VZW disabling tethering apps from market

[johall07]

It's irrelevant (and also I'd make a distinction from reserving the right to stop abuse vs. an automatic and pre-determined "limit" on unlimited).

You have unlimited data ON YOUR PHONE. There's no gray area, tethering is expressly excluded. It IS, in fact, unlimited data on your phone. There are no semantics within the context as stated in the TOS. People want to broaden that context and they have no leg to stand on.

I mean, if I take my phone to Canada I don't have free unlimited data. Same difference. It's unlimited data subject to restrictions, in this case geography while tethering restricts devices.

I hear and understand everything your saying. I guess my thing is that I think they should do away with the term unlimited and let everyone know up front just exactly what they're getting. And not just in the fine print. In regards to your canada analogy doesn't verizon have a calling plan that very directly states its for canada users? And you don't have to look for the fine print. Its listed very distinctly with all the other plans

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So you're telling me that the tether-ers when signing up for their CELLPHONE plan, honestly thought that their CELLPHONE plan included Verizon as a replacement for their ISP? They were essentially in the market for an ISP and for cell service and figured "hey i can kill two birds with one stone this way!!"...gimme a break.

Anyone who tries to argue that they weren't told upfront that their data plan didn't include a replacement for their ISP is a moron, straight up.

who said replacement for there ISP......what if im away on business and dont wanna use the hotel's internet......it isnt your cellphone plan either it's your DATA plan that you pay 29.99 for separately from your cellphone plan

 

[czerdrill]

I hear and understand everything your saying. I guess my thing is that I think they should do away with the term unlimited and let everyone know up front just exactly what they're getting. And not just in the fine print. In regards to your canada analogy doesn't verizon have a calling plan that very directly states its for canada users? And you don't have to look for the fine print. Its listed very distinctly with all the other plans

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So you're telling me that the tether-ers when signing up for their CELLPHONE plan, honestly thought that their CELLPHONE plan included Verizon as a replacement for their ISP? They were essentially in the market for an ISP and for cell service and figured "hey i can kill two birds with one stone this way!!"...gimme a break.

Anyone who tries to argue that they weren't told upfront that their data plan didn't include a replacement for their ISP is a moron, straight up.

who said replacement for there ISP......what if im away on business and dont wanna use the hotel's internet......it isnt your cellphone plan either it's your DATA plan that you pay 29.99 for separately from your cellphone plan

smartphone data plan is how they are advertised. not "data plan" with no accompanying materials. There are clear restrictions, a clear acceptable use policy, and clear guidelines on how you can be terminated if you violate any portion of it.

an ISP is a company that provides access to the internet. If you're using verizon 3g at the hotel to tether your laptop to get online, verizon is your ISP. It doesn't mean you have to be sitting at home in order for it to be an ISP...

 

[kodiak799]

Anyone who tries to argue that they weren't told upfront that their data plan didn't include a replacement for their ISP is a moron, straight up.

What?!? Are you saying that getting cellphone data PLUS saving $20 on internet by dropping home broadband was a deal I should have known too good to be true?

 

[km75]

Well if that's the case why don't they just go ahead and start telling us our unlimited calling is capped at 1000 calls?

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It's irrelevant (and also I'd make a distinction from reserving the right to stop abuse vs. an automatic and pre-determined "limit" on unlimited).

You have unlimited data ON YOUR PHONE. There's no gray area, tethering is expressly excluded. It IS, in fact, unlimited data on your phone. There are no semantics within the context as stated in the TOS. People want to broaden that context and they have no leg to stand on.

I mean, if I take my phone to Canada I don't have free unlimited data. Same difference. It's unlimited data subject to restrictions, in this case geography while tethering restricts devices.

And yet verizon has a plan geared toward canada users and you don't have to look at the fine print to see it. Its right there on clear display next to all the other plans. Maybe they should just start saying up front exactly what you're getting and do away with the term unlimited

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[czerdrill]

Anyone who tries to argue that they weren't told upfront that their data plan didn't include a replacement for their ISP is a moron, straight up.

