PSX4Droid => General Discussion

[albertcolin]

The game will be fresh clip. I have not mine, but I can see the use definetey. I'll keep it in my computer bag anyway, it goes everywhere I GO.A playstation emulator would be nice to have on my phone. And for everyone wondering if I could really cope with it, I've been following this project, OpenPandora, for some time and has very similar specifications to the Droid. I know because I really ps1 emulator is running to fast for her, they have not made the leap from the picture, I still believe, although I can be wrong about that. As always have a N64 emulator apparently its much more difficult to develop a play station emulator N64 emulator.:lifting:

 

[kevenz]

Therev29: greate guide but unfortunately all the "Speed improvements" aren't true, to me at least.

I have a Motorola Milestone with android 2.1, rooted and overclocked at 800mhz.

Overclocking to 1.2ghz doesn't improve the framerate.... turning the sound off doesn't help...... compressing iso to pbp doesn't help..... I wish there was an option to show FPS because I would record a video to justify me

1.1 is the fastest so far.....

 

[trev186]

So I tested a few new games (I am getting a consistent 80% compatibility with games I test now and most of the games which do not work are CDDA which is being worked on by the dev)

If you are having conflicting issues with any of the above games on 1.5 try reinstalling the app from scratch rather than updating AND do not use old save states.

I may have Parasite Eve 2 working past the published by screen soon

Gran Turismo 1: works

Gran Turismo 2: Both discs work

Beyond the Beyond : as others have stated works

Eternal eyes: As others have stated works

Medal of Honor 1 and 2(underground): Both work

Wing Commander 3: Did not work freezes after sound crashes in start of game. Cut scenes have no sound.

Testing today:

Alone in the Dark the New Night mare, Dragon Valor, Dragon Warrior 7, Driver 2.

For the complete list of what I have tested see below:




Alone in the Dark 2 ( Works no problems about 80 % speed)

Arc the Lad 1-3: All Run just fine

Civilization 2: Works no problems whatsoever

Alundra-No Issues

Azure Dreams-No Issues

Gran Turismo 1: works

Gran Turismo 2: Both discs work

Beyond the Beyond : as others have stated works

Eternal eyes: As others have stated works

Medal of Honor 1 and 2(underground): Both work


X-Com UFO Defense: Works. Note kinda hard to find a working ROM for this. It also does not have CD music in it because of how PSX4droid runs which makes the EBOOT 57MB (smallest one I have seen) People who love this game test it and tell me if it works...cause I have no idea how to play this game. I got to some globe thing and it was trying my patience BUT it is in the IGN top 100 games list so I want it on my phone to learn one day

Brave Fencer Musashi- I have not issues on night or day levels and it runs at decent speed

Breath of Fire 3- No issues

Breath of Fire 4- No issues and menu does not cause game to freeze or go black for me

Dino Crisis 1- No issues

Dino Crisis 2- No issues

Red Alert: Works great

Fear Effect- No issues

Fear Effect 2- No issues

FF7- No issues and submarine issue is fixed

FF8- Garden moves now but over world is still very slow but game is playable.

FF9- Game only freezes in disc 1 at the dali airship now. Confirmed from Slighmd the game is playable 100% from there on crash free. man up and learn how to use the PSX on your PC and just by pass that until Zodttd fixes it.

Final Fantasy Tactics- No issues

Grandia- No issues

Hoshigami ruining the Blue Earth- No issues

Dune 2000: Works good

Bushido Blade 1+2: Works just find one that is not half screen

Hot Shots golf- No issues

Jade Cocoon- No issues

Legend of Dragoon- No issues

Mech Warrior 2 31st century combat: Pal version works downloaded one which had .ape files seperated and deleted them. Will not work as Eboot Bin only

Legend of Legaia- Still freezes the first time you learn an arts move; this is only a problem with Vahn. Play the intro on PC and you can play the rest of the game from there. Just be careful when learning new moves or using hyper arts but VERY doable

Lunar 1- No issues

Lunar 2- No issues

Parasite Eve 1- No issues

Resident Evil 1- No issues

Resident Evil 2- No issues

Resident Evil 3- No issues

Silent Hill- No issues

Star Ocean 2- No issues. Starting as the guy game makes annoying buzz sound until you save at first save point and then reload from memory card

Tales of Destiny- No issues

Tales of Destiny 2- No issues

Tomb Raider 3-5: work

Twisted Metal 1-4: work; recommend altering Controls

Vagrant Story : Works Now AI do load !!!!

