WTF are you smoking?

You really do need to read more before you post such strong inflammatory assumptions.

No one anywhere said they had to modify files to get the best life out of the battery.
The battery is independent, its a battery... simple as that.

Modifying a file or rather what was actually said "deleting" the file so it could be rewritten by the Droid allows a fresh calibration to be made so "hopefully" the phone will read accurately with the extended batteries after it has several days to calibrate with normal use.

Since few people are patient enough to properly calibrate with full charges and full discharges, I wouldn't be surprised if this was done in the lab and everybody got the same OEM batterystats.bin file on all their phones.
So in order to get a quality calibrated batterystats.bin file now, we have to do it the right way and can't be constantly plugging, rebooting, unplugging, etc our phones before the calibration is completed.

There is a hopeful assumptions that the original "batterystats.bin" file was calibrated with the OEM battery and so now won't relearn or recalibrate with the larger capacity battery.

This may not fix the issue at all, I'm still confused as to why it would show different upon a fresh reboot, unless thats also an issue with the batterystats.bin file.

But the only other post that implied such one another poster as yourself who made assumptions without reading.

Yes, none of us like to read all the posts, but there is also a tendency to not fully read the posts we do read, which is double room for error.

Forget what the phone reads and just look at pure runtime and the battery does as it claims.... at least mine does.... three discharges in a row now, I've gotten right at about 35 hours of use.


If someone who is rooted successfully gets a good "batterystats.bin" file calibrated for the Seidio extended battery, maybe they could post it and other rooted folks could overwrite their file with it to save them a ton of hassle?

I may just be imagining things but it seems like my battery meter is doing a little better today....I will keep you posted. If anyone with seidio extended battery let me know how long after unplugging there icon goes into the red that could help me compare.

But standby for more info throughout the day, and if this works i will def share my batterystats.bin

 

[solorca]

Now, when I read a bit about you guys having to 'modify' files and such on your phone to get the best life out of one of these, I just have to ask myself, WTF are you smoking?

You really do need to read more before you post such strong inflammatory assumptions.

No one anywhere said they had to modify files to get the best life out of the battery.
The battery is independent, its a battery... simple as that.

Modifying a file or rather what was actually said "deleting" the file so it could be rewritten by the Droid allows a fresh calibration to be made so "hopefully" the phone will read accurately with the extended batteries after it has several days to calibrate with normal use.

Since few people are patient enough to properly calibrate with full charges and full discharges, I wouldn't be surprised if this was done in the lab and everybody got the same OEM batterystats.bin file on all their phones.
So in order to get a quality calibrated batterystats.bin file now, we have to do it the right way and can't be constantly plugging, rebooting, unplugging, etc our phones before the calibration is completed.

There is a hopeful assumptions that the original "batterystats.bin" file was calibrated with the OEM battery and so now won't relearn or recalibrate with the larger capacity battery.

This may not fix the issue at all, I'm still confused as to why it would show different upon a fresh reboot, unless thats also an issue with the batterystats.bin file.

But the only other post that implied such one another poster as yourself who made assumptions without reading.

Yes, none of us like to read all the posts, but there is also a tendency to not fully read the posts we do read, which is double room for error.

Forget what the phone reads and just look at pure runtime and the battery does as it claims.... at least mine does.... three discharges in a row now, I've gotten right at about 35 hours of use.


If someone who is rooted successfully gets a good "batterystats.bin" file calibrated for the Seidio extended battery, maybe they could post it and other rooted folks could overwrite their file with it to save them a ton of hassle?

I may just be imagining things but it seems like my battery meter is doing a little better today....I will keep you posted. If anyone with seidio extended battery let me know how long after unplugging there icon goes into the red that could help me compare.

But standby for more info throughout the day, and if this works i will def share my batterystats.bin

Based on what I've read, I may be in the minority, but it usually only takes about 2-3 hours of very light usage to get into the red. In heavier usage, about an hour.

I will say this about the battery though...I charged it overnight on Thursday; unplugged Friday morning at 8:00, and it was in the red by 10:30. It stayed in the red the entire day until I put it on the charger at 10:00 last night. I probably used it more yesterday than I have in the entire time I've had the phone as well...certainly enough to drain the stock battery.

So if the batterystats.bin thing works, I may hang on to this battery.

Also, on the subject of the annoying red flashing battery light, I found something in the market called LED Hack and I was able to turn off the LED alerts. It stops all of them though, call, message, etc. That doesn't bother me, because I don't really care for the alerts. It's only for rooted phones though.

 

[windstrings]

I may just be imagining things but it seems like my battery meter is doing a little better today....I will keep you posted. If anyone with seidio extended battery let me know how long after unplugging there icon goes into the red that could help me compare.

But standby for more info throughout the day, and if this works i will def share my batterystats.bin

Good go know.... I really don't mind the blinking red light too much now other than that it confuses me to new alerts.
kinda like an early warning system.

You will prob not get accurate readings till about a week and have time to do a full charge, discharge without interruption so it calibrates.
Try not to reboot or intermittently charge or it may cause it to reset and make the present progress that discharge cycle void.