What?!? Are you saying that getting cellphone data PLUS saving $20 on internet by dropping home broadband was a deal I should have known too good to be true?

I know...ridiculous concept that you have to pay separately for an ISP right? Verizon is a pack of thieves!

 

[czerdrill]

Well if that's the case why don't they just go ahead and start telling us our unlimited calling is capped at 1000 calls?

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It's irrelevant (and also I'd make a distinction from reserving the right to stop abuse vs. an automatic and pre-determined "limit" on unlimited).

You have unlimited data ON YOUR PHONE. There's no gray area, tethering is expressly excluded. It IS, in fact, unlimited data on your phone. There are no semantics within the context as stated in the TOS. People want to broaden that context and they have no leg to stand on.

I mean, if I take my phone to Canada I don't have free unlimited data. Same difference. It's unlimited data subject to restrictions, in this case geography while tethering restricts devices.

And yet verizon has a plan geared toward canada users and you don't have to look at the fine print to see it. Its right there on clear display next to all the other plans. Maybe they should just start saying up front exactly what you're getting and do away with the term unlimited

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I guess VZW gave their customers the benefit of the doubt..."There's no way this can be misconstrued to mean unlimited data for every device on the planet that you can think of, Bob!"...guess they have to realize that their customers clearly are not as smart as they thought they were.

 

[kodiak799]

And yet verizon has a plan geared toward canada users and you don't have to look at the fine print to see it. Its right there on clear display next to all the other plans. Maybe they should just start saying up front exactly what you're getting and do away with the term unlimited

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Actually, the tether and mobile broadband plans are far more blatant and obvious than the special Canada calling plan. At one time, the Canada plan was not shown online and could only be added/subtracted by calling customer service.

 

[dfuser312553]

Still tethering. You guys keep pimping the TOS as if you follow it & labeling people childish. It's funny.

 

[kodiak799]

Still tethering. You guys keep pimping the TOS as if you follow it & labeling people childish. It's funny.

And I'm sure if VZW ever backcharges you a few thousands dollars you will be mature and simply say "you got me, here's your check" without incident?

 

[km75]

It's irrelevant (and also I'd make a distinction from reserving the right to stop abuse vs. an automatic and pre-determined "limit" on unlimited).

You have unlimited data ON YOUR PHONE. There's no gray area, tethering is expressly excluded. It IS, in fact, unlimited data on your phone. There are no semantics within the context as stated in the TOS. People want to broaden that context and they have no leg to stand on.

I mean, if I take my phone to Canada I don't have free unlimited data. Same difference. It's unlimited data subject to restrictions, in this case geography while tethering restricts devices.

And yet verizon has a plan geared toward canada users and you don't have to look at the fine print to see it. Its right there on clear display next to all the other plans. Maybe they should just start saying up front exactly what you're getting and do away with the term unlimited

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I guess VZW gave their customers the benefit of the doubt..."There's no way this can be misconstrued to mean unlimited data for every device on the planet that you can think of, Bob!"...guess they have to realize that their customers clearly are not as smart as they thought they were.

Not every device on the planet. Just MY phone and MY laptop. In any event as long as I can do it I will. Glad to see you're intelligence level is higher than mine. If verizon ever questions me about tethering I will be sure to cop to stupidity my non tethering brethren

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[czerdrill]

Still tethering. You guys keep pimping the TOS as if you follow it & labeling people childish. It's funny.

question...when you tether do you also activate the throttle mod for "double the dl speeds!!!"?

...waiting for you to whine, say "unsubscribed" and leave this thread....like you always do...

 

[czerdrill]

And yet verizon has a plan geared toward canada users and you don't have to look at the fine print to see it. Its right there on clear display next to all the other plans. Maybe they should just start saying up front exactly what you're getting and do away with the term unlimited

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I guess VZW gave their customers the benefit of the doubt..."There's no way this can be misconstrued to mean unlimited data for every device on the planet that you can think of, Bob!"...guess they have to realize that their customers clearly are not as smart as they thought they were.

