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Motorola Droid Bionic Joins the Droid Family!

How on earth can anyone be disappointed in the Bionic? I say that sincerely. Has anyone taken the time to actually look at the specs on this handset?

Its a letdown because of no docking capabilities? Its a let down because it has ddr2 memory, a Tegra 2 processor and a high res 4.3" screen? The Bionic has the best hardware of any device coming to Market. Help me understand the rationale of being disappointed.

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WTB 2.3 and keyboard. Also the Atrix has more ram =0(
 
How on earth can anyone be disappointed in the Bionic? I say that sincerely. Has anyone taken the time to actually look at the specs on this handset?

Its a letdown because of no docking capabilities? Its a let down because it has ddr2 memory, a Tegra 2 processor and a high res 4.3" screen? The Bionic has the best hardware of any device coming to Market. Help me understand the rationale of being disappointed.

Sent from my Droid

WTB 2.3 and keyboard. Also the Atrix has more ram =0(

The extra ram is for Notebook part of the Atrix not for the Phone.
 
How on earth can anyone be disappointed in the Bionic? I say that sincerely. Has anyone taken the time to actually look at the specs on this handset?

Its a letdown because of no docking capabilities? Its a let down because it has ddr2 memory, a Tegra 2 processor and a high res 4.3" screen? The Bionic has the best hardware of any device coming to Market. Help me understand the rationale of being disappointed.

Sent from my Droid

WTB 2.3 and keyboard. Also the Atrix has more ram =0(

I have already had a change of opinion on the Bionic. Stated before, the Atrix -needs- the extra RAM because of it's Webtop application that is constantly running in the background. As for 2.3 will eventually be sent to the Bionic. As for the keyboard, with a screen that large, it's pretty unnecessary.
 
I think the bionic will be a great phone and also that it is on verizons net work.can't wait to play with it when it comes out.
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Sorry, since I cannot edit posts in news threads, I just need to add on here.

In the VZW CES keynote, one of the three big wigs who answered questions at the end stated flat out that you could put a SIM in from any wireless company (yes even AT&T) and have the phone work on their network. It will not work on Sprint as they are also CDMA but as you should already know VZW and Sprint CDMA phones cannot be used back and forth. But you'd be able to move the Bionic to AT&T or T-Mobile.

I caught this too. I just listened to the response again ([video=youtube;DpW0VSSifkw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpW0VSSifkw]YouTube - Verizon Wireless Q&A Segment at CES[/video], at the 3:30 mark). I did some more research and it seems LTE SIM cards have more "security" features than GSM SIM cards. One of these features could be used to allow the vendor to remotely lock/unlock access to other bands. No doubt that will come into play.

I don't think VZW wants their devices running on other US bands. But for global, it looks like as long as you activate it in the US once (so it's in VZW's system), they'll be glad to hook you up with global GSM (and LTE as available) bands.
 
WTB 2.3 and keyboard. Also the Atrix has more ram =0(

Where are you getting 2.3 from? AT&T's site says 2.2.

Get ready for MOTOROLA ATRIX 4G - redefine the line between phone and laptop.
NVIDIA® Tegra™ – the world's most advanced mobile processor featuring dual core technology including 3D graphics
4.0" QHD display – 24-bit color graphics that refresh faster than other smartphones
Pocket or dock it – experience connected computing no matter where you are with MOTOROLA Laptop Dock and HD Multimedia Dock
High performance 1 GB RAM – up to 48 GB available memory for quick access to thousands of songs, photos, and files
Advanced fingerprint recognition reader keeps everything secure – only you can access what's on your device
Android™ 2.2 operating system with access to thousands of apps in Android Market
Voice quality is clear even in loud environments thanks to two-microphone noise reduction technology
Front-facing VGA video camera
Long-lasting 1930 mAh battery
 
Sorry, since I cannot edit posts in news threads, I just need to add on here.

In the VZW CES keynote, one of the three big wigs who answered questions at the end stated flat out that you could put a SIM in from any wireless company (yes even AT&T) and have the phone work on their network. It will not work on Sprint as they are also CDMA but as you should already know VZW and Sprint CDMA phones cannot be used back and forth. But you'd be able to move the Bionic to AT&T or T-Mobile.

