Where is z4root?

[draneo]

You will get the updates regardless....just don't install them until you un-freeze the bloatware and un-root.

Sent from my Droid X

 

[furbearingmammal]

Ok I got it up and running. Now how do I make sure that I don't get automatic updates?

Sent from my DROIDX using DroidForums App

Install a ROM.

 

[nvusmcsgt]

Newbie here. Now that I have installed the Z4 root, does this include the updates that Verizon has recently sent out or do I have to get those someplace else? Any info would be great.

 

[furbearingmammal]

All that z4root does is root your device and install Busybox. Nothing more, nothing less. It does not include any updates, nor will it, and it doesn't seem like it'll be updated to root the 83D. If you want the updates you have two options; install a custom recovery image (I have instructions) or update and reroot using link 2 in my sig. I'm going to suggest that simply because it installs a custom recovery image which allows you to ROM and theme and whatnot at a later date AND the only other option is to hook your phone up to a computer anyway.

 

[jimisbell]

OK, none of this is EXACTLY like by problem.

I have a Droid X

I carefully documented each step in a notebook so I KNOW what I actually did instead of having to try to remember it all.

I first rooted with z4root. Simple download from "Market" and one click. Then I installed Droid bootstrap and Titanium and ROM Manager (which downloaded Clockwork Recovery).

Then I used ROM Manager to back up the Motorola ROM and saved it to "Stock ROM". Unfortunately I have no idea WHERE it was saved!! I know the name, but not the place!!!

Then I installed RUMMY 1.0 on the ROM and it was working fine. But I wasnt satisfied...just had to screw with it....and tried flashing the Ultimate Droid ROM.

Now the s**t hits the fan.

The Untimate Droid flash didnt work and locked up the phone in a boot loop. I got that stopped and the RUMMY 1.0 re installed (and it is working fine now) but lost some files along the way. One of the lost files was z4root. So now I cannot unroot. And at this point I discover it is no longer available on the "Market" so I am totally screwed if I have to take the phone mack to Verizon....right?

I did get registered with XDA but following their directions to get z4root reinstalled just isnt working.

BUT...even if I could un root I cannot find the original ROM so that I could reinstall it (before un rooting of course) Clockwork Recovery will allow me to install Ultimate Droid and RUMMY 1.0 as both are shown as ZIP files on the SD, but the location of "Stock ROM" does not appear on the SD...maybe its somewhere else?? Can I use Clockwork recovery to re install the OEM ROM even if I actually find it?

So it looks like everything is fine as long as I dont ever have a problem and need to deal with Verizon.

But I really would like to know how to get from where I am back to un rooted with the OEM ROM in place just in case I someday need to deal with Verizon on an hardware level!!!

Also, I have a friend that wants to root his new DX but I am hesitant to recommend z4root with this much baggage attached!! Is there a better way?:icon_rolleyes:

 

[furbearingmammal]

SBF and factory reset to unroot.

Link in my sig for manual rooting. Superoneclick. The baggage you talk about comes from wiping your phone and not having the .apk backed up via Titanium Backup. Also, now that you have the XDA link you always have access to the .apk. The problem you ran into with Ultimate Droid is typical of Ultimate Droid on the X.

 

[jimisbell]

OK, you are talking to a dummy when it comes to phones. I have 40+ years as a programmer and computer designer, but when it comes to phones, I KNOW NOTHING as the camp guard in Hogans Heroes always said.....

WHAT is SBF?

Sure wish I had known about Ultimate Droid before spending 4 hours fixing the phone! But now I will erase the ZIP before I accidentally do it again!!!

Thanks.

 

[furbearingmammal]

No problem.

SBF stands for whatever you want it to. In the Motorola world, however, it's a file you flash onto your phone to restore the software to (unless it's a custom-built SBF) stock. You need to know what version of Blur you're running (system software/bootloader) so you can flash it onto your phone. Hacking the X/2/variants isn't quite as straightforward as hacking a D1 or even most HTC phones.

 

[xixgrimmxix]

My backups save to /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/

Droid x I have played with and figured they have a lil different file placement setup.

Z4root on www.software2tech.com is always kept up to date good its free n easy to get from there

<Rooted droid ally>
>> velocity 0.3 <<
>>running turbo4<<

 

[jimisbell]

No problem.
SBF stands for whatever you want it to. In the Motorola world, however, it's a file you flash onto your phone to restore the software to (unless it's a custom-built SBF) stock. You need to know what version of Blur you're running (system software/bootloader) so you can flash it onto your phone. Hacking the X/2/variants isn't quite as straightforward as hacking a D1 or even most HTC phones.

