ICS Battery life

[MaxxHeadroom]

Cerro it should. Please read FoxKats info on battery meter training. He's the guru of batteries. He knows his stuff. Once you get your phone running right with no software conflicts and your phone isn't fighting itself anymore, take a moment to read up on how to get your battery and your phones meter to not fight itself and your results will be very gratifying.

 

[MaxxHeadroom]

These are things to keep in mind.

1. We just had a major overhaul and switchover between 2 software versions. A clean fdr with apps freshly installed back on with out their backed up settings in place, will get your phone to quit fighting itself over settings within your apps of 2 software versions, which results in the phone finally running smoothly and the lag goes away.

2. Once the software end of it has been corrected then it's time to test your battery and see how it last. Our phones batteries today don't need conditioning like older phones did. You have to train the battery in the phone to sync up with your battery meter. This is where FoxKat's expertise comes in. Read up on his battery meter training literature, it works.

3. If you have implemented both these steps after your upgrade to Ics and still haven't seen battery times improve, then 90% of the time it's services on apps running in the background. Constantly waking your phone up while its trying to sleep to search for updates. Learn how to turn off basic fetching services in apps or set longer refresh interval search times such as in facebook and other apps to keep your phone from waking up constantly looking for updates. The less your phone gets woke up while it's trying to sleep results in better battery life.

Now keep in mind when you do the fdr and with a fresh clean installation of your apps, your phone needs to retrain itself all over again. So better battery times right out the gate wont be instant. I noticed with mine, my battery times started showing significant improvements after about the 3rd or 4th day. By then my phone had settled in and since I finally had everything running right and set up the way I wanted so naturally I was back to my normal usage of my phone, and so far it's showing rewarding "on" and "off" screen time results.

From what I gathered here,verizon,and motorola support forums, if you already know battery meter training and have already used it and do it to a schedule, fixing the software conflicts issues is of course the 1st point of attack, then exploring and turning off services and background data & setting rules for longer search interval times in apps and adjusting location services, fixing these 2 issues should come first, with a quick battery meter training cycle session to top it off, it is showing good results.

If you have never done battery meter training before, Then the order should be as I've stated above, it's showing better results with that way and method. So...

1. A clean fdr
2. Battery meter training.
3. Fix and set apps retrieval times that search for updates. Example-Facebook. In Ics if you use motocast for example, by default Ics has motocast running right off the bat and searching after a fdr. You have to go toggle it off manually in motocast itself to get it to stop searching constantly for your computer...Big battery hog.

 

[altjx]

FDR is complete. How does tapatalk remember DROID forums and my user name? None of my settings restored. in fact, I made sure to delete all data from Google servers.

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2

 

[Caesars]

Should have chose the other pill, Neo.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2

 

[dwhit87]

Just did another FDR but with no settings restored.. Will update after I see how the battery does.

 

[SCREWd2V]

These are things to keep in mind.

1. We just had a major overhaul between 2 software versions. A clean fdr with apps freshly installed back on with out their backed up settings in place, will get your phone to quit fighting itself over settings within your apps of 2 software versions, which results in the phone finally running smoothly and the lag goes away.

2. Once the software end of it has been corrected then it's time to test your battery and see how it last. Our phones batteries today don't need conditioning like older phones did. You have to train the battery in the phone to sync up with your battery meter. This is where FoxKat's expertise comes in. Read up on his battery life literature, it works.

3. If you have implemented both these steps after your upgrade to Ics and still haven't seen battery times improve, then 90% of the time it's services on apps running in the background. Constantly waking your phone up while its trying to sleep to search for updates. Learn how to turn off basic fetching services in apps or set longer refresh interval search times such as in facebook and other apps to keep your phone from waking up constantly looking for updates. The less your phone gets woke up while it's trying to sleep results in better battery life.

