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Holy Finishing Touches Batman, it's Sapphire 1.0
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couldn't have said it better myself. All very true.
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couldn't have said it better myself. All very true.
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You can, you just have to know what you're doing before you start. And use clockwork recovery.
I love Sapphire more for it's stability, while the tweakable settings are a pleasant plus...... that being said... I continually hear all this talk about how a ROM built from source is somehow 'better', but I have yet to come across 'ANY' ROMs built from source that comes completely up to par with BB... just my own experieinces here, so don't want everyone to get the panties all up in a wad...lol 
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I mean if being built from source was all that, then why is it that most seem less stable, run hotter with any kernels, and can't seem to generate the kind of following that the so called 'Lowly' BB has??
Just had to get that off my chest since comments are being made about how BB is supposedly inferior since it's not built from source.
I continue to use both BB and Sapphire, but BB has never froze on me nor had a reboot, whiule Sapphire has on a couple rare (very rare coming out of sleep mode) occasions.
I mean Sapphire is one of the most stable Froyo ROMs I've tried, but since it's from source shouldn't it be kicking BB's ass when it comes to stability??
I love them both, but I'm also kinda tired of the disrespect dished out at Pete..... All ROMs are good in their own rights, and there is really no need to be trying to say this is better than that yada.... because if we really had to compare, 'numbers' don't lie, it says everything without it being needed to be said..
... I mean if being built from source was all that, then why is it that most seem less stable, run hotter with any kernels, and can't seem to generate the kind of following that the so called 'Lowly' BB has??
Just had to get that off my chest since comments are being made about how BB is supposedly inferior since it's not built from source.
I continue to use both BB and Sapphire, but BB has never froze on me nor had a reboot, whiule Sapphire has on a couple rare (very rare coming out of sleep mode) occasions.
I mean Sapphire is one of the most stable Froyo ROMs I've tried, but since it's from source shouldn't it be kicking BB's ass when it comes to stability??
I love them both, but I'm also kinda tired of the disrespect dished out at Pete..... All ROMs are good in their own rights, and there is really no need to be trying to say this is better than that yada.... because if we really had to compare, 'numbers' don't lie, it says everything without it being needed to be said..
I love Sapphire more for it's stability, while the tweakable settings are a pleasant plus...... that being said... I continually hear all this talk about how a ROM built from source is somehow 'better', but I have yet to come across 'ANY' ROMs built from source that comes completely up to par with BB... just my own experieinces here, so don't want everyone to get the panties all up in a wad...lol
I mean if being built from source was all that, then why is it that most seem less stable, run hotter with any kernels, and can't seem to generate the kind of following that the so called 'Lowly' BB has??
Just had to get that off my chest since comments are being made about how BB is supposedly inferior since it's not built from source.
I continue to use both BB and Sapphire, but BB has never froze on me nor had a reboot, whiule Sapphire has on a couple rare (very rare coming out of sleep mode) occasions.
I mean Sapphire is one of the most stable Froyo ROMs I've tried, but since it's from source shouldn't it be kicking BB's ass when it comes to stability??
I love them both, but I'm also kinda tired of the disrespect dished out at Pete..... All ROMs are good in their own rights, and there is really no need to be trying to say this is better than that yada.... because if we really had to compare, 'numbers' don't lie, it says everything without it being needed to be said..
Sapphire is 'state of the art' as other source built ROMS. BB .04 is modified stock ROM of yesterday. I have run both BB and Sapphire and both are rock solid IMO.
Stability, heat, battery life is all going to vary on a WIDE margin of settings between the rom, kernel, apps, whats running when, etc. BB has a big following because of the time it has been around. The only other rom that has been around as long (and this is off memory, as I didn't pay much attention back then) was cyanogen. Before 2.2 it had one of the largest followings in the rom world. And once they finally get passed the RC stage and release a final product and get into the swing of things with faster updates, I am sure that they will gather back most if not all of their following.
I think BB is considered lowly as because of it's following, and how it is built. Most of the more unexperienced flashers stick with what seems the most noob friendly. Enter BB and UD. Both have a ton of features enabled right out of the box. Because of this, people see that and think instantly that these are the best roms. Other rom's more often than not leave most things on the surface stock, and let the user decide what they want changed. This makes other roms seem less noob friendly (Sapphire). More experienced people see this as a more welcoming environment as we can pick and choose what we want, instead of having to deal with all the crapware we don't want in a rom.
Now Bugless Beast is built off of leaks. Leaks are the most important thing to a rom like this. Once leaks are ceased though, and the official rom comes out, there is no more updating the ASOP code of the rom. Pete and the likes rely on leaks to keep their rom on the bleeding edge. If the tweaks were removed and it was just leak versus ASOP code, I am sure we would see a clear winner. Building from source allows for the source related code to be updated regularly to keep it up to date.
Now to most people, building from source seems more techy and hacky. This can seem like a plus to some, and scary to others. The more you understand about the roms, the more you see how leaks are unappealing and the more you move towards built from source roms. You see the potential and how actually less hack work is involved. This allows for the imagination to run wild with possibilities, and as long as the hardware and software allow it, anything is possible. Now to those who are less experienced, they see that built from source and are put off as their mind set is that Motorola built this for the Droid. Who knows how to build it better than them? This mindset restricts them from realizing the full potential of the phone.