I went through your procedure (step 1A) for rooting the DX and have some suggestions. I have 40+ years of experience in computers so I was able to figure it out but I think three things would have made it clearer for a newby.

First, when I downloaded rageagainsethecage by clicking on it, it did not end up in the directory /sdcard/download and I couldnt find it...until I did a search and found it in sdcard/tapatakldroidforums_download. Maybe that was unique to my phone?? I moved it to /sdcard/download and then followed the directions.

Second, I would add the 7th "dotted" procedure, "Exit Astro". Yes maybe one should assume that, but a newby might not assume that and I am a stickler for detail, in programming, where a missed " " can cause problems.

Third, I would add a step before step #1 (step 0???) "Open Terminal"...same comments as above.

I only went as far as step #6 because my DX is already rooted but I wanted to test the "road home" if I ever had to do it without z4root.

#7 through #14 look straight enough...lucky for me I program in linux sometimes.

Getting Astro was a great idea. I had a couple of file handling Apps on the phone but they were inadequate for this job, I didnt know about Astro.

Now can I UNROOT the phone by doing the steps 7-14 in reverse or is there more to it?

I am guessing that SBF stands for S<omething> Boot File?
But what is important, where does one get a Stock Motorola SBF to prepare the phone for a return to Verizon if needed be?

 

[furbearingmammal]

My backups save to /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/

Droid x I have played with and figured they have a lil different file placement setup.

Z4root on Software2Tech.com is always kept up to date good its free n easy to get from there

<Rooted droid ally>
>> velocity 0.3 <<
>>running turbo4<<

Get it from the source; here:

[APP] z4root - xda-developers

 

[furbearingmammal]

No problem.
SBF stands for whatever you want it to. In the Motorola world, however, it's a file you flash onto your phone to restore the software to (unless it's a custom-built SBF) stock. You need to know what version of Blur you're running (system software/bootloader) so you can flash it onto your phone. Hacking the X/2/variants isn't quite as straightforward as hacking a D1 or even most HTC phones.

I went through your procedure (step 1A) for rooting the DX and have some suggestions. I have 40+ years of experience in computers so I was able to figure it out but I think three things would have made it clearer for a newby.

Not my thread, but I do work on it.

First, when I downloaded rageagainsethecage by clicking on it, it did not end up in the directory /sdcard/download and I couldnt find it...until I did a search and found it in sdcard/tapatakldroidforums_download. Maybe that was unique to my phone?? I moved it to /sdcard/download and then followed the directions.

You downloaded from the DF app and not the browser. The app didn't exist when the method was developed. I'll make a suggestion to the thread's creator, thanks.

Second, I would add the 7th "dotted" procedure, "Exit Astro". Yes maybe one should assume that, but a newby might not assume that and I am a stickler for detail, in programming, where a missed " " can cause problems.

Honestly, if a noob can't figure out to leave Astro before typing into terminal then they probably shouldn't be rooting their phone for any number of reasons. However, I'll make note of that in the message I'll give to the OP.

Third, I would add a step before step #1 (step 0???) "Open Terminal"...same comments as above.

The line before that says to type it into Terminal Emulator; same deal as above.

I only went as far as step #6 because my DX is already rooted but I wanted to test the "road home" if I ever had to do it without z4root.

#7 through #14 look straight enough...lucky for me I program in linux sometimes.

Getting Astro was a great idea. I had a couple of file handling Apps on the phone but they were inadequate for this job, I didnt know about Astro.

Astro is the file manager. Everyone on the Rescue Squad recommends it for every user because it's the best way to access your SD card for non-rooted users, and for rooted users like myself who don't use Root Explorer it's invaluable.

Now can I UNROOT the phone by doing the steps 7-14 in reverse or is there more to it?

Step 2 - Option D

(Suggested by Spaz33g) I need to remove root tools from my DX, D2 phone. Although it will not remove all tools that require root to run, it will get you unrooted enough to take an update and be able to root with any method after the update. The reason this has become an issue is that the recent dx update was unrooting users but leaving super user in their system/apps and caused one click methods to fail. (added: 12-21-2010)
Quote:
Method to remove Superuser, su, and busybox.