Now keep in mind when you do the fdr and with a fresh clean installation of your apps, your phone needs to retrain itself all over again. So better battery times right out the gate wont be instant. I noticed with mine, my battery times started showing significant improvements after about the 3rd or 4th day. By then my phone had settled in and since I finally had everything running right and set up and I was back to my normal usage of my phone, and so far it's showing rewarding on and off screen time results.

From what I gathered here,verizon,and motorola support forums, if you already know battery meter training and have already used it and do it to a schedule, fixing the software conflicts issues is of course the 1st point of attack, then exploring and turning off services and background data & setting rules for longer search interval times in apps and adjusting location services, fixing these 2 issues should come first, with a quick battery meter training cycle session to top it off, it is showing good results.

If you have never done battery meter training before, Then the order should be as I've stated above, it's showing better results with that way and method. So...

1. A clean fdr
2. Battery meter training.
3. Fix and set apps retrieval times that search for updates. Example-Facebook. In Ics if you use motocast for example, by default Ics has motocast running right off the bat and searching after a fdr. You have to go toggle it off manually in motocast itself to get it to stop searching constantly for your computer...Big battery hog.

Where is motocast located and how to do turn it off?

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[cleave]

Where is motocast located and how to do turn it off?

Sent from my Fist, using your Face

Yes, i would like to know too?

 

[lowfatdog]

I just did a FDR. Everything else I have tried failed to bring back the battery life. I am at 40% and going to work. If everything goes right, it should be at 20 or 30% when I get home. The question about motocast....go back a page or two, there is good instuctions with a picture on how to turn it off.

 

[altjx]

Gotcha. I always did "maybe later" for Motocast, so it was never set up to begin with... so I'm good.

 

[CerroTorre]

Here is an update. Overall I think it confirms everything MaxxHeadroom and FoxKat have been advising. I don't mean to clog up the forum with posts but I hope these details might help someone else.

Here's what I did last night, after my previous posts in this thread:

- with phone off, charged to 100%. This took 6+ hours.
- turned on phone
- did another FDR, this time with absolutely no restore of any apps or data (not even Contacts)
- got on local WiFi and manually reinstalled my contacts and apps, including JuiceDefender Plus and a simple battery level readout that shows battery level within 1%
- set JuiceDefender+ to minimize data reachouts (but not MotoCast, see below for more info)
- used LTEon/off app to keep the phone in CDMA mode
- uninstalled or disabled all the bloatware I recognized (but not MotoCast, wasn't sure I could safely mess with it)
- turned off WiFi
- left phone on but charging from wall charger. Power was down to 90% at this point.
- went to sleep at 2:30AM EST

This morning I was awakened at 9:30EST with a phonecall. After concluding the call, I unplugged the phone from the charger and found the battery was at 71% despite having been plugged in for 7 hours! I was highly pizzed off...

I checked the factory battery info in Settings and discovered the phone had been on batt for about 57 minutes. What the heck?! I had just then unplugged it, certainly not 1 hour previous. Plus, WiFi was on. So I highly suspect an app is waking up, turning on WiFi, turning off the charge function, and hammering the battery. Reading further here I think it might be MotoCast.

But here's the good news. While driving to a local coffee shop I plugged the phone into my car charger. Within a few minutes the battery was up to 74%. As a test I plugged it into a Li-Ion battery backup pack and it immediately began to charge properly. And right now plugged into the wall, the batt is up to 100%. So the good news is that after the clean FDR, the charging functions are working OK, and I don't have to keep the phone off 6+ hours a night to recharge. This is a big deal because I am on call 24/7 for my job and cannot tolerate 6+ hours of phone downtime.

MotoCast doesn't show up in the factory app list, and it doesn't show up in JuiceDefender+'s app list. Gotta do more research to figure out how to kill MotoCast.

The upside to all this hassle is that I'm really learning the phone...! :blink:

Edited to add:

Where is motocast located and how to do turn it off?

