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SES doesn't mean he will steal things. that's like saying a rich guy won't try to scam you. whoever mods their phone takes the risk of that happening
True you run a risk- but your risks are different. You can get mugged anywhere in New York- but the chances of it happening at 2pm in the middle of fifth avenue are different than a dark alley in brooklyn at 3 am

didn't know that we were in a dark alley. I see what you are saying but really it wouldn't matter. if he was doing something like that someone would have notices funds missing. but with your perspective, that assumes you really know your environment and trust what the guy is saying is fact. I don't think you know him personally u are just assuming things


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Is it just coincidental or did anyone else notice this whole episode exploded when BD removed his ROM from ROM Manager. Based on the number of downloads (and the fact that ROM Manager put money in Kouch's pocket) I'll bet that gave him some heartburn.

The fact that BD made Kouch's ROM better is a side point.
The fact that BD's ROM was better is the main point.

After all, isn't it all about money ???

Yep. If BD hadn't asked to have his rom removed, no way all of this would have happened. Isn't it ironic that Koush added the rom back and keep it there against BD's wishes. The very rom that they now have moral misgivings about! As long as the money was coming in, the rom was great.

Yep! Couldn't agree more... blackdroid stopped feeding his wallet.. then failed to feed his ego. So here we are now! I only hope blackdroid continues his work on his own site now.. as that is where I will be spending most of my time as soon as a forum is opened to post in. I cannot express my fustraition and anger more. I tried not to be a fanboy of any developer. But I feel bd got the shaft. And I give him my support! I have 0 respect for koush, cyanogen, and all their followers. And am hugely disappointed in droidforums decision. I am embarrassed to have a droidforums supporting member badge.
 
I've had code stolen before not particularly in the android scene (people i work around are great!). Your opinion is your opinion i'm just trying to understand how someone considers stealing someone elses work is okay? That's all.

If you notice, the ones that have no problem stealing code are all BD's fans. He has quite the power of convincing people, including his "developers," that he did not steal and he made it all himself.

Its not worth fighting with them, soon BD will be gone and they shall follow to ruin another forum.

ohh nooo BD's in my brain...g.g....r.r.a..r..

BD didnt' steal anything...it was an accident, I, i mean he, left an stupid .xml file....too many windows opened on my screen......cut copy....no no...build...spreadsheet does not exist...I built it all...

Someone has plans to build a doghouse. Someone has the same plans to build the same doghouse. The "plans" come from "open source" so anyone can use them. One person builds it plain and another adds heat/air conditioning. But both start from the same plan? (google source code)
What is the difference?

Taking someone else's idea (or work) is what is done every minute of the day in the world. Thats how development works and gets better.

I like the analogy only that the other guy just took the first guys dog house and painted it. He didn't know how to read the plans from "open source" to build the doghouse in the first place, so he just took the other guys and said tada.
 
Okay i read like the first 10 pages and then decided to post.
In my eyes even though i love koush's work and cyanogenmod, and wasnt happy to hear that blackdroid copied stuff (yes ive used blackdroids stuff before and loved it and the theme) i really dont believe that this is entirely fair. Yes it is possible that he may have copied and pasted stuff but that doesnt mean he really did. Blackdroid helped out a lot around here when people had questions and kicking him out really is just wrong. You guys should give him a chance to plead his case, because in reality hes innocent until hes proven guilty.

Dont do this DF, give blackdroid a chance to plead his case and prove that hes guilty. He's just like the other developers and helps people out and does stuff for us the people. So what he might have copied and pasted stuff, everybody makes mistakes and he did come around and give koush/cyanogenmod credit in his V10. Sure it may not have been the exact statement we all wanted to see but he still did that, and still said something to us.

Bottom line, give him a chance, theres absolutely no need to do this, and if he messes up again kick him out right away no questions asked.

There's my .02
He was proven guilty, there's no may about it. And no he didn't and still isn't giving koush/cyanogen credit.