1. su
2. mount -o rw,remount -t ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk1p21 /system
3. rm /system/app/Superuser.apk
4. rm /system/bin/su
5. rm /system/bin/busybox
6. mount -o ro,remount -t ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk1p21 /system
7. reboot

I am guessing that SBF stands for S<omething> Boot File?
But what is important, where does one get a Stock Motorola SBF to prepare the phone for a return to Verizon if needed be?

Some answers in red above.

Your guess is as good as mine as to what SBF stands for. Salami, Bacon and Falafel sandwich is as good an answer as any. Single Binary File, Stupid Broken Fone, whatever. You can find them all over, but probably the best method is to get the Team Black Hat app in the market and download what you need from there. What you need depends entirely on the system version you're running and the bootloader you have. Rooted users often update and use ROMs for updated (leaked) versions.

 

[jimisbell]

Thanks for all the info.

Yeah, I do tend to be a bit anal when looking through procedures. Too many years supervising programmers.....

 

[chkmate]

No problem.
SBF stands for whatever you want it to. In the Motorola world, however, it's a file you flash onto your phone to restore the software to (unless it's a custom-built SBF) stock. You need to know what version of Blur you're running (system software/bootloader) so you can flash it onto your phone. Hacking the X/2/variants isn't quite as straightforward as hacking a D1 or even most HTC phones.

I went through your procedure (step 1A) for rooting the DX and have some suggestions. I have 40+ years of experience in computers so I was able to figure it out but I think three things would have made it clearer for a newby.

Not my thread, but I do work on it.

First, when I downloaded rageagainsethecage by clicking on it, it did not end up in the directory /sdcard/download and I couldnt find it...until I did a search and found it in sdcard/tapatakldroidforums_download. Maybe that was unique to my phone?? I moved it to /sdcard/download and then followed the directions.

You downloaded from the DF app and not the browser. The app didn't exist when the method was developed. I'll make a suggestion to the thread's creator, thanks.

Second, I would add the 7th "dotted" procedure, "Exit Astro". Yes maybe one should assume that, but a newby might not assume that and I am a stickler for detail, in programming, where a missed " " can cause problems.

Honestly, if a noob can't figure out to leave Astro before typing into terminal then they probably shouldn't be rooting their phone for any number of reasons. However, I'll make note of that in the message I'll give to the OP.

Third, I would add a step before step #1 (step 0???) "Open Terminal"...same comments as above.

The line before that says to type it into Terminal Emulator; same deal as above.

I only went as far as step #6 because my DX is already rooted but I wanted to test the "road home" if I ever had to do it without z4root.

#7 through #14 look straight enough...lucky for me I program in linux sometimes.

Getting Astro was a great idea. I had a couple of file handling Apps on the phone but they were inadequate for this job, I didnt know about Astro.

Astro is the file manager. Everyone on the Rescue Squad recommends it for every user because it's the best way to access your SD card for non-rooted users, and for rooted users like myself who don't use Root Explorer it's invaluable.

Now can I UNROOT the phone by doing the steps 7-14 in reverse or is there more to it?

(Suggested by Spaz33g) I need to remove root tools from my DX, D2 phone. Although it will not remove all tools that require root to run, it will get you unrooted enough to take an update and be able to root with any method after the update. The reason this has become an issue is that the recent dx update was unrooting users but leaving super user in their system/apps and caused one click methods to fail. (added: 12-21-2010)
Quote:
Method to remove Superuser, su, and busybox.

1. su
2. mount -o rw,remount -t ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk1p21 /system
3. rm /system/app/Superuser.apk
4. rm /system/bin/su
5. rm /system/bin/busybox
6. mount -o ro,remount -t ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk1p21 /system
7. reboot

I am guessing that SBF stands for S<omething> Boot File?
But what is important, where does one get a Stock Motorola SBF to prepare the phone for a return to Verizon if needed be?

Some answers in red above.

Your guess is as good as mine as to what SBF stands for. Salami, Bacon and Falafel sandwich is as good an answer as any. Single Binary File, Stupid Broken Fone, whatever. You can find them all over, but probably the best method is to get the Team Black Hat app in the market and download what you need from there. What you need depends entirely on the system version you're running and the bootloader you have. Rooted users often update and use ROMs for updated (leaked) versions.

Thought it was System Bin Files.

//Tap'd on CM8's DX w/DF app\\

 

[furbearingmammal]

Thanks for all the info.

Yeah, I do tend to be a bit anal when looking through procedures. Too many years supervising programmers.....

Ah, programmers. Tempermental lot. Usually work better with judicious applications of caffeine and Halo.