Verizon to drop Unlimited Data on 7/29, tiered pricing to follow?

[thexxoffspring]

by saying unlimited they mean five gigs a month...

And where do you read that at?

There is a article around here that says there is no cap. And if there was when I check my bill on the app i'd have data charges which I dont

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[hookbill]

Let's stop the name calling right now. Be respectful to one another, that is the #1 rule here at Droid Forums. That means you don't call people idiots are any other derogatory names.

If I see anymore of that I will be deleting the thread and issuing infractions, so lets stop it right now.

 

[Corinacakes]

oh please smd. if verizon didnt want me to use 10 gigs.... btw im up to 15 now.... they wouldnt of given unlimited data.

The cap is at five gigs a m

month, by saying unlimited they mean five gigs a month, reason is the 90% percent of users never exceed that amount but then there is people like you that abuse the system, we all know that tethering is not alowed " unless you pay for it", now why don't you go tap yourself on the shoulder for a job well done, the free ride is over, it

Ya you're an idiot. There is no cap on the smartphones. Only on the broadband. I'm not abusing the system I'm using what I pay for.

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Hay!!! No name calling!!! thexxoffspring you need to tell cybertek yur solly!! don't make me pull this car over!! :icon_evil:

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[kodiak799]

Those who have been tethering have been exploiting a work around. Myself and others are not sympathetic that VZW wants to start charging you. 2-5gigs is more than enough for 90% of the users, probably 99% of those who don't also tether a lot.

Nothing to do with koolaid. If it was my business, I'd do the same. The logic is very valid. As bandwidth becomes limited, it only makes sense that people using 4X the amount of data as average users should pay more.

Unlimited data is a marketing tool to draw people in. If they change, the vast majority of users won't be affected.

 

[NeoandGeo]

I pay $145 a month with 2 lines, only one with data. I use around 80 voice minutes a month, and a total of about 550 texts.

I don't care if someone cries about me using around 10GB of data a month how I please.

This proves that people like you are tricked by Verizon into thinking I am a bad user. Please stop drinking the kool-aid and get out of the trance.

 

[Rindaen]

Not good news at all , however I expected them to follow AT&T.

I had planned to switch to Verizon this month, not sure now.
I still have unlimited data with AT&T.

 

[RETG]

If unlimited data is not an available option when my contract is up, I'll switch to a carieer that still has the good sense to offer it. At almost $100 per month for 450 min and data on one line, I'm paying PLENTY as it is. I won't pay a penny more.

I will bet that within a year period, you will not have any service then. They are all going to go to it. The rest are just waiting for the bigs ones to do it first.

 

[clucernoni]

Comparing this to an ISP though is a bad analogy. Hell, I get more from my ISP: Faster internet, unlimited bandwidth, and HDTV...all for the same price. So how is it that Comcast can charge me 79.99 for all of this, but i'm paying over 80 for slower service and limited access...

It seems to me that mobile data and calling plans are in general way over priced. And if they are going to start tiering plans, saying that some of us are using more than our share, shouldn't I be allowed to drop my voice plan on my droid? I NEVER use a single minute...I use google voice to call everyone, yet I have to pay some 30 to 40 bucks for a voice plan? If they want to give people more flexibility to only pay for what they use, then let us drop the voice and ill gladly foot the bill for more data.

The reason you're paying "over $80 for slower service and limited access" is that is what Verizon is selling. You're not required to buy it. Likewise, VZW is selling cell phone service with an option for data services (and they'll subsidize your purchase of a phone as an incentive to boot. Your "30 to 40 bucks" a month helps pay off that loan they gave you.)

Frankly, as a left-wing liberal, I find it puzzling that so many people don't seem to understand how capitalism works and seem to believe that socialism (at least as far as phone service goes) is far preferable.

I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I'm not complaining about the price, I was simply showing that what we are paying doesn't match up with other similar services. I'm all for capitalism, but it would be hard to argue that VZW is hurting trying to provide these services for this price. So it has nothing to do with "We can't provide these services at these prices much longer", it's more of "We can gouge you for more money and therefore we will".

 

[sos567656765]

This thread is ridiculous since nothing has been announced.

For those who are freaking because they are rooted and have been free tethering well I hope you pay more.

For the others use wi-fi, it's free and takes less battery.

Like others you are assumeing that everyone has access to wifi or a internet connected pc. I for one don't.

That's a shame. Seriously. But I fail to see that it's relevant. You want to treat Verizon as your ISP since you apparently have no other choice. OK. That's fine. But you're going to pay for that service which is decidedly different from those of us who pay for a separate ISP connection to use the internet.