 

[windstrings]

I will say this about the battery though...I charged it overnight on Thursday; unplugged Friday morning at 8:00, and it was in the red by 10:30. It stayed in the red the entire day until I put it on the charger at 10:00 last night. I probably used it more yesterday than I have in the entire time I've had the phone as well...certainly enough to drain the stock battery.

It sure sounds like your battery is defective "or" your not getting a full charge.

Check to see if your mv reading is right below 4200mv after you charge it, if not, its not charged regardless if its the battery or the charger, if you cannot achieve that mv reading, your not charged.

Second, if you are reaching that mv after a charge and its behaving that way, I think you need a new battery...... mine goes for maybe 24 hours before I hit 15%...... thats just a rough estimate based on my memory... I haven't documented that... but its certainly not 5 hours!

 

[searayman]

Update:

So i just went to yellow icon after 8 hours 52 min 25seconds seems better

 

[solorca]

I will say this about the battery though...I charged it overnight on Thursday; unplugged Friday morning at 8:00, and it was in the red by 10:30. It stayed in the red the entire day until I put it on the charger at 10:00 last night. I probably used it more yesterday than I have in the entire time I've had the phone as well...certainly enough to drain the stock battery.

It sure sounds like your battery is defective "or" your not getting a full charge.

Check to see if your mv reading is right below 4200mv after you charge it, if not, its not charged regardless if its the battery or the charger, if you cannot achieve that mv reading, your not charged.

Second, if you are reaching that mv after a charge and its behaving that way, I think you need a new battery...... mine goes for maybe 24 hours before I hit 15%...... thats just a rough estimate based on my memory... I haven't documented that... but its certainly not 5 hours!

I'm definitely getting a full charge. I'm usually at 4180mv after a charge. The battery life is long on this, I just tend to hit the 5-10% really quickly after taking it off the charger. I'm currently at about 30 hours since charging, I've just been showing 5% for 28 of those. The battery itself seems to be fine, it just isn't showing as accurately as yours. I've only used it for about 3 cycles now, so maybe it just needs more calibration?

I'll probably try to trade it in for a new one if it doesn't get any better. 24 hours before getting to that point would be GREAT.

Do you do any kind of reboot after taking it off the charger?

 

[windstrings]

Update:

So i just went to yellow icon after 8 hours 52 min 25seconds seems better

Right now mine is 11 hours and 31 min and still green....
Battery left shows 74% with an expected total runtime of 36 hours 29min and thinks I still have 27 hours to go till dead.
Battery life shows 70%.. so does Droid system.
I'm exactly at 4000mv right now.
86 degrees F

I haven't used my phone much at all today other than about 10 short phone calls and some texting.
36% voice calls
21% display
16% cell standby
10% phone idle
7% wifi
4% android system
3% bluetooth
2% Android core apps
2% Android OS

 

[searayman]

Update:

So i just went to yellow icon after 8 hours 52 min 25seconds seems better

Right now mine is 11 hours and 31 min and still green....
Battery left shows 74% with an expected total runtime of 36 hours 29min and thinks I still have 27 hours to go till dead.
Battery life shows 70%.. so does Droid system.
I'm exactly at 4000mv right now.
86 degrees F

I haven't used my phone much at all today other than about 10 short phone calls and some texting.
36% voice calls
21% display
16% cell standby
10% phone idle
7% wifi
4% android system
3% bluetooth
2% Android core apps
2% Android OS

green on battery left widget or system icon?

 

[windstrings]

green on battery left widget or system icon?

Both... but if someone else had been using under heavier use, they may be yellow in that same time or less time.

Use has to be considered.

 

[lyrisist]

Anyone else having a "?" mark appear in the battery display? If so, can I get some advice as how to solve it. I emailed Seidio already, but I figured I would get a response a lot faster than with them. Thx for all who answer this post.

 

[windstrings]

Anyone else having a "?" mark appear in the battery display? If so, can I get some advice as how to solve it. I emailed Seidio already, but I figured I would get a response a lot faster than with them. Thx for all who answer this post.

Do you get that error or question mark with the stock battery?.. if so.. take it to verizon.. its your phone.

If not, send the battery back to Seidio and get another..... especially if you aren't getting the runtime everyone else is getting... the droid see's something wrong with it.

Have you altered the phone in any way?

 

[ham609732]

Update:

So i just went to yellow icon after 8 hours 52 min 25seconds seems better

Right now mine is 11 hours and 31 min and still green....
Battery left shows 74% with an expected total runtime of 36 hours 29min and thinks I still have 27 hours to go till dead.
Battery life shows 70%.. so does Droid system.
I'm exactly at 4000mv right now.
86 degrees F

I haven't used my phone much at all today other than about 10 short phone calls and some texting.
36% voice calls
21% display
16% cell standby
10% phone idle
7% wifi
4% android system
3% bluetooth
2% Android core apps
2% Android OS

are you using a rooted phone and deleting batterystats.bin??