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Mysterious Device Now With November 23 Launch date
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Very interesting news. So I wonder if this is the meeting where the VZW representative gives him the green light to release the data. Of course...he has been supposed to talk to the VZW rep many times before. I think Verizon knows they are in the driver's seat on this....so once the information comes out...we shall see if VZW followed through.
the.kevin.anderson
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Been lurking on this board for a couple of months now, but finally registered today. Thank all of you guys for the information you have given so far, and I'm excited about whats to come.
For those of us (like me) who have not joined the SmartPhone age yet, this is very exciting. I wanted the Original DROID really really bad when it first came out, but I still had a full year left before I could upgrade, and didn't want to pay a bunch out of pocket for the phone since I was newly married. Looks like the year long wait will have paid dividends, and I'm really excited.
Anyway, excited to be here and thanks again guys!
For those of us (like me) who have not joined the SmartPhone age yet, this is very exciting. I wanted the Original DROID really really bad when it first came out, but I still had a full year left before I could upgrade, and didn't want to pay a bunch out of pocket for the phone since I was newly married. Looks like the year long wait will have paid dividends, and I'm really excited.
Anyway, excited to be here and thanks again guys!
Why in the next hour? If he isn't meeting with them until tonight...then we have a lot longer to wait...let's not get peoples hopes up.
Just got off with a member from the HTC Support Hotline 866-449-8358 and he said he has never heard of the HTC Incredible HD and he even googled it so he could see what I was talking about and said that was the 1st he has ever heard of or seen the device. He said his supervisor may know more about it and put me on hold only to come back and say nope. He also said they usually get their hands on devices weeks to months in advance and so having some launch in 17 days does not seem realistic to him. I then asked about the Merge and he said the same thing about that device.....so I guess take it with a grain of salt. I can not wait for someone to say, "Oh the HTC Inc HD, that is a great phone and it is in our system and you can pre-order it today". The rep did say that it was a nice kickstand and looked like a nice looking phone from what he saw on Google. UGHHHHHHHHHHH
I am so torn!!!!! Please MIAMI save us
I am so torn!!!!! Please MIAMI save us
Wow I leave this thread yesterday and there's almost 30 more pages of posts.
Is there any new info that I was not in the chat.
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Is there any new info that I was not in the chat.
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Vanilla Ice
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I have a little something that can also help out a little. Some of you may have been following the comments on BGR.com ever since they reported this phone. Any one remember user biff6789? It's been about a month since the last time i heard from him but here is some info he shared with us.
Gorgeous, mysterious, EVO-ish HTC device headed for Verizon | BGR
Biff6789:
UPDATE:
Ok, I got an email from my friend in Seattle this weekend. He had some good news and some bad news about this device...
Good news: He said that Verizon is slating a Nov/Dec launch for this device, so it should drop before year end!
Bad news: When I questioned him on this and asked why an LTE device would come out this year when Verizon specifically said they weren't releasing any LTE phones til next year, he responded: "Cuz the test units floating around out there right now are only 3G phones, rendering the front-facing camera essentially useless"
He said there's a small chance they could upgrade it to a LTE radio before launch, but he probably wouldn't hear about the switch til the last minute
If you ask me, the fact that it's slated for a 2010 launch, and the fact that test devices are only 3G leads me to think it probably won't be upgraded to an LTE phone. Sad
He's still in Seattle all weekend meeting with HTC execs, so I'll update more when/if I hear anymore from him next week
biff6789:
@fest
"This device" means the one pictured above (i.e. the one with the 4.3" screen, kickstand, et al). What you're looking at above is exactly what he's been seeing. I asked him to sneak a pic for me but he said owners of the test units have explicitly declined my request (as expected, I guess)
@Prasad
We can still hope, but test units of this device out there are only 3G phones right now. And since Verizon is slating this for Nov/Dec launch while HTC simultaneously said this week "no LTE phones til 2011", the odds of this device being 4G are not good
@this is it
It IS coming to Verizon and is being tested on Verizon's network as we speak. As for it looking too much like the EVO, take a look at all the phones HTC just released in Europe. They all look exactly like this bad boy... so it's actually quite probable that the device above is exactly what the final version will look like
@everyone
I know you guys have tons of questions. I do too. Trust me, I'm asking all the same questions you guys are. But finding out info is tough since there's not just some centralized place where he can go to find out info. He has to just keep his eyes peeled for the device and when he sees someone with it, he asks whatever he can. But often, the testers tell him they can't say anything. But once in a while some people talk so I will feed you the answers as soon as I get them. But as for now, I've posted absolutely EVERYTHING I know