Did you not read any of this?
yes i did read it, but i also read the thread that he made in a different section, hes never going to admit to stealing all of cyanogen's code, but he did admit to having random pieces of code from cyanogen in his rom. ill admit i didnt like what blackdroid and i think he stole stuff, but throwing him off this site is a bad move, too many people here like blackdroid and thank him for the help hes given them that this is just stupid.

let the community decide blackdroids fate.
 
Okay i read like the first 10 pages and then decided to post.
In my eyes even though i love koush's work and cyanogenmod, and wasnt happy to hear that blackdroid copied stuff (yes ive used blackdroids stuff before and loved it and the theme) i really dont believe that this is entirely fair. Yes it is possible that he may have copied and pasted stuff but that doesnt mean he really did. Blackdroid helped out a lot around here when people had questions and kicking him out really is just wrong. You guys should give him a chance to plead his case, because in reality hes innocent until hes proven guilty.

Dont do this DF, give blackdroid a chance to plead his case and prove that hes guilty. He's just like the other developers and helps people out and does stuff for us the people. So what he might have copied and pasted stuff, everybody makes mistakes and he did come around and give koush/cyanogenmod credit in his V10. Sure it may not have been the exact statement we all wanted to see but he still did that, and still said something to us.

Bottom line, give him a chance, theres absolutely no need to do this, and if he messes up again kick him out right away no questions asked.

There's my .02
He was proven guilty, there's no may about it. And no he didn't and still isn't giving koush/cyanogen credit.

Did you not read any of this?
yes i did read it, but i also read the thread that he made in a different section, hes never going to admit to stealing all of cyanogen's code, but he did admit to having random pieces of code from cyanogen in his rom. ill admit i didnt like what blackdroid and i think he stole stuff, but throwing him off this site is a bad move, too many people here like blackdroid and thank him for the help hes given them that this is just stupid.

let the community decide blackdroids fate.

That's EXACTLY what happened!!
 
He was proven guilty, there's no may about it. And no he didn't and still isn't giving koush/cyanogen credit.

Did you not read any of [URL="https://
yes i did read it, but i also read the thread that he made in a different section, hes never going to admit to stealing all of cyanogen's code, but he did admit to having random pieces of code from cyanogen in his rom. ill admit i didnt like what blackdroid and i think he stole stuff, but throwing him off this site is a bad move, too many people here like blackdroid and thank him for the help hes given them that this is just stupid.

let the community decide blackdroids fate.

+1 let's do a poll


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Do I understand correctly that BD's ROM's pre-V10 are legit? So I don't have to feel like I'm perpetuating a wrong by running a version 9.something?
 
He was proven guilty, there's no may about it. And no he didn't and still isn't giving koush/cyanogen credit.

Did you not read any of this?
yes i did read it, but i also read the thread that he made in a different section, hes never going to admit to stealing all of cyanogen's code, but he did admit to having random pieces of code from cyanogen in his rom. ill admit i didnt like what blackdroid and i think he stole stuff, but throwing him off this site is a bad move, too many people here like blackdroid and thank him for the help hes given them that this is just stupid.

let the community decide blackdroids fate.

That's EXACTLY what happened!!

No it's NOT what happened.
 
Do I understand correctly that BD's ROM's pre-V10 are legit? So I don't have to feel like I'm perpetuating a wrong by running a version 9.something?

Dude, you can run whatever ROM you want to run. Yes, v9.8 was legit and the best ROM out IMHO.
 
If you notice, the ones that have no problem stealing code are all BD's fans. He has quite the power of convincing people, including his "developers," that he did not steal and he made it all himself.

Its not worth fighting with them, soon BD will be gone and they shall follow to ruin another forum.

ohh nooo BD's in my brain...g.g....r.r.a..r..

BD didnt' steal anything...it was an accident, I, i mean he, left an stupid .xml file....too many windows opened on my screen......cut copy....no no...build...spreadsheet does not exist...I built it all...

Someone has plans to build a doghouse. Someone has the same plans to build the same doghouse. The "plans" come from "open source" so anyone can use them. One person builds it plain and another adds heat/air conditioning. But both start from the same plan? (google source code)
What is the difference?

