When you buy a gun, its not ok to shoot someone with it. You cannot use your phone to steel teathering. Its a product and it helps create someone's job.
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P3Droid: Some Food for Thought - Bootloaders, Rooting, Manufacturers, and Carriers
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When you buy a gun, its not ok to shoot someone with it. You cannot use your phone to steel teathering. Its a product and it helps create someone's job.
Exactly, further best buy doesn't supply your cable. If you were stealing cable, your cable provider would and could shut you down. I still fail to see how people can realistically argue that tethering is not stealing. Talk about denial. Its amazing
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I was specifically told there was a 5GB cap by VZW. Granted, this was almost two years ago... so that may no longer be accurate. That is what I was told though. I have never even gotten close to going over that amount, so I have no idea of the consequences. I was just told that if I didn't go over it, there wouldn't be any problems. And there haven't been.
Denial?
I asked VERIZON at the time of my contract, not members of droidforums.net
It's like as a teenager, asking my parents to go to a movie on a weekday and they say "okay, as long as you don't abuse your curfew". Then my brother comes along and says "you can't". I asked my parents if it was okay, I don't care what my brother thinks.
Sorry bros, Dad said it was okay.
I asked VERIZON at the time of my contract, not members of droidforums.net
It's like as a teenager, asking my parents to go to a movie on a weekday and they say "okay, as long as you don't abuse your curfew". Then my brother comes along and says "you can't". I asked my parents if it was okay, I don't care what my brother thinks.
Sorry bros, Dad said it was okay.
This would not bother me if Verizon would offer software upgrades and support for devices that are still under contract, but they are not. I got my Droid just over a year ago, and if anything happens with it, I'm SOL. If I didn't root the thing, I'd be rocking a highly underclocked Froyo with no hope of it ever improving, even if the hardware of the phone itself lends it to be much more than they wanted.
They sign you to the contract, then hold back how often your device gets Google upgrades, and then when we find a way around it, they overly crack down to the point where everyone is screwed.
And lets not overlook the fact that Verizon is forcing these locked bootloaders at the same time the iPhone comes. Funny, cause the iPhone gets constant upgrades, and no matter what version you have, you will continuously see improvements until your contract is up.
They sign you to the contract, then hold back how often your device gets Google upgrades, and then when we find a way around it, they overly crack down to the point where everyone is screwed.
And lets not overlook the fact that Verizon is forcing these locked bootloaders at the same time the iPhone comes. Funny, cause the iPhone gets constant upgrades, and no matter what version you have, you will continuously see improvements until your contract is up.
OneTenderRebel
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Actually I would trust quite a few people here on their word over something a VZW Rep said. One thing is certain, most vzw reps are as in the dark on these issues as we are as consumers.
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1linuxfreak
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How are you stealing something you pay for (data usage) ?
Now if you hacked the network and got data for free (like stealing cable) then you certainly should have to pay . Tethering is not using the network without paying , you are paying for the data . If I flashed a ROM on my Cable box I bought that allowed me to watch through a laptop with a USB cable , am I stealing something I pay for already ? Although I am using the Cable Box outside it's intended purpose the data is paid for every month .
If I break into my own home am I a thief/robber ? NO !
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BigMcGuire
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5GB was the old 3G Data Card limit. And that's the limit that Verizon set for tethering on 3G phones that could tether. I talked to about 5 reps (in the IT Department) asking them if I could pay for tethering on my Droid 1 because I wanted to tether legally. They said they couldn't add the package to my plan and to just use the market apps for tethering and keep it under 5GB and I'll be ok. That's where 5GB came from because that's what most of Verizon told us Droid 1 users to keep it under if we were tethering.
OneTenderRebel
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You DO NOT pay for unlimited data for anything you want. You pay for unlimited data for one device and one device only. How do people not understand that. The analogies are all just justifications for making yourself feel ok about tethering.
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Verizon reps are also notorious for telling people to install Task Killer's to fix their Android phones.
I just wanted everyone to read this. And then read it again. If you're not sure about it, read it one more time. This is absolutely correct.
Please let's not start the iPhone conspiracies. This has nothing to do with that. They are two separate issues. The lack of updates for Droids and WinMo phones on Verizon have been a problem since LONG before Apple was in the picture. Apple does the updates personally. Google does not on Android. Huge difference there.
As far as the reason for rooting and getting your own updates and upgrades, I completely agree with that and that also has been my primary reason. That is also the main reason I want root, I don't trust them for timely upgrades.
We need a support origination like the NRA to support this couse :biggrin:
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