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VZW disabling tethering apps from market

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To be honest, ISPs don't provide unlimited bandwidth either, and never have. Every ISP has an AUP and every AUP mentions the prohibition of using excessive bandwidth. There is no such thing as unlimited bandwidth. The reason why ISP bandwidth appears "unlimited" (moreso than mobile) is because your bandwidth allotment, is as you mentioned, in the range of 250GB a month, which is a huge amount. But it's not unlimited.

If there was a way for android users to steal service from their ISPs and go over 250GB a month, they'd be whining about comcast, and time warner not providing unlimited bandwidth too

not true at all. my isp does not limit usage or throttle bandwith in any way shape or form. it the main reason i am with them.

To be clear, Sonic.net has no plans to impose usage caps on our customers.
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We will have to see in the future. Stop being upset that I am doing what I want with my phone, and using it to its fullest extent while paying as little as possible. dancedroid
Upset? Not at all. Then again, it won't matter if Sprint goes tiered right? Because "they will have violated my contract" and "I'll just move to landline", right? LOL...jokes. The justifications are hilarious.
 
Charter is a good company to be with currently also. They have a 250GB soft cap for my plan, but I routinely go between 400-600GB a month and never hear a word.
 
We will have to see in the future. Stop being upset that I am doing what I want with my phone, and using it to its fullest extent while paying as little as possible. dancedroid
Upset? Not at all. Then again, it won't matter if Sprint goes tiered right? Because "they will have violated my contract" and "I'll just move to landline", right? LOL...jokes. The justifications are hilarious.

That's why I said we will see in the future. For years I have been able to do what I want, and for the forseeable future, it will continue. Let me know when something changes.
 
for all those who took the spectrum guidelines and ran away with it...exactly what kodiak, freezyfreaky and I stated....keep reaching...

Google starts blocking access to Android tethering apps

This merely states that google sided with them, that doesn't mean that google was in the right here. Just because a company does something doesn't make it right or lawful. Google is known for pushing the limits with certain things (i.e. the wifi capturing). Plus this article only states what is already known, that they were removing the apps from the marketplace, that doesn't say you can't side-load them or root and get them that way also. Merely saying they won't be in the marketplace. There is amazon's marketplace also which already has easytether in it, do you think pdanet won't follow, or any other tether program that is removed from google's marketplace?

Unfortunately verizon has no legs to stand on in this, they knew exactly what they were getting into when they signed the contract for the 4g spectrum. This is the express reason why they would go to tiered pricing. While this type of contract most likely does not exist for their 3g network, because if it did everyone would know about it, it does exist for their 4g. Which is why they are moving from unlimited to tiered. This is their only recourse to the contract they signed. It's not because verizon's network would be hurt, it's because their pocketbooks would be. They make millions off selling their tethering plan and don't want to give it up. That is their right as a company to do so, while i may not agree with them, it is nonetheless their right.
 
We will have to see in the future. Stop being upset that I am doing what I want with my phone, and using it to its fullest extent while paying as little as possible. dancedroid
Upset? Not at all. Then again, it won't matter if Sprint goes tiered right? Because "they will have violated my contract" and "I'll just move to landline", right? LOL...jokes. The justifications are hilarious.

That's why I said we will see in the future. For years I have been able to do what I want, and for the forseeable future, it will continue. Let me know when something changes.

It's already changing...you're considering moving to another carrier just so you can keep tethering.

when sprint, undoubtedly, moves to tiered plans where will you move to next? not sure why you think nothing has changed...but ok.
 
I actually hope that Verizon goes to tiered only pricing, and allow users to go with an IP only solution. I pay $50 for minutes I don't even use. Why can't I pay Verizon $10 per GB and let me do whatever I want?
 
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Tethering is neither mentioned, nor alluded to in verizon's customer agreement.

Yes it is, in the data plan TOS:

Data Plans & Features - Terms & Conditions - Verizon Wireless Support

+1 for finding it!
I tried but could not locate it on Verizon's site.

