Mysterious Device Now With November 23 Launch date

[kodiak799]

Verizon doesn't make phones, you're right. But carriers have a large say in hardware design and internals.

Sent from my Droid

Probably not as much as you think. VZW wants a phone for $199 which will, in large part, determine what goes in it. With LTE coming in the matter of a few months, that plays a large factor in how many of these phones VZW will preorder. The economics might just not work for neither VZW nor HTC.

The reality is this is a very vocal minority. They have the Droid Pro coming which they obviously expect to be a big seller. Most people are not going to see a substantial difference between this phone and the Droid X or old Incredible, which meets the needs of probably 95% of the people out there (a lot of people are still perfectly happy with their D1).

With LTE coming in a few months, there are legit reasons why VZW, HTC and other mfrs aren't in a rush to push a limited run of 3G phones.

The tech is constantly evolving, in very small steps up, with new phones coming out seemingly every month. I doubt VZW is overly concerned about this relatively small group of people holding out for the "perfect" phone because that's just a constant of the business, and one that doesn't make strategic sense to worry about. These are people constantly holding out for "the best deal" and who are loyal only to the $value. They are easily replaced with similar customers from AT&T and Sprint.

I'm waiting for LTE. I never blinked over hearing "late 1H 2011" originally. Never considered even for a moment jumping to Sprint or somewhere else.

 

[harshd2000]

On a random thought, why do we have ads like these on this forum?

hmm :icon_eek:

 

[UltimateHobby]

This thread has quite a bit of steam. Any updates since yesterday?

Thanks in advance.

 

[wmnomore]

"With LTE coming in a few months, there are legit reasons why VZW, HTC and other mfrs aren't in a rush to push a limited run of 3G phones"

-IMO, i think there will be 3G phones being made up through 2012. This tech is widespread across the U.S. and works quite well, so there is no reason to stop using it.

Did Sprint stop making 3g phones? The new HTC HD7 on t-mobile doesn't use HSPA+, why is that?

 

[Eddog4DROID]

What is a "drkid". I would like to have "drkid" in possession on Nov 23rd. Possibly.

 

[UltimateHobby]

"With LTE coming in a few months, there are legit reasons why VZW, HTC and other mfrs aren't in a rush to push a limited run of 3G phones"

-IMO, i think there will be 3G phones being made up through 2012. This tech is widespread across the U.S. and works quite well, so there is no reason to stop using it.

Did Sprint stop making 3g phones? The new HTC HD7 on t-mobile doesn't use HSPA+, why is that?

Def. Especially since there are "more than a few" subscribers who won't have LTE coverage for a while.

 

[2005CTS]

In my mind - the only option they have for this is to get it out as an LTE phone no later than January 2011 - that is if they scrap the 3G version. If they wait until late 1st quarter - then they will be going up against the 2nd generation EVO4G, the iPhone5 and all the other big name LTE phones that are coming out next spring.

I still think that the best thing they could do is to shock the market by releasing an LTE device for a mid December sales date and essentially launch their LTE network for Christmas...with a quick encore at CES where they reveal the rest of their LTE line up.

 

[FootballBanker]

From reading this forum and talking to people in person, there are clearly 2 main groups.

Group #1 are current Android/iOS phone users that have "patience" for this phone to come out. They already have a Android device or iOS device that is pretty fun and very useful.

Group #2 is Blackberry users (I fall into this category). We have been stuck with these outdated crappy Storms/Tours for 1-2 years now :icon_evil:, and have been sitting on an uprgade for months. We have passed on the Dinc, X, Droid 2, switching to another service provider hoping VZW will reward us for our loyalty in staying with them even though they have sold us products that don't work. We have grown extremely impatient waiting for THE phone to pull the trigger on and sign our lives away for another 2 years. We have been burned once before and we don't want to make the same mistake twice. So we passed on all these great devices that have come. We have been loyal, we just want it to pay off and soon!

Again this is not just from reading this forum, its from folks I have talked to that don't keep up with phones like we do outside of this forum. I hope we can hear something soon.

 

[aayoo]

"With LTE coming in a few months, there are legit reasons why VZW, HTC and other mfrs aren't in a rush to push a limited run of 3G phones"

-IMO, i think there will be 3G phones being made up through 2012. This tech is widespread across the U.S. and works quite well, so there is no reason to stop using it.

Did Sprint stop making 3g phones? The new HTC HD7 on t-mobile doesn't use HSPA+, why is that?

Because the HD7 is essentially the HD2 running Windows 7 instead of 6.5. Funny thing is, HD2 users are already hacking their phones to run windows 7. Manufacturing that phone was as simple as an OS switch and a few hardware tweaks. Nonetheless, the MyTouch4G, evo and epic have all solidified those carriers as legit 4G players.

 

[Arkbird]

Or there is a Group 3: the people who have neither an Android or iOS phone, nor a Blackberry and have been patiently waiting for the king of Androids to arrive.

 

[kodiak799]

-IMO, i think there will be 3G phones being made up through 2012. This tech is widespread across the U.S. and works quite well, so there is no reason to stop using it.

Did Sprint stop making 3g phones? The new HTC HD7 on t-mobile doesn't use HSPA+, why is that?

Didn't say they'll stop making 3G, just trying to make the point that the vast majority of customers - probably 95% or more - get an upgrade and if they are interested in a new phone they go into the store and pick out the best fit for their needs and budget. They don't know or care what is in the pipeline and even if they did, it wouldn't make much difference. These forums represent a very small minority, and obsessed one that is not at all representative of the average consumer.

The new LTE phones will have sim cards, so in actuality the same phone can serve both as LTE and 3G. I'm sure VZW would like to have a high-end phone for the holidays (well, in addition to the Droid Pro and a few others coming out), but I doubt they feel their line-up has significant holes or is lacking.

While some on here fear this device doesn't come out and "I only want 3G, I DEMAND an Evo-like 3G phone", what VZW fears is a far larger number of consumers complaining in a few months about being sold a non-LTE compatible phone.

 

[Jmart922]

^^^ Second Gen evo4G? Never heard of it, iphone5? Hasn't officially been announced yet let alone LTE compatible

 

[2005CTS]

I just got my Verizon Wireless survey...Time to plug the DINC HD!!!

 

[Jas O]

VZW does seem to be in a spot. The holidays are here, All of the Storm NE2 are due, T-Mobile and Sprint are pushing thier 4G networks, ATT pushing the Iphone and VZW is just going to announce phones for thier 4G network are coming in 4 months and updated rehashed phones being released in November (The Pro is new but the D2G is just an update).

Seems to me they really need something to pull them through the holidays till all the LTE's come out.

 

[UltimateHobby]

I went to VZW on Saturday. Initially, I was doing some shopping for my gf and "quietly" merging our accounts, so I can get her the Incredible for Christmas.

After I finished, I started speaking with the store owner about the rumors of the Incredible HD, his response was "Oh, I have it right here". My response was, of course, "No effing way". Unfortunately, he pulled out the OG Incredible. Must have been hard of hearing Either way, we spoke at length about the forums, speculation rumors etc. With confidence, he told me he expected an Incredible HD after the beginning of the year. I eventually pulled up a picture of the device on his computer. His response was "This looks a lot like something that will be out before Christmas, but again, he was confident that it was not the HD.

I understand that there is probably a high percentage of us that have called or visited a store rep digging for information. I wanted to put this up with what some of you have heard. Any responses would be greatly appreciated.

On an AWESOME note, he offered me a part-time to eventual full-time job right before I walked out of the door! I was really not expecting that! I'm headed up there this afternoon, after job #1, to speak with him about it. Please, let me know.