I caught this too. I just listened to the response again ([video=youtube;DpW0VSSifkw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpW0VSSifkw]YouTube - Verizon Wireless Q&A Segment at CES[/video], at the 3:30 mark). I did some more research and it seems LTE SIM cards have more "security" features than GSM SIM cards. One of these features could be used to allow the vendor to remotely lock/unlock access to other bands. No doubt that will come into play.

I don't think VZW wants their devices running on other US bands. But for global, it looks like as long as you activate it in the US once (so it's in VZW's system), they'll be glad to hook you up with global GSM (and LTE as available) bands.

Just to note, AT&T and T-Mobile are global wireless carriers. Out of the US, T-Mobile has a much larger footprint, but I think AT&T is in Canada as well.

This will 100% roam globally, and I am not yet willing to concede the inability to switch to another carrier in the US. While this phone is being launched on VZW, it is Motorola's phone not VZW's. ;) I am certain you could find one on eBay and probably run it on T-Mobile, but of course the question would then be ..... why on earth would anyone in their right mind want to?
 
I really do not understand why so many people seem disappointed in this phone, it's by far the best device on the market or in the near term pipeline.

OK, you are right, it doesn't have a "docking station", but honestly have you looked at that dock? The way the Atrix sits in it, it just looks like it's destined to break at some point if you carry it around like you would any other netbook.

Aside from lacking a netbook like dock, everything else on this phone is the best around.

DDR2 RAM - yes PC class RAM, much faster RAM than anything before it

qHD - quarter high def = 960x540 resolution

HDMI out with mirroring. now you can watch whatever is on your Droid on any HDMI capable HD TV. Not just applications which are built to take advantage of HDMI out in a phone, but ALL applications

Tegra 2 - Last week everyone was so excited to see the first dual cores come out, here one is and people are still complaining

Global - It's an LTE phone, it IS global, there is no need to put Global in the name

Front facing camera

16GB internal storage plus a Micro SD card for another 32GB

Honestly to those complaining that this isn't what they expected or isn't good enough, the leap and bounds better than the X that this phone is, in such a short period of time is nothing short of wonderful. I have no idea what you were hoping for, but I see nothing to complain about with the Bionic.

Great post. And thanks for the clarification on the LTE card with regard to global roaming. I have now decided: this will be my next phone. Just wish I didn't have to hold out until April....
 
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I have already had a change of opinion on the Bionic. Stated before, the Atrix -needs- the extra RAM because of it's Webtop application that is constantly running in the background. As for 2.3 will eventually be sent to the Bionic. As for the keyboard, with a screen that large, it's pretty unnecessary.

From what i see that is all rumor though. I have yet to see anythign solid on the ram needs for the dock. two camps exist right now with no proof for either. One that the dock uses the phone's apps and not a seperate OS save for a special tabbed Firefox browser ad the camp you subscribe to stateing the 512 is used for the dock OS.

So please if you have something hard to shine light on this, please...shine away.
 
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I have already had a change of opinion on the Bionic. Stated before, the Atrix -needs- the extra RAM because of it's Webtop application that is constantly running in the background. As for 2.3 will eventually be sent to the Bionic. As for the keyboard, with a screen that large, it's pretty unnecessary.

From what i see that is all rumor though. I have yet to see anythign solid on the ram needs for the dock. two camps exist right now with no proof for either. One that the dock uses the phone's apps and not a seperate OS save for a special tabbed Firefox browser ad the camp you subscribe to stateing the 512 is used for the dock OS.

So please if you have something hard to shine light on this, please...shine away.
Man, it's like no one knows how to use google.

CES 2011: The Motorola Atrix | video | Technology | guardian.co.uk

Start watching around the 1:00 mark. The "desktop application running full fledged firefox" is a linux OS. Look at the screen, it's not Android, android is running in a WINDOW.
 
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I have already had a change of opinion on the Bionic. Stated before, the Atrix -needs- the extra RAM because of it's Webtop application that is constantly running in the background. As for 2.3 will eventually be sent to the Bionic. As for the keyboard, with a screen that large, it's pretty unnecessary.

From what i see that is all rumor though. I have yet to see anythign solid on the ram needs for the dock. two camps exist right now with no proof for either. One that the dock uses the phone's apps and not a seperate OS save for a special tabbed Firefox browser ad the camp you subscribe to stateing the 512 is used for the dock OS.