My whole point here is that up to this point, I knew where I was going with this. I got so into it though, that I lost my train of thought. So I am just going to end this long winded speech with this. Comparing one rom to another should in all honesty not be done. I feel that if you have one good experience with a rom, then from that day forward you are going to blow that experience way up and never like what you see in another rom. I myself am guilty of this too, as I loved sapphire the first day I used it. Go into each rom with a fresh mindset. Think that this is a new phone, and that you want to see how well it runs. Don't think about previous experiences, but just that you got something new to play with and you want to see how it runs. If you have problems, start looking into things that could be causing it. Look around in the forum and see if others are having the same problem. See if there is a solution. If not, ask for help. Most problems come from the user side and a bad setup. This can be fixed easily with a fresh start and a fresh mindset.
I think BB is considered lowly as because of it's following, and how it is built. Most of the more unexperienced flashers stick with what seems the most noob friendly. Enter BB and UD. Both have a ton of features enabled right out of the box. Because of this, people see that and think instantly that these are the best roms. Other rom's more often than not leave most things on the surface stock, and let the user decide what they want changed. This makes other roms seem less noob friendly (Sapphire). More experienced people see this as a more welcoming environment as we can pick and choose what we want, instead of having to deal with all the crapware we don't want in a rom.
Now Bugless Beast is built off of leaks. Leaks are the most important thing to a rom like this. Once leaks are ceased though, and the official rom comes out, there is no more updating the ASOP code of the rom. Pete and the likes rely on leaks to keep their rom on the bleeding edge. If the tweaks were removed and it was just leak versus ASOP code, I am sure we would see a clear winner. Building from source allows for the source related code to be updated regularly to keep it up to date.
Now to most people, building from source seems more techy and hacky. This can seem like a plus to some, and scary to others. The more you understand about the roms, the more you see how leaks are unappealing and the more you move towards built from source roms. You see the potential and how actually less hack work is involved. This allows for the imagination to run wild with possibilities, and as long as the hardware and software allow it, anything is possible. Now to those who are less experienced, they see that built from source and are put off as their mind set is that Motorola built this for the Droid. Who knows how to build it better than them? This mindset restricts them from realizing the full potential of the phone.
My whole point here is that up to this point, I knew where I was going with this. I got so into it though, that I lost my train of thought. So I am just going to end this long winded speech with this. Comparing one rom to another should in all honesty not be done. I feel that if you have one good experience with a rom, then from that day forward you are going to blow that experience way up and never like what you see in another rom. I myself am guilty of this too, as I loved sapphire the first day I used it. Go into each rom with a fresh mindset. Think that this is a new phone, and that you want to see how well it runs. Don't think about previous experiences, but just that you got something new to play with and you want to see how it runs. If you have problems, start looking into things that could be causing it. Look around in the forum and see if others are having the same problem. See if there is a solution. If not, ask for help. Most problems come from the user side and a bad setup. This can be fixed easily with a fresh start and a fresh mindset.
shocka2430
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Well put tank.
LOL...yeah Sapphire is a great ROM... but my point being, so is BB.... as lowly as it is said to be...
I remember when I had my Windows phone, there wasn't this much disrespect towards anyone... whether we created our own homescreen XMLs from scratch or whther we took an existing one and edited it.... it either looked good or it didn't... that was it, not that a scratch built XML was superior to one that was simply tweaked (edited)...lol
Anyways.... One thing I will agree on is that Sapphire has won me over with it's performance on my Droid...dancedroid...
I remember when I had my Windows phone, there wasn't this much disrespect towards anyone... whether we created our own homescreen XMLs from scratch or whther we took an existing one and edited it.... it either looked good or it didn't... that was it, not that a scratch built XML was superior to one that was simply tweaked (edited)...lol
Anyways.... One thing I will agree on is that Sapphire has won me over with it's performance on my Droid...dancedroid...
"Other rom's more often than not leave most things on the surface stock, and let the user decide what they want changed. This makes other roms seem less noob friendly (Sapphire). More experienced people see this as a more welcoming environment as we can pick and choose what we want, instead of having to deal with all the crapware we don't want in a rom." Tank
Exactly!
Exactly!
LMAO... so BB is only noob friendly and that's what makes it so good??... oh, come on now...
To me Sapphire is more noob friendly since it gives so many tweakable settings in a noob-friendly UI...... :icon_ banana:
J/K... I have much love for both... but I surely do not share the contempt towards Pete and his BB for not being built from source....lmao
To me Sapphire is more noob friendly since it gives so many tweakable settings in a noob-friendly UI...... :icon_ banana:
J/K... I have much love for both... but I surely do not share the contempt towards Pete and his BB for not being built from source....lmao
LMAO... so BB is only noob friendly and that's what makes it so good??... oh, come on now...
To me Sapphire is more noob friendly since it gives so many tweakable settings in a noob-friendly UI...... :icon_ banana:
J/K... I have much love for both... but I surely do not share the contempt towards Pete and his BB for not being built from source....lmao
I think you are mistaken about 'contempt towards Pete'. In fact Pete recent interview said he will be building from source in the future! He is learning what he needs to know to move forward building from source. Not hacking leaked or stock ROMS.
LMAO... so BB is only noob friendly and that's what makes it so good??... oh, come on now...
To me Sapphire is more noob friendly since it gives so many tweakable settings in a noob-friendly UI...... :icon_ banana:
J/K... I have much love for both... but I surely do not share the contempt towards Pete and his BB for not being built from source....lmao
I think you are mistaken about 'contempt towards Pete'. In fact Pete recent interview said he will be building from source in the future! He is learning what he needs to know to move forward building from source. Not hacking leaked or stock ROMS.
There you go.... you are more grounded about Pete than most.... but the posts I've seen makes no mistakes about some of the contempt.
Anyways, when Pete does put out a source built BB, then perhaps he'll finally get an acorn of respect...lol
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