Short url: http://tinyurl.com/vzwtos1

Did those Verizon attorneys copy and paste some stuff from AT&T's TOS? :)

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for all those who took the spectrum guidelines and ran away with it...exactly what kodiak, freezyfreaky and I stated....keep reaching...

Google starts blocking access to Android tethering apps

This merely states that google sided with them, that doesn't mean that google was in the right here. Just because a company does something doesn't make it right or lawful. Google is known for pushing the limits with certain things (i.e. the wifi capturing). Plus this article only states what is already known, that they were removing the apps from the marketplace, that doesn't say you can't side-load them or root and get them that way also. Merely saying they won't be in the marketplace. There is amazon's marketplace also which already has easytether in it, do you think pdanet won't follow, or any other tether program that is removed from google's marketplace?

Unfortunately verizon has no legs to stand on in this, they knew exactly what they were getting into when they signed the contract for the 4g spectrum. This is the express reason why they would go to tiered pricing. While this type of contract most likely does not exist for their 3g network, because if it did everyone would know about it, it does exist for their 4g. Which is why they are moving from unlimited to tiered. This is their only recourse to the contract they signed. It's not because verizon's network would be hurt, it's because their pocketbooks would be. They make millions off selling their tethering plan and don't want to give it up. That is their right as a company to do so, while i may not agree with them, it is nonetheless their right.

What it actually states is:

"This compliance by Google has come as a big surprise for some because it skirts the edge of licensing conditions for keeping applications and handsets open on the C Block spectrum Verizon uses for its LTE network. In fact, Google is remembered for pushing the price of the C Block spectrum sale up past $4.6 billion in order to ensure those licensing conditions would be in place. The conditions state devices and apps can’t be blocked from using the C Block through a service. However, the app blockage is allowed as Verizon isn’t blocking access to any devices, just ensuring any such devices pay for an appropriate data plan. Google on the other hand is complying with a carrier request, not directly breaking the licensing conditions."


So as mentioned by others and myself, the spectrum guideline doesn't apply because Verizon/Google are not doing anything to block access to devices, but rather wanting to get paid for their services (crazy concept, right?)


Sure, someone can take it to court...but those people are the ones with no leg to stand on. I think people see something and start running away with it, till its disproved, then they scramble to find the next justification. I've said it before and I'll say it again.



Verizon/Google are not mom and pop organizations. While that doesn't mean they're infallible, trust me their legal teams look at everything before a new policy is instituted. It's not some dude in a conference room clicking OK without consulting anyone. I highly doubt Verizon/Google are worried about the spectrum guidelines, and they are within the guidelines.
 
Tethering is neither mentioned, nor alluded to in verizon's customer agreement.

Yes it is, in the data plan TOS:

Data Plans & Features - Terms & Conditions - Verizon Wireless Support

+1 for finding it!
I tried but could not locate it on Verizon's site.

Short url: Data Plans & Features - Terms & Conditions - Verizon Wireless Support

Did those Verizon attorneys copy and paste some stuff from AT&T's TOS? :)

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haha seems that way right...
 
To be honest, ISPs don't provide unlimited bandwidth either, and never have. Every ISP has an AUP and every AUP mentions the prohibition of using excessive bandwidth. There is no such thing as unlimited bandwidth. The reason why ISP bandwidth appears "unlimited" (moreso than mobile) is because your bandwidth allotment, is as you mentioned, in the range of 250GB a month, which is a huge amount. But it's not unlimited.

If there was a way for android users to steal service from their ISPs and go over 250GB a month, they'd be whining about comcast, and time warner not providing unlimited bandwidth too

not true at all. my isp does not limit usage or throttle bandwith in any way shape or form. it the main reason i am with them.

To be clear, Sonic.net has no plans to impose usage caps on our customers.
Sonic.net CEO Blog

Well...it's sonic.net. Of course they can offer "unlimited" bandwidth. They're a local small company with 40,000 or so customers...not exactly a big name when compared relatively with other ISPs.

They are growing fast, believe me they will be rewriting their policies as they grow...
 
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