You have a legitimate complaint assuming you live somewhere that broadband access is not available. On that score, you should perhaps direct your energy toward a national strategy for expanding broadband access. Complaining that Verizon won't provide that for you, however, strikes me as misplaced.

You must have missed one of my posts. I do have internet at home I currently pay $90 a month for 100 Mb access, however I drive truck for a living and only get to be home 5 days a month. Like many others my issue is not "paying for what I use" its the thought that we may. Not have the unlimited option anymore. If/when vzw starts tiering data I will gladly continue to pay for unlimited data assumeing its not outrageously priced ($10 more a month?) And assumeing its offered

 

[baaldemon]

As bandwidth becomes limited, it only makes sense that people using 4X the amount of data as average users should pay more.

Unlimited data is a marketing tool to draw people in. If they change, the vast majority of users won't be affected.

Unfortunately you have drank the koolaid, maybe not the wireless providers koolaid but the isps koolaid. You misunderstand the bandwidth issue. Bandwidth is not equatable with energy wher it costs x for each kilowat or MB used. You see the amount it costs to transfer 1GB or 10GB is essentially the same. Because networking devices are rated at throughput rates, not total consumption rates. The problem isn't that people are transferring too much data, its that they have oversold their infrastructure so the devices cannot handle the number of clients they have. Even if they limited everyone to 100MB but all users tried to pull data at the same time they would still have bandwidth issues. That's why data caps make no sense.

What they need to implement are active connection monitors to scale back total throughput on their systems. So if a node gets overcrowded and they are reaching their total throughput limits they can scale back transfer rates until some users drop off. They is absolutely no technical reason for data limits. The costs of operating and maintaining the hardware whether it is fully utilized or very under utilized is essentially the same. Data utilization is not the problem, the issue is that they have oversold their infrastructure without updating their hardware to handle the total number of customers.

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[JCo352]

Is Verizon charging for this Kool-aid? And if so how much are they charging?

 

[kodiak799]

its that they have oversold their infrastructure so the devices cannot handle the number of clients they have. Even if they limited everyone to 100MB but all users tried to pull data at the same time they would still have bandwidth issues. That's why data caps make no sense.

That's the relevant and correct thinking out of what you posted.

What does "oversold" their infrastructure mean? Would you prefer they auction capacity? The fact is, everyone DOESN'T use the bandwidth at the same time and it's only logical that if people are using 4X the amount of other people, more of those types of users are going to create problems for others. So either they pay for it, or are discouraged from doing so by higher prices.

It has NOTHING to do with koolaid. People are always well served to pick-up an economics text book. Let's say they have 100 blocks of availability. Based on ordinary use, let's say they can actually sell 400 blocks with no service problems. Now, do the math if you sell to people who use 4 blocks vs. 1 block.

 

[RETG]

People can complain all they want. However, it is the future. You will have a few choices in the future.
1. Leave Verizon, but chances are the same or similar tier will be at a new provider. Maybe some of those smaller providers will not follow suit, but then you will not have the same coverage in most areas in the USA.
2. Stay and pay the price.
3. Drop your usage. Spend less time on the phone and more time getting outdoors.dancedroid
3. Throw the phone in the drawer and go back to the days when land lines were the only means of communication.

Verizon as well as the other companies are in business to make a profit. Their costs for equipment, land leases, employees, benefits, etc., go up every year. They are then forced to raise their rates to pay these higher costs and to still make a darn good profit for their share holders. Failure to do so results in cuts in service and then eventually out of business sales.

I would imagine they are paying a high price to go LTE, who do you think is going to pay for this? We are and if we want good service, faster speeds, new ideas, then we have to pay.

And by the way, to those who are name calling, I have to ask, would you do that in person, or only via the internet? Just a rhetorical question since I know the answer and I will not be visiting this thread anymore. When the name calling starts, I figure the thread has degenerated into a kindergarten atmosphere, something I can do without.

Now, how do I turn off that Instant Notification request....:icon_evil:

 

[kodiak799]

Is Verizon charging for this Kool-aid? And if so how much are they charging?

What I'm hearing is a whole lot of whining from people who have been taking advantage of the system tethering and the like.

10+ gigs a month? That's ridiculous. If I were to replace my home broadband with this, I'd fully expect to pay more than $30 a month and would not consider it the least bit unfair.

 

[timo1456]

Time to change providers. I wonder how easy it is to go over the data limit? Will you even notice a cap?

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