biff6789:
Well guys, my buddy finished up all his business trips, but wasn't able to hear much more so I don't have much more to add, and likely will not hear anything else until Verizon/HTC drops something more official on this device since he's done traveling now
He mentioned the new roadmap to me in an email this morning and said he heard rumors that Verizon has considered holding this phone til next year so that it could be released with an LTE radio (which would make more sense considering it has a front-facing camera), but said he also talked to another guy who said it's still slated for a Nov/Dec launch... So who knows? It seems that the process is evolving and that Verizon hasn't made an official decision yet
Anyway, to recap everything I've heard so far, both my buddies have told me that this is a CDMA device and is confirmed for Verizon (not Sprint). Test units floating around are only using a 3G radio, but of course it's possible that they could modify it to an LTE radio should they choose. They have now heard two launch dates: 1) Nov/Dec (which would make it 3G), OR 2) Early next year (which would likely involve a 4G radio and likely a faster processor per Qualcomm's guidelines).
Sorry, I don't have anything else to add. But I've told you guys everything I've heard so hopefully it helped you all out a little bit. I've told the truth in everything I've heard, and have even used the fake alias biff6789 to prevent my friends from getting in trouble.
I'm anxious for more info on this device too, but it looks like I'm now in the boat with you guys waiting to hear something from Verizon/HTC/BGR/Engadget.
Good luck to you all. I'll see you in line the day this device drops
Gorgeous, mysterious, EVO-ish HTC device headed for Verizon | BGR
Biff6789:
UPDATE:
Ok, I got an email from my friend in Seattle this weekend. He had some good news and some bad news about this device...
Good news: He said that Verizon is slating a Nov/Dec launch for this device, so it should drop before year end!
Bad news: When I questioned him on this and asked why an LTE device would come out this year when Verizon specifically said they weren't releasing any LTE phones til next year, he responded: "Cuz the test units floating around out there right now are only 3G phones, rendering the front-facing camera essentially useless"
He said there's a small chance they could upgrade it to a LTE radio before launch, but he probably wouldn't hear about the switch til the last minute
If you ask me, the fact that it's slated for a 2010 launch, and the fact that test devices are only 3G leads me to think it probably won't be upgraded to an LTE phone. Sad
He's still in Seattle all weekend meeting with HTC execs, so I'll update more when/if I hear anymore from him next week
biff6789:
@fest
"This device" means the one pictured above (i.e. the one with the 4.3" screen, kickstand, et al). What you're looking at above is exactly what he's been seeing. I asked him to sneak a pic for me but he said owners of the test units have explicitly declined my request (as expected, I guess)
@Prasad
We can still hope, but test units of this device out there are only 3G phones right now. And since Verizon is slating this for Nov/Dec launch while HTC simultaneously said this week "no LTE phones til 2011", the odds of this device being 4G are not good
@this is it
It IS coming to Verizon and is being tested on Verizon's network as we speak. As for it looking too much like the EVO, take a look at all the phones HTC just released in Europe. They all look exactly like this bad boy... so it's actually quite probable that the device above is exactly what the final version will look like
@everyone
I know you guys have tons of questions. I do too. Trust me, I'm asking all the same questions you guys are. But finding out info is tough since there's not just some centralized place where he can go to find out info. He has to just keep his eyes peeled for the device and when he sees someone with it, he asks whatever he can. But often, the testers tell him they can't say anything. But once in a while some people talk so I will feed you the answers as soon as I get them. But as for now, I've posted absolutely EVERYTHING I know
biff6789:
Well guys, my buddy finished up all his business trips, but wasn't able to hear much more so I don't have much more to add, and likely will not hear anything else until Verizon/HTC drops something more official on this device since he's done traveling now
He mentioned the new roadmap to me in an email this morning and said he heard rumors that Verizon has considered holding this phone til next year so that it could be released with an LTE radio (which would make more sense considering it has a front-facing camera), but said he also talked to another guy who said it's still slated for a Nov/Dec launch... So who knows? It seems that the process is evolving and that Verizon hasn't made an official decision yet
Anyway, to recap everything I've heard so far, both my buddies have told me that this is a CDMA device and is confirmed for Verizon (not Sprint). Test units floating around are only using a 3G radio, but of course it's possible that they could modify it to an LTE radio should they choose. They have now heard two launch dates: 1) Nov/Dec (which would make it 3G), OR 2) Early next year (which would likely involve a 4G radio and likely a faster processor per Qualcomm's guidelines).