So please if you have something hard to shine light on this, please...shine away.

CNET review:
Motorola Atrix | Reviews | CNET UK

But hold on to your hats, because there's also a multimedia dock. Pop the Atrix into that, and its one micro-USB port and mini-HDMI port gets bumped up to three USB ports and a full-sized HDMI port. Plug that into a telly or monitor, and the Atrix busts out its secret weapon -- a Linux-based OS, separate from Android, called 'webtop'.

In this mode, you can surf the Web using full-blown Firefox, like on a computer. The browser handles plenty of Web apps, so as long as you're connected to the Internet you can work on your Google docs, edit photos in Picnik, or whatever strikes your fancy.
While using webtop, you still have access to the phone's Android features, so you can play games or run Android apps on the big screen. A Bluetooth keyboard and mouse makes it all easy-peasy to control.
 
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I have already had a change of opinion on the Bionic. Stated before, the Atrix -needs- the extra RAM because of it's Webtop application that is constantly running in the background. As for 2.3 will eventually be sent to the Bionic. As for the keyboard, with a screen that large, it's pretty unnecessary.

From what i see that is all rumor though. I have yet to see anythign solid on the ram needs for the dock. two camps exist right now with no proof for either. One that the dock uses the phone's apps and not a seperate OS save for a special tabbed Firefox browser ad the camp you subscribe to stateing the 512 is used for the dock OS.

So please if you have something hard to shine light on this, please...shine away.

From PCMag

Motorola Atrix for AT&T: Hands On | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

The Atrix's Linux only runs three apps: Firefox 3.6.13, a file manager, and Android-in-a-window. There's a shortcuts bar along the bottom, but they're all shortcuts either to the Web or to Android apps that then launch in Android-in-a-window.

Firefox on the Atrix supports Flash, it supports plug-ins, and it runs smoothly. And then you run Android apps in a little window on the side. It's surreal. It's kind of like what Chrome OS should be. And it makes me think: hey, what if you could run other apps on the desktop-OS side? Motorola appears not to have any immediate plans for that, but it's a cool idea.

as well as ....

I'm pretty thrilled for the Motorola Atrix, which AT&T said at the Motorola event is coming in a few weeks. But AT&T and Motorola didn't announce prices for the device or its docks, and that could be a sticking point. It's also unclear how hard it will be to upgrade the Atrix's Android OS—MotoBlur causes enough problems. Now there's a whole second OS to deal with.
 
Call me 12 hours or so behind then.

Nonetheless none of those state that the other 512 is dedicated solely to the dock OS...
 
Call me 12 hours or so behind then.

Nonetheless none of those state that the other 512 is dedicated solely to the dock OS...

Of course you are right on that account, but the docking application is ALWAYS running so it's ready to go for the instant on feature when it docks. It's living in RAM. how much RAM, no one really will know until live ones get out in the world, but there is RAM usage, probably large RAM usage.

Reading through these forums the last couple days I have come to conclude some people just cannot be pleased ever. Yes, the Atrix is a sweet phone. Nope, it's not currently available for VZW (although it may be). For those who have to be able to use their smartphone as a netbook, AT&T is currently the only option. For the rest of the users who do not need to use their smartphone as a netbook, the Bionic is better in every spec sans total RAM (and we honestly have no idea how much RAM will be needed).

One thing I am pretty certain of though is that at some point people will figure out how to install more programs on the Desktop OS side of the Atrix and as soon as they do, everyone will be complaining about the lack of RAM in the Atrix. Load a few full fledged Linux apps up on the Atrix, keep Android running as it needs to and RAM starvation will ensue quite rapidly.

I'd note though that the Atrix's "4G" is HSPA+ and not LTE. At least I've not seen LTE used in conjunction with Atrix.
 
Call me 12 hours or so behind then.

Nonetheless none of those state that the other 512 is dedicated solely to the dock OS...
Soulpatch please understand and I will quote directly "The NVIDIA Tegra 2-powered, HSPA+ cell phone for AT&T runs two operating systems at once: Google's Android 2.2 and a customized Motorola version of Linux which helps the Atrix turn into a desktop or laptop PC."

How do you think it runs?
 
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