P3Droid: Some Food for Thought - Bootloaders, Rooting, Manufacturers, and Carriers

[Its TwiX]

I give up on this forum. People freak about anything on here. p3droid is covering his ass for releasing a unreleased firmware that Verizon CAN see in his GB Droid 2/X ROM. No one is listening to me because they all believe he's a prophet of the Android world.

YES p3droid NO p3droid HOW HIGH p3droid.

I think your lying! I've seen him raise the dead and turn plastic wrap into an Android device! I was blind and now I can see!!

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[zinethar]

OK maybe I am missing the point but... I have heard many people say (even if not planning to really do it) that when 4g comes they are dumping their internet providers and using their cell to provide their basic internet. I see this as a shot across that bow. I'd hate to see it go but I would much rather they charged reasonable fees for the data actually used and allow me to use it in any way i desire. My money - their data. As long as my money has a place to go it will follow the best deals/service. If customers flee, prices will change. Basic economics. Some people actually live where dialup is the only option (or sat). They often use/abuse the cell phones to augment this. Charge them a fair price. I need to tether about once a month to do real work while on a bus. It is that or trying to enter data on forms on tiny cell screen using touch keyboards. If i use too much data - bill me. I will pay what is fair and drop them like a hot rock if it is not. $20/month for that option is not fair. Enough complain a solution will in time come. Verizon and ATT also provide wireless. Bus companies and other carriers are now beginning to provide wireless for their customers. Verizon and ATT lose. Too bad...

 

[gflam]

I myself am not a huge data user i tether maybe 5 times a year if that only on very rare occasions do i ever break out the tethering cause my home/dorm internet is just so much faster. I however am very sad to hear things like this i love rooting and the openness merely because i like to tweak, customize and push my skills i have always had so much fun just discovering the great capabilities of the android system and continue to find new things everyday which is what i love i'd be so bored without root as i know many of us flashaholics here would be i think the amount of people who actually do use tethering a lot is pretty low and have never seen any harm in what we do here. I'd be pretty sad to see it all end

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[jaycemiskel]

If I brick my phone while rooting flashing a rom or something like that, then I deserve to eat the cost of having it fixed. If I'm rooted and I experience a problem that non rooted users experience then they should fix my phone regardless of whether or not my phone is rooted. I realize that tethering is against the TOS but unless they make it cheaper I'm not paying them an extra 20 dollars when I tether maybe once every 3 months and for very short periods. Especially since I mostly use wifi instead of their network. If they want to terminate me for that I won't fight it but I seriously doubt they will.

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[Doulandroid]

They can cap data because a corperation can profit from it, but the government can't cap (and trade) pollutants pouring into our country because it would cost corperations money. That makes sense, because this country was founded on corperations, not individual freedom and the pursuit of happiness. Root is freedom people, that's why we are all here reading this thread, and I woke up this morning hoping p3droid's post was all a bad dream. Until the third shoe falls(?) Let's just all shake hands and change our ROM or boot animation for the Nth time this year. 8^)

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[zero7404]

those on here that bricked their phones and got help from within the forum, then returned their phones to vzw for warranty replacement .... have some of the blame to share in this whole fiasco.

on the flip side, other platforms have less headaches to worry about, hence less issues for both the carrier and the customer. blackberry and apple are both less hassle platforms than android.

 

[zero7404]

Especially since I mostly use wifi instead of their network.
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maybe verizon should pay customers that use wifi, because it's not their hardware ....

who the hell owns the internet, anyway ?

 

[Narsil]

Rant! Rant! Rant!

Personal Opinion Stated As Fact!

Redonkulously Long Nested Quote Not Edited For Pertinent Info.

Additional Personal Opinion Stated As Fact!

Ad Hominem Attack Against Those Foolish Enough To Disagree With Me!

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I'm glad I got that out of my system. I was feeling left out. :icon_eek:

 

[dfuser312553]

^Lawlz that's awesome!

 

[Jecht]

I dont know p3droid he could be a great guy. Heard his great work. My question is why havent we heard this from and news departments? Something like this I would think would be big news. Even if it was on the tech side. I have not seen one link to a Site that backs what p3droid has stated. Has anyone got in touch with a tech news site and see if they could find out something on this? Someone yells fire and everyone scrambles and we have mass hysteria. People trying to justify their tethering, Their rooting. Others saying see told you that you was breaking the ToS.

We have the words of one person that seemed to have a moment of clarity and trying to repent his sins. Maybe the big companies got to him for something he did? Maybe its the biggest late April fools joke ever created? I am sure Verizon can look up anyones phone and see if there rooted. Heck it shows up on our system info on our phones the roms we use. The Kernels we use. To think verizon cant see this on their screen is plain stupid. You really think they need to push an OTA to see which phones are rooted and which isnt? Your market account is tied to your google email account. They can see the wireless app was downloaded to your phone. You cant hide your doings on your phone from your carriers.


I know I am new around here as I mostly hang out at Phandroid. I just wanted to say what I thought about all this. Until I see something more official from a more reliable platform than a person spilling his guts On stuff he heard that was hearsay at best. How many times have we heard where we work. The plant is closing? THeres going to be a layoff? The company is being sold? There going to fire so and so? Rumors can run a muck and it seems to have here. I have nothing against P3droid but someone that dont list his sources at all. How creditable can he be with this posting?

Maybe I am wrong who really knows whats going on. One thing I do see is a lot of scared people trying to justify tethering with a Chinese buffet. Now that's desperate to say the least. Did you sign a ToS at the buffet place before you ate? If not then you cant use it to justify breaking your ToS with your carrier.



Its late and I have to get to bed. 6am is not that far away.

 

[Big Ry]

Block illegal tethering...sure. Prevent unapproved and potentially dangerous firmware from being loaded...understandable from the perspective of warranty returns. But for the love of christ, let us at least remove the garbage UIs and bloatware. And a little OCing never hurt anything.

I don't know that I completely agree with p3droid though. Htc locked boodloaders with no encryption despite motorola having successfully done it months before? Unlockable xoom bootloader? I'm gonna give this some more time before I jump to conclusions.

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[BlueSami]

People are bringing way to much law and logic to the table! Its just not right! Lol

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[Doulandroid]

Pandora and a host of other app providers are getting ready to be raked over the coals for possible data mining /info sharing. For carriers to implement p3's April fools joke, they would be guilty of the same breaches in consumer privacy that Google and Pandora are getting a stern lecture about. Maybe, just a thought.

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[Doulandroid]

Here's one link if anyone is interested, and a" do not track "requirement is being proposed. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/04/04/financial/f131316D80.DTL

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[TheTyler0013]

Pandora and a host of other app providers are getting ready to be raked over the coals for possible data mining /info sharing. For carriers to implement p3's April fools joke, they would be guilty of the same breaches in consumer privacy that Google and Pandora are getting a stern lecture about. Maybe, just a thought.

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This was all just a April fools joke by P3?

If this is legitimate should I just give up and unrest my device ?