Vandal Hearts 1 and 2: Both work

Wild Arms 1 and 2: Both work

Xenogears: Works

Driver 1 and 2: both work

Warcraft 2: works

Riven: Surprisingly works seeing how Myst did not...

Tenchu: works

Rayman 2: works

Einhander: works

Suikoden 1 and 2: Both work

Baulder's Gate : works

Valkryie Profile: I got this to work. For the intro to the game you need to use the PC PSX emulator trick. It freezes randomly during conversation which has voice overs. However majority of the time is ok. Once you get control of a character (Angrhiem) you can save and then play on from your phone. I played for a good 2 hours with no problems. Ovbiously this may happen again but if so just do the PC/PSX emulator swap and you can still play the majority of the game on your phone

GAMES THAT DO NOT WORK:

1. Front Mission 3 (trying to see if there is a PC PSX emulator work around for this) (PSP emulators barely even run this)
2. Rayman 1 (usess CDDA)(Dont bother getting this on PSX4droid you can get it for GBA with same exact graphics !!!!)
3.Tomb Raider 1- Wont work CDDA not supported
4.Tomb Raider 2- Wont work CDDA Not supported
5. Croc wont work uses CDDA
6. Metal Gear Solid (CDDA issue as well I think not for sure...)
7. Parasite Eve 2 (note very hard to emulate because of strange video coding)
8. Metal Slug X character select screen freezes game
9. Tekken 3 (too slow to be enjoyable) (May be fixed when Android 3.0 comes out)
10. Thousand Arms (ground is black and game freezes shortly in)
11. Mortal Combat Trilogy (CDDA game) Plus that series is boring
12. Wing Commander 4 does not work. It loads ok but during intro movies it stutters a ton and then eventually freezes
13. Soviet Strike: Sadly does not work. Also has the CDDA issue. It gets to a EA logo and then freezes while it loops sound.
14. Wing Commander 3. freezes after talking to someone..sound loops looks like another CDDA issue


I test all of my games by at least testing the core functions in the game. For example combat, menu selection FMV sequences, ETC. I do not have the time to play through the entire game, however I beleive if you can get into the actual game engine to the first save point the game is "Playable" because you are able to jump between a PC PSX emulator to by pass any issues. Most games I have noticed the errors are far and few in between so it does not hamper you too much.

All the games I am testing are games I want (besides MK Trilogy ). Let me know if anyone has suggestions as I almost have every title I was hoping to get. Now I just have to wait for 64 GB Micro SD cards or larger !

Also I omitted testing some games such as Nuclear Strike because they have a N64 counter part or in some cases a GBA counter part! I recommend using one of those because they are more reliable than our huge bulky img and bin files for PSX and take up a fraction of the space. My best success with this is Rayman which is perfectly playable on GBA and does not work on PSX

Always feel free to email me if you have any suggestions or new finds contrary to my list.

The toughest games to debug are the ones which freeze at the "Published by" screens like Parasite Eve 2 because I cannot test these on a PC PSX emulator. I have tried using several tools to "RIP" those out of the game file to see if I can at least get to a memory card load screen but to little avail. I am not skilled enough at hacking these ROMs to do it. If anyone knows how to do this please find such titles on my list and give it a go.

