[Updated] Verizon To Officially Reveal Tiered Data Plans July 7th; Plans Leaked Below

[hookbill]

Why does everyone assume people with 4g are going to use more data its the same amount of data just at a faster speed .Example iI used 2gb a month with my D1 and i still use 2gb with my TB . I dont lookj at more stuff orstream more music than normal i just get it faster.

Have you done a comparison?

if you are using lets say 500kb down and 100kb up and you got to 4G and you're using 1gb down and 400kb up, that's more data.

How else would it be faster?

 

[JerseyFirefighter]

Again, these are MOBILE devices, not a replacement for your ISP. If you want to use it that way, you SHOULD be paying upwards of $80.

Way off base..$80 for 10 gbs? Youre talking about a phone company pushing their new network that can achieve 10x the amount of data transfer rate speeds then its replacement. Couple that with services like netflix and streaming hd content (which is what they advertise why LTE is so great for) and you have a data starved juggernaut.

Its like looking back 15 yrs ago and saying " a gigabyte of HD space..who would ever need that much room?" At the rate wireless tech is growing, we will be smashing these trends in no time. I seem to think when LTE becomes common place they are going to have to restructure the pricing because once people start blowing through their limits that 10gb cap is going to look like childs play. If computer tech history has taught us anything, it's looking towards the future, evolution will ALWAYS be there and it will come faster then you realize. Im comfortable with wagering that 10gbs will be somewhat of an entry level user rate by the end of 2012.

 

[joeshell20]

The biggest think that ticks me off about this is this: I purposely got unlimited "everything" on my family plan because I hate surprises. I want to know that my bill is going to be $X per month. I can appreciate that possibly prices may have to rise, but I don't want to have to worry about overage fees. Lame.

I totally agree, I use from 8-10gb a month simply because my DX is the only feasible internet connection in the area (besides dial-up). I would probably only use 1 gb on my phone if there was something else.

I would gladly pay more money for an unlimited plan than any limited plan considering that the highest plan won't even satisfy my usage.

I know I use a lot of information, but having a limited plan is just another thing for me to worry about everyday.
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This is the same problem I have as well. My choice is 3g or satellite dialup. Hell, I don't have cable or satellite tv either. Netflix on my DROIDX is the only form of tv I get out here. Can't even get a digital tv signal due to living in a valley. This tiered plan is going to force me to go back to the days of having a dumb phone in one hand and pocket pc in the other.

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[CTownDroid]

Whatever you have for data today, should be the same two, four or six years from now. As long as you don't cancel your current account, and there is no difference in price for 3G or 4G.

You people may hate Verizon, but it's not like they are crack dealers.

If I upgrade to a 4G device/plan before then can I keep my 30 unlimited and not be tiered? Running an unlimited DX @$30

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Yes, 4G does NOT cost more than 3G!

 

[kodiak799]

Again, these are MOBILE devices, not a replacement for your ISP. If you want to use it that way, you SHOULD be paying upwards of $80.

Way off base..$80 for 10 gbs?

Not off base, you are thinking about it completely wrong. The carriers pay access fees to the cable companies...What do you think would happen if people start dropping their ISP for cellular data? The cable companies will still get theirs, upping their access charges to $50 (actually a bit more) per subscriber to generate the same revenues. On top of that, VZW is still going to charge you $30....$30+$50=$80.

 

[barski]

Why does everyone assume people with 4g are going to use more data its the same amount of data just at a faster speed .Example iI used 2gb a month with my D1 and i still use 2gb with my TB . I dont lookj at more stuff orstream more music than normal i just get it faster.

I think the reason it is assumed is because the faster they get what they want the more time they have to do other stuff.

Developers will use the 4G to there advantage to by creating larger applications and games. To further explain, since the phones are getting better displays, GPU's and processors they will be able to handle bigger and better/ more technical (coding wise) games and applications. Therefore the developers will be creating larger sized apps and games.

So as the transition to 4G happens i expect users to use more and more data, but for now i don't expect much more data to be used for the average user who switches over to 4G.

 

[joeshell20]

Again, these are MOBILE devices, not a replacement for your ISP. If you want to use it that way, you SHOULD be paying upwards of $80.

Way off base..$80 for 10 gbs? Youre talking about a phone company pushing their new network that can achieve 10x the amount of data transfer rate speeds then its replacement. Couple that with services like netflix and streaming hd content (which is what they advertise why LTE is so great for) and you have a data starved juggernaut.

