VZW disabling tethering apps from market

[czerdrill]

No you're right. That's why I mentioned earlier that they have no incentive to include tethering in a tiered plan, because they have their ridiculous plans already in place. When I said "dropping the ball" I meant, they came out and explicitly said the droid cant do tethering/hotspot, and the devs showed that it could, so now they're scrambling to figure out how to stop it. I personally don't see them offering tethering as included in any tier simply because they'll be undercutting themselves.

Personally, I think they are scrambling because of LTE, especially the way they promoted hotspot. I don't think tether, outside of a small % of abusers, is much of an issue on the 3G network. It's just too slow for anyone that can afford home broadband to bother with. Heck, my phone average maybe 700kbps, and tether only peaks at about half that (probably averages like 120).

If you look at AT&T, pretty much the same story. They started getting aggressive around the time of HSUPA and the Atrix. Sprint is apparently ready to end unlimited mobile broadband on Wimax.

ha i would think so too, but people actually do play xbox and ps3 while tethered. i guess i wouldnt know because i've never tried it, but the ps3 has plenty lag when its wired directly to the modem...i can't imagine the lag if you're tethering through a 3g network lol.

yeah 4g is definitely a reason for the scramble also, and of course thats why they're moving to tiers.

 

[NeoandGeo]

Users may be connecting and downloading things off the PSN and Live, but they definitely aren't playing anything besides Uno with the lag, latency, and sub 1Mbps DL/UL. Haha.

You might get away with playing non-PVP WoW or something.

 

[czerdrill]

Users may be connecting and downloading things off the PSN and Live, but they definitely aren't playing anything besides Uno with the lag, latency, and sub 1Mbps DL/UL. Haha.

You might get away with playing non-PVP WoW or something.

haha oh ok, i guess that makes more sense. i coulda sworn people were saying they were playing call of duty while tethered...that sounds like a nightmare.

 

[NeoandGeo]

My friend tried some RDR online, and it was similar or worse than the experience would have probably been on 56k

 

[Natey2]

My recommendation to the Carriers:
Change pricing structure for your data plan.

Here is the new formula:
(you can refer to this as the Natey2 pricing model for Smartphone data)

F = C * GB^2

F is the monthly fee to be charged,
C is the connection speed coefficient, with 3G being 1.0, and 4G being 1.5,
GB is the amount of data transferred by user.

So, someone using 2GB on 3G will pay 1 x 2 x 2 , or $4 for that month.

On 4G, that would cost 1.5 x 2 x 2 , or $6 for the month.

And that guy using 20GB on 3G will pay $400 for the month.


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[bishoy]

And that guy using 20GB on 3G will pay $400 for the month.

dont you mean $40?

 

[kodiak799]

So, someone using 2GB on 3G will pay 1 x 2 x 2 , or $4 for that month.

$4 for 2gigs, huh? Planning on going to Sprint (or perhaps you work there or own stock), because that will put VZW out of business.

 

[Natey2]

And that guy using 20GB on 3G will pay $400 for the month.

dont you mean $40?

20 x 20 = 400

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[czerdrill]

My recommendation to the Carriers:
Change pricing structure for your data plan.

Here is the new formula:
(you can refer to this as the Natey2 pricing model for Smartphone data)

F = C * GB^2

F is the monthly fee to be charged,
C is the connection speed coefficient, with 3G being 1.0, and 4G being 1.5,
GB is the amount of data transferred by user.

So, someone using 2GB on 3G will pay 1 x 2 x 2 , or $4 for that month.

On 4G, that would cost 1.5 x 2 x 2 , or $6 for the month.

And that guy using 20GB on 3G will pay $400 for the month.


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sounds good to me lol, problem is that takes a way a huuge chunk of verizon's revenue since the overwhelming majority don't use 2GB a month and verizon is charging them $30/month for that lol. I doubt their low tier would be as low as $4/month....it'll probably follow close to AT&T and be a negligible amount for like $10-$15 bucks and then a more reasonable allotment for like $25 bucks. Verizon is not going to give away data for $4/month.

 

[kodiak799]

Verizon is not going to give away data for $4/month.

I think someone estimated they pay the pipe owners something like $3.67 per user. That leaves them $0.33 per user for all their tower/infrastructure costs and other overhead. The federal govt might charge $4 for 2gigs, but VZW is in the business of making money.

Haha, $15 for 250megs....Tether to your heart's content!

 

[Natey2]

So, someone using 2GB on 3G will pay 1 x 2 x 2 , or $4 for that month.

$4 for 2gigs, huh? Planning on going to Sprint (or perhaps you work there or own stock), because that will put VZW out of business.

The plan is designed to encourage more users who don't have a data plan to use (a little of) it, while discouraging bandwidth hogging by the masses.

Under this new plan, the Carriers will gladly welcome tethering of any kind

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[czerdrill]

So, someone using 2GB on 3G will pay 1 x 2 x 2 , or $4 for that month.

$4 for 2gigs, huh? Planning on going to Sprint (or perhaps you work there or own stock), because that will put VZW out of business.

The plan is designed to encourage more users who don't have a data plan to use (a little of) it, while discouraging bandwidth hogging by the masses.

Under this new plan, the Carriers will gladly welcome tethering of any kind

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and tethering is included? lol, no way, no how. They would essentially be giving away their services...

 

[kodiak799]

The plan is designed to encourage more users who don't have a data plan to use (a little of) it, while discouraging bandwidth hogging by the masses.

Under this new plan, the Carriers will gladly welcome tethering of any kind

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The plan would be much more linear. VZW doesn't really care if $10 of marginal revenue comes from a user's 100th gig or another user's 1st gig. So long as they get paid, and with unlimited plans the heavy user doesn't pay their share.

 

[xan]

The plan is designed to encourage more users who don't have a data plan to use (a little of) it, while discouraging bandwidth hogging by the masses.

Under this new plan, the Carriers will gladly welcome tethering of any kind

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The plan would be much more linear. VZW doesn't really care if $10 of marginal revenue comes from a user's 100th gig or another user's 1st gig. So long as they get paid, and with unlimited plans the heavy user doesn't pay their share.

While the light users pay for the hogs.

 

[kodiak799]

While the light users pay for the hogs.

Only on unlimited plans that aren't metered.