Also Check out SCUMMVM for Android 2.0 is in beta and not on the market but google it and you will find the .APK file. It works great for games like Day of the Tentacle. Also allows me to play Broken Sword 1 and 2 and save some space as they are smaller than the .EBOOT files for PSX4Droid. Supposedly Myst and Riven will be supported over SCUMMVM in the future which would allow for more space and an alternative for Myst since it does not work on PSX4droid ATM

I have a request as well to any one who may be in the know. There is supposedly a never released Fallout port for the PSX. If anyone can find it or know where to get it I would be very happy ! The Baulder's Gate PSX version I found is a similar case and can be found in the SNESoRama forums for anyone interested.

Updated list of PSX games I have working in 1.5 on my N1 with default Bios running 2.2. all using 30 FPS setting. Overall the speed is the same or faster than 1.1 for me and I am very happy with the update.

Note Games with CDDA will not work.

Note games with multiple discs may or may not allow you to progress. If they allow you to save at the disc change screen it is no problem but some just tell you to insert without saving. These you will need to use your computer to change discs until a swap disc or insert disc option is added

If you still have issues send me a save state of the game you are having problems with and see if I get the same issue ([email protected]).

 

[trev186]

1.5 is not twice slower than 1.1 it is somewhat slower but slight I would say 5%. If you are loading from old save states then the most likely reason it is so slow is because the save states are corrupt. USE MEMORY CARD SAVE STATES

Sound on the other hand is very slow. You can somewhat fix this by changing the sound to mono in game mode

You are correct I have seen no improvements by disabling sound in options

Bof4 and Bof3 both work in 1.5 I have had no problems playing them now.

To transfer memory cards to and from your phone to PC Just check your .psx4droid folder on your SD card.

The "Mcd1000" are the cards. use them in a PC PSX emulator with the same name and format. (PSxfin i the the best cause it uses the cards as they are in your phone)

If you need more detailed help on swapping email me.

 

[trev186]

I also just tested the following this morning

Dragon Valor : works looks like a fun game

Driver 2: Works without issue

Alone in the Dark the New nightmare: Works and is kinda hard to fine.

Dragon Warrior 7: does not work. Loads only half way can only see the background. Trying to see if I can work around it. I got through the naming part which I could not see on my phone by using a PC PSX emulator. Once you gain control of your character though the game's pixels explode into green and you cant see. I am sending a save state to the dev

 

[h4ckd]

@trev186 tell me your setup for running psx4droid. (kernel,setcpu,background programs running,etc..)

 

[trev186]

@trev186 tell me your setup for running psx4droid. (kernel,setcpu,background programs running,etc..)

Nexus 1, Not overclocked running stock Froyo 2.2. nothing out of the ordinary running in the background. Gmail etc. Advanced task killer .

I use the default bios and run PSX4droid on 1.5. sometimes I swap to 1.1 if I know I am going to play a game for a long period which is compatible with it for sound purposes.

If I use save states they are from 1.5 only when I load them. In order to get games to work properly after updating to 1.5 I made a new memory card save when possible from where a save state was and re loaded it

 

[h4ckd]

@trev186 tell me your setup for running psx4droid. (kernel,setcpu,background programs running,etc..)

Nexus 1, Not overclocked running stock Froyo 2.2. nothing out of the ordinary running in the background. Gmail etc. Advanced task killer .

I use the default bios and run PSX4droid on 1.5. sometimes I swap to 1.1 if I know I am going to play a game for a long period which is compatible with it for sound purposes.

If I use save states they are from 1.5 only when I load them. In order to get games to work properly after updating to 1.5 I made a new memory card save when possible from where a save state was and re loaded it

yeah I have to overclock my droid usually in the 1ghz range give or take but it usually works pretty well but gets hot.

 

[trev186]

@trev186 tell me your setup for running psx4droid. (kernel,setcpu,background programs running,etc..)

Nexus 1, Not overclocked running stock Froyo 2.2. nothing out of the ordinary running in the background. Gmail etc. Advanced task killer .

I use the default bios and run PSX4droid on 1.5. sometimes I swap to 1.1 if I know I am going to play a game for a long period which is compatible with it for sound purposes.

