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[vaeevictiss]

Actually I am well versed and know exactly what the bill entails. Could the bill allows sites like this be shutdown? Theoretically yes, but realistically it would not happen. The purpose of the bill is not to go after every little website out there or to prevent kids from posting videos of themselves singing their favorite song on YouTube as the media tries to to convince us with sensationalism.

It is not censorship. Stop drinking the kool-aid!

Android is open source. It is not copyright protected so development is perfectly legal.


Like I said, don't break the law and you have nothing to worry about.

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Theoretically, censorship and government control shouldn't have led to genocide of millions of people during the holocaust either...

It's not hard to see what happens when, and how easily it is for the govt to overstep their boundaries...when "WE THE PEOPLE" let them.

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[Abe21599]

This bill gives the government too much power, plain and simple. Something like this would drastically change the way we use the internet and something needs to be done. There's a few in congress fighting this bill because they understand what it can actually do.

 

[jntdroid]

Saying this bill will not have the impact that the media is "sensationally" saying it will is probably true - truth tends to lie in between both sides of an argument.

However, that thought process also gives the government the benefit of the doubt and assumes the best of them and the companies that enforce the DMCA stuff. Why give the government the benefit of the doubt? Why not leave the power in the hands of "the people", the way it's supposed to be? Allowing the government to have this kind of power on the premise that we simply trust them is not something I'm willing to do.

 

[firefighterguy]

This bill gives the government too much power, plain and simple. Something like this would drastically change the way we use the internet and something needs to be done. There's a few in congress fighting this bill because they understand what it can actually do.

Amen. Big Brother just got even bigger (Goliath). But we can still hit him in the head with a rock (David). Lmao!

To all who haven't read the book - especially the younger subcribers here, I suggest you read the book "1984." It will infuriate you even more. And you will see how this book was written a long time ago, and how acurate it really was.

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I hope Google and others succeed in the SOPA pretest. And I hope it leaves a bad taste in the government's mouth. And it won't taste like a SOPA-pilla
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The SOPA thing really brings home my signatures, doesn't it?
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Isn't it funny how when you put the word "The" and the word "IRS" together, it spells "theirs? " Coincidence? I think not.

 

[Juicemane]

Actually I am well versed and know exactly what the bill entails. Could the bill allows sites like this be shutdown? Theoretically yes, but realistically it would not happen. The purpose of the bill is not to go after every little website out there or to prevent kids from posting videos of themselves singing their favorite song on YouTube as the media tries to to convince us with sensationalism.

It is not censorship. Stop drinking the kool-aid!

Android is open source. It is not copyright protected so development is perfectly legal.


Like I said, don't break the law and you have nothing to worry about.

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Im sorry but you are misinformed. First of all, android is open sourced, but ROM's contain proprietary files that are the Intellectual property of the developers I.E. Motorola, HTC, LG, Etc. Modifying or repackaging their property would fall under SOPA. Read the Bill, or atleast atempt to read this What Is SOPA?

Case and point, to much power in the hands of people who are led by the almighty $.

 

[Malvado]

Can we not get too political here. Please stick to the SOPA/PIPA subject or I will have to close this thread down.

 

[fobpartisan]

This bill gives the government too much power, plain and simple. Something like this would drastically change the way we use the internet and something needs to be done. There's a few in congress fighting this bill because they understand what it can actually do.

This goverment already has to much power. They do as they please. I am 29 years old, born in the former Soviet USSR. United states goverment is a twin brother of former USSR. I sadden that you guys just dont see it. Obama signed this into law december 31st 2011 [video=youtube;8-Etw3Sbsuo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-Etw3Sbsuo[/video] Soviets did the same thing. I lived threw it. This SOPA bill is another step. Limiting the rights of citizen is working well for the goverment.

 

[Alastrionia]

Power corrupts = our current state of government (lobbyists, backhanded deals, etc)

Absolute Power corrupts absolutely = giving our government SOPA

it's a scary thought that as a people who voted these senators and house represenatives
they have turned their backs on us and instead use their power mostly for a better position for themselves.
so giving them more power is the right thing? I think not.

signed / sealed and delivered my opposition to SOPA

 

[smokiedabong]

I personally fully agree wuth PIPA and SOPA. All this talk of the internet being devastated is ridiculous. It is not about censorship! It is about piracy....a criminal offense that up until now is difficult to do anything about.

If you are not breaking laws, you would not have any negative impact from these bills. Leave it to the media to exaggerate the effects and play on people's emotions to provoke controversy.

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You clearly have no clue on how the Internet works. How is blocking IPs and websites going to stop piracy ? What is preventing anyone from using tunneling, proxy, a seed box etc. to reach outside U.S. ? If history taught us anything is that pirates will always find ways . This bill will only bring unneeded power to corporations and government to block let's say somebody who's against their interests. If you like this idea you might as well move to North Korea, you might like it there.

 

[cereal killer]

Can we not get too political here. Please stick to the SOPA/PIPA subject or I will have to close this thread down.

Ladies and Gentlemen this is a GREAT thread and we strongly encourage EVERYONE to participate and voice their opinions.

This is just a friendly reminder to please stay off of anything that may be misconstrued as being political i.e pointing the finger at the repubs or dems, this guy or that guy. As you all know that never goes well

Thank you for being considerate.............

Great topic and conversation. Keep it going.

 

[Bob Dammit]

The statement that "this site could be shut down with the flick of a switch" uses the same self fulfilling misguided nonsense that was used by people when the government wanted the ability to check backgrounds and tap into phone conversations. "Oh, that is an invasion of privacy. I don't want the givernment listening to my personal conversations with my girlfriend." Please, there are bigger fish to fry than a few sites like this dedicated to android development.

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That logic worked out great for the Germans in the 40's, didn't it? You can let legislation pass that infringes on your rights, but I'm not giving anything up quietly. If the government wants to use the bill as they like to explain it, they need to word it that way. Look at what our government has done in the last 30 years... I don't trust any of them. Censorship is censorship, end of story.

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[xeene]

if these bills will pass our country will be no different then china and north Korea. Its kind of ironic, I was born and raised in former soviet union and came to America because of the freedoms this country provides to its people. Now tables are reversing, former soviet republics are becoming more Democratic while this country is adopting more socialist idealogies. Can never win in this thing called life.

 

[DaWolf85]

Piracy aside, technical aspects aside - what about due process? Nobody's mentioned that.
This bill would allow a website to be taken down without even notifying the owner. And then, once it is taken down, they can appeal to get it back. (Also, for anybody who wants to claim this is not true - try me. I've read the bill and it clearly states this)

In America, we are innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around.

 

[jntdroid]

Piracy aside, technical aspects aside - what about due process? Nobody's mentioned that.
This bill would allow a website to be taken down without even notifying the owner. And then, once it is taken down, they can appeal to get it back. (Also, for anybody who wants to claim this is not true - try me. I've read the bill and it clearly states this)

In America, we are innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around.

I thought an amendment in December changed that to where it has to at least be court ordered?

 

[ntrddragn]

"they who give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserves neither liberty or safety." Benjamin Franklin

here you go. [h=2]US courts already enforcing SOPA-style shut-downs[/h]US courts already enforcing SOPA-style shut-downs — RT
“That kind of result wouldn't happen with real due process,”

adds the associate professor of law from Santa Clara University and administrator of the legal blog.
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btw if PIPA an SOPA would have pass i would not be able to link it since they didnt approve of it.