Sorry, I don't have anything else to add. But I've told you guys everything I've heard so hopefully it helped you all out a little bit. I've told the truth in everything I've heard, and have even used the fake alias biff6789 to prevent my friends from getting in trouble.
I'm anxious for more info on this device too, but it looks like I'm now in the boat with you guys waiting to hear something from Verizon/HTC/BGR/Engadget.
Good luck to you all. I'll see you in line the day this device drops
FootballBanker
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Are you talking about an announcement or something from Miami?
Well he gets off at 4, so I was being optimistic
Miami has not shared any info with meWhile I agree that this will stink, let me ask you this: What are your alternatives?
Can a locked bootloader (eg: DX) be taken as far as to totally prevent ANY root-enabled apps? Or are kernel mods about as far as it goes?
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Not as far as I know. It can only prevent you from loading a custom rom.
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Droid X has it's workarounds to the bootloader issues through koush's bootstrapper, which is pretty much clockwork recovery, allowing custom roms w/o kernel changes. The kernel can also be overclocked but will revert to stock setting upon reboot. The first month i didn't bother rooting my X because it's an amazing device even at stock settings.
BTW, gaining superuser(root) access WILL enable all root-dependent apps.
BTW, gaining superuser(root) access WILL enable all root-dependent apps.
Just got off with a member from the HTC Support Hotline 866-449-8358 and he said he has never heard of the HTC Incredible HD and he even googled it so he could see what I was talking about and said that was the 1st he has ever heard of or seen the device. He said his supervisor may know more about it and put me on hold only to come back and say nope. He also said they usually get their hands on devices weeks to months in advance and so having some launch in 17 days does not seem realistic to him. I then asked about the Merge and he said the same thing about that device.....so I guess take it with a grain of salt. I can not wait for someone to say, "Oh the HTC Inc HD, that is a great phone and it is in our system and you can pre-order it today". The rep did say that it was a nice kickstand and looked like a nice looking phone from what he saw on Google. UGHHHHHHHHHHH
I am so torn!!!!! Please MIAMI save us
The release of this phone is supposed to be kept secret so why would anyone just give you confidential info on it. They are told to KEEP QUIET so Verizon can sell more Incredibles before the release. Thats the point of keeping this leak under wraps.
Just got off with a member from the HTC Support Hotline 866-449-8358 and he said he has never heard of the HTC Incredible HD and he even googled it so he could see what I was talking about and said that was the 1st he has ever heard of or seen the device. He said his supervisor may know more about it and put me on hold only to come back and say nope. He also said they usually get their hands on devices weeks to months in advance and so having some launch in 17 days does not seem realistic to him. I then asked about the Merge and he said the same thing about that device.....so I guess take it with a grain of salt. I can not wait for someone to say, "Oh the HTC Inc HD, that is a great phone and it is in our system and you can pre-order it today". The rep did say that it was a nice kickstand and looked like a nice looking phone from what he saw on Google. UGHHHHHHHHHHH
I am so torn!!!!! Please MIAMI save us
The release of this phone is supposed to be kept secret so why would anyone just give you confidential info on it. They are told to KEEP QUIET so Verizon can sell more Incredibles before the release. Thats the point of keeping this leak under wraps.
I agree with H4, if VZW is trying to clear the Incredible out of their inventory, they probably have an NDA with HTC to make sure no one releases any early info.
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