If I use save states they are from 1.5 only when I load them. In order to get games to work properly after updating to 1.5 I made a new memory card save when possible from where a save state was and re loaded it

yeah I have to overclock my droid usually in the 1ghz range give or take but it usually works pretty well but gets hot. anyway can you send me a link to your bios files. Preferably ones you found to work the best.

It has been so long since I downloaded my Bios file. I have not clue where I got it from. I got this the day it came out and have not swapped the bios since.

From my testing the Bios file used has very little to do with the issues.

 

[h4ckd]

@trev186 what version do you find works the best for more demanding games? I have all the versions since 1.1. I found that 1.1 did work well for sound as well. and also I can't get eboot to work at all. idk..

 

[trev186]

@trev186 what version do you find works the best for more demanding games? I have all the versions since 1.1. I found that 1.1 did work well for sound as well. and also I can't get eboot to work at all. idk..

Sound is best in 1.1 and for slightly faster for some games like 5%

1.5 is the most compatible with games and crashes the least. I use 1.5 most the time and just make sure sound is set to mono which helps.

The default bios the app recommend SCPH1001 seems like the best. I am going to start testing the 15 games I found which did not work today and see If I can make them though. One of those ways will be trying a few different Bios I have read on but I have not tested this yet and also doubt it will have much effect

 

[h4ckd]

@trev186 what version do you find works the best for more demanding games? I have all the versions since 1.1. I found that 1.1 did work well for sound as well. and also I can't get eboot to work at all. idk..

Sound is best in 1.1 and for slightly faster for some games like 5%

1.5 is the most compatible with games and crashes the least. I use 1.5 most the time and just make sure sound is set to mono which helps.

The default bios the app recommend SCPH1001 seems like the best. I am going to start testing the 15 games I found which did not work today and see If I can make them though. One of those ways will be trying a few different Bios I have read on but I have not tested this yet and also doubt it will have much effect

yeah let me know your results, and I also have a .zip file of all bios files that can be used with psx4droid. scph1001 - scph7502. let me know if you want them to help with your testing bro.

 

[kevenz]

you're running all games you listed at 30fps on a stock Nexus one? sorry but I hardly believe it...... unless the Nexus has a really awesome video card..... I can run my phone at 1ghz too and it's never that fast.

 

[trev186]

@Kevenz

Why would I lie about how they are running?

I have spent a lot of time testing them. Nexus One runs them just fine. Have you tested them your self and have a different opinion on any of them?

If so Tell me which game and what problem and I will see if I get the same issue

When I run into problems I specify them as well. Also a Milestone over clocked to 1 Ghz is not the same as a Nexus One running a 1 Ghz snapdragon processor.

 

[trev186]

GAMES THAT DO NOT WORK:


2. Rayman 1 (usess CDDA)(Dont bother getting this on PSX4droid you can get it for GBA with same exact graphics !!!!)
3.Tomb Raider 1- Wont work CDDA not supported
4.Tomb Raider 2- Wont work CDDA Not supported
5. Croc wont work uses CDDA
6. Metal Gear Solid (CDDA issue as well I think not for sure...)
11. Mortal Combat Trilogy (CDDA game) Plus that series is boring
12. Wing Commander 4 does not work. It loads ok but during intro movies it stutters a ton and then eventually freezes
13. Soviet Strike: Sadly does not work. Also has the CDDA issue. It gets to a EA logo and then freezes while it loops sound.
14. Wing Commander 3. freezes after talking to someone..sound loops looks like another CDDA issue

I retested the above games this week to try and get them to work. I used Pocket ISO, Ultra ISO, ISObuster and PSXuripper to try and rip and replace the CDDA files from the games and replace them with dummy files. Sadly this did not fix any of the games and make them any more runnable

Until Zodttd updates the app to allow for CDDA (which would require the emulator to be able to read the Cue and Sub files associated with these games) I cannot get them to work.

I am going to try and get the below games this week which are not CDDA related to run past their freeze points:

Parasite Eve 2
Metal Slug X
Thousand Arms
Front Mission3