Not every device on the planet. Just MY phone and MY laptop. In any event as long as I can do it I will. Glad to see you're intelligence level is higher than mine. If verizon ever questions me about tethering I will be sure to cop to stupidity my non tethering brethren

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i guess you people who tether just love to nitpick huh? now i gotta re-examine my giving you the benefit of the doubt. "there's no way they could think when i say "every device on the planet" that i literally meant "every device on the planet", right Bob??"...guess not.

 

[km75]

It's irrelevant (and also I'd make a distinction from reserving the right to stop abuse vs. an automatic and pre-determined "limit" on unlimited).

You have unlimited data ON YOUR PHONE. There's no gray area, tethering is expressly excluded. It IS, in fact, unlimited data on your phone. There are no semantics within the context as stated in the TOS. People want to broaden that context and they have no leg to stand on.

I mean, if I take my phone to Canada I don't have free unlimited data. Same difference. It's unlimited data subject to restrictions, in this case geography while tethering restricts devices.

I hear and understand everything your saying. I guess my thing is that I think they should do away with the term unlimited and let everyone know up front just exactly what they're getting. And not just in the fine print. In regards to your canada analogy doesn't verizon have a calling plan that very directly states its for canada users? And you don't have to look for the fine print. Its listed very distinctly with all the other plans

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So you're telling me that the tether-ers when signing up for their CELLPHONE plan, honestly thought that their CELLPHONE plan included Verizon as a replacement for their ISP? They were essentially in the market for an ISP and for cell service and figured "hey i can kill two birds with one stone this way!!"...gimme a break.

Anyone who tries to argue that they weren't told upfront that their data plan didn't include a replacement for their ISP is a moron, straight up.

A MORON would assume that a person that tethers automatically abuses it. FYI I originally had easy tether. And though it was at my disposal and still is I very rarely use. By the way I also had the 20 mobile hotspot which I used a lot more often than the easy tether.But I like having the option to. I just rooted my phone yesterday so yes I now have wifi tether. Yes even a moron can root a phone apparently. So stop making assumptions. Some of us like to have options. Feel free to limit yourself as much as your wireless carrier does

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[hookbill]

czerdrill and poontab. Here's what you guys need to do. czerdrill you visit poontab's page. Look around for the ignore button. Press it. Poontab you should do the same with czerdrill.

Then you won't see each other at all and the Forum will be a much nicer place not only for you but for the moderators and members too.

 

[czerdrill]

I hear and understand everything your saying. I guess my thing is that I think they should do away with the term unlimited and let everyone know up front just exactly what they're getting. And not just in the fine print. In regards to your canada analogy doesn't verizon have a calling plan that very directly states its for canada users? And you don't have to look for the fine print. Its listed very distinctly with all the other plans

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So you're telling me that the tether-ers when signing up for their CELLPHONE plan, honestly thought that their CELLPHONE plan included Verizon as a replacement for their ISP? They were essentially in the market for an ISP and for cell service and figured "hey i can kill two birds with one stone this way!!"...gimme a break.

Anyone who tries to argue that they weren't told upfront that their data plan didn't include a replacement for their ISP is a moron, straight up.

A MORON would assume that a person that tethers automatically abuses it. FYI I originally had easy tether. And though it was at my disposal and still is I very rarely use. By the way I also had the 20 mobile hotspot which I used a lot more often than the easy tether.But I like having the option to. I just rooted my phone yesterday so yes I now have wifi tether. Yes even a moron can root a phone apparently. So stop making assumptions. Some of us like to have options. Feel free to limit yourself as much as your wireless carrier does

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where did i assume that everyone that tethers abuses it? obviously the only people who are screaming "data is data!!" and "unlimited!!!!!" are the ones that are tethering it. I thought it was pretty clear that those are the people I'm talking to...sorry I didn't hold your hand while you read my post...

"Feel free to limit yourself as much as your wireless carrier does"...you mean, not knowingly break the contract i signed? Ok...i will. Feel free to whine like a child cuz you don't get your way.