Same question here. MotoCast is not in my "running apps" list. There is no MotoCast entry in my status bar at the top of the screen. However I have 2 MotoCast entries in my "all apps" list:

- one has a Droid robot icon. It has a "force stop" button but no disable or uninstall button.
- the other has a red & white icon. It too has a "force stop" button but no disable/uninstall button.

I have no (known) need at all for MotoCast. How do I kill this sucker?

 

[Beckeramos]

Guys and gals, I am going to suggest that everyone run a Meter training. Charge the phone with Power Off to 100% (press and hold Power, then select "Power off" from the menu, then once powered off, plug in charger and allow to charge for 3 hours if it's a RAZR, 5.5 hours if it's a RAZR MAXX), then use to 15%, then charge to 100% with Power Off again. When your phone upgraded there is the very good possibility that the meter's flags were reset and they no longer represent the actual battery condition and capacity.

In other words, the battery may not be anywhere near depleted when the meter is saying it is, and so it "appears" that it's using more power than it is. I did a training right after install and I've seen better than 24 hour days. Most days I am getting through the entire day with between 40% and 60% remaining when I plug it at bedtime. That last one was nearly 2 days with a couple boost charges during that time. It was 25 hours 9 minutes before the first short boost where it hit 30%, and close to 36 hours with just those two short boost charges after when it finished up at 30% again.

Also interesting to note, the June 30 and July 1 battery voltages are seen as dropping WHILE on charge (the green parts), that proves what I have been telling everyone about how charging STOPS once it hits 100% and then waits. Those two days, I did power-on charges, where the previous 2 were power-off charges, so once it was charged on June 30 and July 1, the phone began to deplete the power (the red parts) and hadn't yet hit 90% when I removed it from charge.

See charts below:

Was curious if FoxKat or anyone else could help with this battery meter training. Foxkat suggests to charge the phone while off to 100% then use to 15% and recharge to 100% while off. My question is at what percentage do we start charging initially? Is it 15% or do we run it all the way down...then power off, charge to 100% then run to 15%?

 

[94lt1]

You can do this at any time. Just turn off the device and charge. It doesn't matter if its 20, 40, 70%... because the training starts at 100% when you turn the device on after its been fully charged.

DROID RAZR MAXXIMIZED!!!! PREPARE TO BE VANQUISHED!!!

 

[danh63]

Will I have to enter all my contacts back on or is there a place I can at least get those back on? I want to do the reset but worried about contacts

 

[FoxKat]

Will I have to enter all my contacts back on or is there a place I can at least get those back on? I want to do the reset but worried about contacts

If you have Google set to backup your contacts, they will auto-populate. You can also turn on Backup Assistant from the Contacts Menu selection and then choose "Sync Now". That will provide a full backup to the Verizon servers so that when you restore, it will re-populate them.

You may also wish to download and install https://play.google.com/store/apps/...hu.CallLogBackupRestore&feature=search_result, and https://play.google.com/store/apps/....SMSBackupRestore&feature=more_from_developer. Both will allow you to restore your call logs and SMS messages in their original state after the reset as well. Just make sure that if you plan to wipe the internal memory card, when you run these two utilities that you go into the menu, preferences, backup folder selection and change the backup destination from /mnt/sdcard/CallLogBackupRestore/ to /mnt/sdcard-ext/CallLogBackupRestore/, and do the same on the SMS utility and change /mnt/sdcard/SMSBackupRestore/ to /mnt/sdcard-ext/SMSBackupRestore. Also, make sure you don't choose to wipe the external memory card. Better safe than sorry, simply remove it before the restore.

 

[MaxxHeadroom]

To check and see if Motocast is turned on, go into My Gallery> Motocast is down on the bottom right open it. Look for the circle with the arrow on in in the top right corner and make the drop down box appear. Where it shows your computer name in the options, look and see if the check mark is checked. That's how you toggle Motocast on and off. If it's checked just uncheck it to make Motocast quit searching for your computer. I use Motocast but I found it odd after both fdr's I did, that it was turned on for me both times by default.