Taking someone else's idea (or work) is what is done every minute of the day in the world. Thats how development works and gets better.

I like the analogy only that the other guy just took the first guys dog house and painted it. He didn't know how to read the plans from "open source" to build the doghouse in the first place, so he just took the other guys and said tada.

In other words BD is like the company B.A.S.F. "we don't make the products you buy, we make them better" It's the American way
 
He was proven guilty, there's no may about it. And no he didn't and still isn't giving koush/cyanogen credit.

Did you not read any of [URL="https://
yes i did read it, but i also read the thread that he made in a different section, hes never going to admit to stealing all of cyanogen's code, but he did admit to having random pieces of code from cyanogen in his rom. ill admit i didnt like what blackdroid and i think he stole stuff, but throwing him off this site is a bad move, too many people here like blackdroid and thank him for the help hes given them that this is just stupid.

let the community decide blackdroids fate.

+1 let's do a poll


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Then 100's of CM's groupies would join the forum and flood the pool to make it inaccuate as to how the REAL members feel. That be those with say over 20 posts and not all 20 being BD flames.

This was a witch hunt over a "thanks Bro" and the Mods caved in to a bunch of lackies that will now leave laughing at what they have accomlished. Visit their forum. They have live wallpapers making fun of this this forum with their childish "kanged" and "pnwed" comments.
 
yes i did read it, but i also read the thread that he made in a different section, hes never going to admit to stealing all of cyanogen's code, but he did admit to having random pieces of code from cyanogen in his rom. ill admit i didnt like what blackdroid and i think he stole stuff, but throwing him off this site is a bad move, too many people here like blackdroid and thank him for the help hes given them that this is just stupid.

let the community decide blackdroids fate.
+1 let's do a poll


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Then 100's of CM's groupies would join the forum and flood the pool to make it inaccuate as to how the REAL members feel. That be those with say over 20 posts and not all 20 being BD flames.

This was a witch hunt over a "thanks Bro" and the Mods caved in to a bunch of lackies that will now leave laughing at what they have accomlished. Visit their forum. They have live wallpapers making fun of this this forum with their childish "kanged" and "pnwed" comments.

i love cyanogenmod, but i would vote to keep blackdroid around because he does make good roms and people do make mistakes, hes not perfect, and deserves another chance.
 
Taking someone else's idea (or work) is what is done every minute of the day in the world. Thats how development works and gets better.

That's how Open Source works, except credit is given. Open Source is built upon incremental changes from the community, and all authors are given credit for the areas they participate in.

It isn't 2 seperate dog houses - to build the 2nd one, you needed knowledge of the 1st. The debate isn't that UD didn't contribute something to the community. The debate is that he didn't give credit, trashed Cyanogen, and still didn't confess even when given solid evidence.

We're all on the same team. We all want maximum functionality from our phones. It's great that we even have that option.
 
Is it just coincidental or did anyone else notice this whole episode exploded when BD removed his ROM from ROM Manager. Based on the number of downloads (and the fact that ROM Manager put money in Kouch's pocket) I'll bet that gave him some heartburn.

The fact that BD made Kouch's ROM better is a side point.
The fact that BD's ROM was better is the main point.

After all, isn't it all about money ???

Yep. If BD hadn't asked to have his rom removed, no way all of this would have happened. Isn't it ironic that Koush added the rom back and keep it there against BD's wishes. The very rom that they now have moral misgivings about! As long as the money was coming in, the rom was great.

Yep! Couldn't agree more... blackdroid stopped feeding his wallet.. then failed to feed his ego. So here we are now! I only hope blackdroid continues his work on his own site now.. as that is where I will be spending most of my time as soon as a forum is opened to post in. I cannot express my fustraition and anger more. I tried not to be a fanboy of any developer. But I feel bd got the shaft. And I give him my support! I have 0 respect for koush, cyanogen, and all their followers. And am hugely disappointed in droidforums decision. I am embarrassed to have a droidforums supporting member badge.

I hope to have the forum up and running around 3-4ish eastern
 
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