Its like looking back 15 yrs ago and saying " a gigabyte of HD space..who would ever need that much room?" At the rate wireless tech is growing, we will be smashing these trends in no time. I seem to think when LTE becomes common place they are going to have to restructure the pricing because once people start blowing through their limits that 10gb cap is going to look like childs play. If computer tech history has taught us anything, it's looking towards the future, evolution will ALWAYS be there and it will come faster then you realize. Im comfortable with wagering that 10gbs will be somewhat of an entry level user rate by the end of 2012.

In total agreement! I work for a school district in Texas. We just purchased more bandwidth from our provider to accommodate the addition of student tech on our network. Why would a company push a service that is supposed to sale you on buying that particular device, if they are going to limit your data usage? I know that one movie from netflix, uses up about 500mb of data. To me, your prediction about 10gb being an entry level plan by 2012 is spot on.

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[Psykho]

OK I guess I assuming for example I download a file thats lets just say 500mb its still a 500mb file no matter what speed I got it at . Like I said i used to use 2gb a month on my D1 and do all the same things i used to do on my TB and still only use 2gb . Wouldn't that be a comparison ?

 

[kodiak799]

Why does everyone assume people with 4g are going to use more data its the same amount of data just at a faster speed .Example iI used 2gb a month with my D1 and i still use 2gb with my TB . I dont lookj at more stuff orstream more music than normal i just get it faster.

Some people obviously will, but I agree with you generally. If I'm in the office or at home - about 90% of my day - I'm also closer to a much larger screen (pc, tablet or tv) where I'll watch tv or movies, browse the web.

Even at the gym I've thought about watching a show while on the stairmaster, but it just doesn't work for me. And they have tv's, anyway, so I'll just watch bits of CNN on the monitors.

When VoLTE comes, I can see use increasing significantly across the board. Apps are using more data (the WSJ app - awesome by the way - on my Ipad updates at least once or twice a day and so downloading it 3 times can chew up a few megs, per day). But you aren't going to run-up gigs and gigs of data with anything other than EXTENSIVE video and music streaming, the latter which is a bit unnecessary considering many people are walking around with oodles of mp3's on their phone.

Now, a few generations of phone from now when they have "expandable" screens that get as large as a tablet of pc then all bets are off. But even then we are really talking about replacing your ISP because no one with an ISP needs 10gigs, or probably even 5gigs, of mobile data.

 

[hookbill]

Did not one person read my post? It does use more data when you go faster. Your download speed goes up, that's more data. You upload speed goes up, that's more data. Just like my cable company, I use Road Runner Turbo for faster speeds.

I mean all you have to do is test your speed and you will see the increase in data.

 

[kodiak799]

OK I guess I assuming for example I download a file thats lets just say 500mb its still a 500mb file no matter what speed I got it at . Like I said i used to use 2gb a month on my D1 and do all the same things i used to do on my TB and still only use 2gb . Wouldn't that be a comparison ?

You're exactly correct, and it's unsurprising. Most people are arguing if speeds are better it becomes more convenient to use. While this is true, the screen size still tends to be a much larger constraint, which is why VZW never included tethering in the unlimited plan and also the reason everyone wants to tether (because it's just not that great consuming large amounts of data on a small screen).

I could burn thru a ton of data tethering LTE, but not on my phone - just isn't enjoyable watching video on such a small screen, or really even browsing (much less posting/typing extensively).

Mobile and short, spontaneous browsing/data use is how I think most people use their phone. I think it's ridiculous to believe hordes of people are going to start watching netflix movie after movie on a tiny screen. I didn't spend $5k on a home theater system to watch movies on a 4" screen.

 

[CTownDroid]

So the same content = more data? Interesting

 

[kodiak799]

Did not one person read my post? It does use more data when you go faster. Your download speed goes up, that's more data. You upload speed goes up, that's more data. Just like my cable company, I use Road Runner Turbo for faster speeds.

I mean all you have to do is test your speed and you will see the increase in data.

You're downloading faster, but for a shorter time. Your average data usage remains the same- 500megs is still 500megs. If the speed/convenience/usability leads you to consume more content, then you have a points. But as has been mentioned, screen size, not speed, is the real constraint for many people.

 

[Psykho]

Thats what I'm not understanding is why does the download or upload speed matter ? Its a faster rate no doubt but the size of what you are downloading or uploading is the same size no matter speed you do it so why does it use more data.If I'm on 4g all day at lets say the usual 20 - 35mbps speeds I get if I don't use my phone all day my data doesn't go up.

 

[Psykho]

I'm not saying you cant go through data faster I'm just saying I personally don't sit there and go WOW! that was quick maybe I should do more stuff plus I still have to look at or read whatever it is .