rubiX Focused 1.6

[jacksradio]

I have a question that may seem strange...but what is the 3G hotspot feature? I don't see it in my phone and I have been using an app from the market called WiFi tether I think. I have had two laptops connected through it at the same time. Am I missing something? Please forgive my ignorance.

 

[digitalslacker]

I have a question that may seem strange...but what is the 3G hotspot feature? I don't see it in my phone and I have been using an app from the market called WiFi tether I think. I have had two laptops connected through it at the same time. Am I missing something? Please forgive my ignorance.

it's the same thing but it's core functionality in Froyo.
no 3rd party app needed but the same thing is accomplished.
at least thats my understanding.

 

[sephtin]

I have a question that may seem strange...but what is the 3G hotspot feature? I don't see it in my phone and I have been using an app from the market called WiFi tether I think. I have had two laptops connected through it at the same time. Am I missing something? Please forgive my ignorance.

it's the same thing but it's core functionality in Froyo.
no 3rd party app needed but the same thing is accomplished.
at least thats my understanding.

Ya, the stock 3g hotspot is pay for.. something like 10$ a month from Verizon, and limited bandwidth of 5gig? I think.. (don't hold me to that, that's from memory...).
There is a patch around that corrects that, but the 3g hotspot doesn't work on Focused anyway..

 

[bozchevelle]

I have a question on backing up our phone, When we open bootstrap for Droid X and hit bootstrap recovery and hit reboot recovery, and it goes to the screen that has the green lines on it, and hit backup system. That is the backup we need if something goes wrong during an install right?

The other backup app's are just used for backing up your program app's right?

Thanks for your help on this!!

 

[digitalslacker]

I have a question on backing up our phone, When we open bootstrap for Droid X and hit bootstrap recovery and hit reboot recovery, and it goes to the screen that has the green lines on it, and hit backup system. That is the backup we need if something goes wrong during an install right?

The other backup app's are just used for backing up your program app's right?

Thanks for your help on this!!

I use bootstrap with ROM Manager and clockwork recovery.
Titanium backup handles app and file backup mainly for Angry Birds game progress.
makes hopping from one rom to another and back pretty easy

 

[sephtin]

I have a question on backing up our phone, When we open bootstrap for Droid X and hit bootstrap recovery and hit reboot recovery, and it goes to the screen that has the green lines on it, and hit backup system. That is the backup we need if something goes wrong during an install right?

The other backup app's are just used for backing up your program app's right?

Thanks for your help on this!!

Yes. When backing up either through choosing "Backup ROM from ROM Manger, or Backup and restore from within clockworkmod recovery... it's referred to as a nandroid backup, which is a FULL backup of exactly what you have right at that moment. Good to go back to if you ever have serious problems.

Backup apps from within the ROM are handy for.. well, they have their uses..

 

[bozchevelle]

I have a question on backing up our phone, When we open bootstrap for Droid X and hit bootstrap recovery and hit reboot recovery, and it goes to the screen that has the green lines on it, and hit backup system. That is the backup we need if something goes wrong during an install right?

The other backup app's are just used for backing up your program app's right?

Thanks for your help on this!!

Yes. When backing up either through choosing "Backup ROM from ROM Manger, or Backup and restore from within clockworkmod recovery... it's referred to as a nandroid backup, which is a FULL backup of exactly what you have right at that moment. Good to go back to if you ever have serious problems.

Backup apps from within the ROM are handy for.. well, they have their uses..

I have a question on your comments,

1) What app's should we back'up before we install a new Rom coming from a stock phone?

2) And what ones do you not to want to even mess with?

The reason I ask is I have read that you should install each app one at a time fresh after each Rom install, because when you use your back'up program to restore them. That it can cause some issues because they don't play well with others!

Please give your input on this for me. Again thank you for everything you are doing for all us with your hard work here!!!! And the patchs you supply for the users here!!

 

[Alex.DF]

I have a question that may seem strange...but what is the 3G hotspot feature? I don't see it in my phone and I have been using an app from the market called WiFi tether I think. I have had two laptops connected through it at the same time. Am I missing something? Please forgive my ignorance.

Not exactly... 3G Hotspot supports infrastructure connections, which makes it compatible with more devices (gaming systems, for example). Wireless Tether for Root Users doesn't have that, as far as I know. I know there was a patch to give it this ability, but I don't know how well it works, or if it works at all.

 

[sephtin]

I have a question on your comments,

1) What app's should we back'up before we install a new Rom coming from a stock phone?

2) And what ones do you not to want to even mess with?

The reason I ask is I have read that you should install each app one at a time fresh after each Rom install, because when you use your back'up program to restore them. That it can cause some issues because they don't play well with others!

Please give your input on this for me. Again thank you for everything you are doing for all us with your hard work here!!!! And the patchs you supply for the users here!!

What great questions!!!
"1) What app's should we back'up before we install a new Rom coming from a stock phone?"
--There are 2 schools of thought to this.
The first, is that you should backup and restore everything... some people even go to great lengths to avoid the google data sync by not putting in their google account, so they can restore their apps and data using a backup application.
The other belief is that backups can cause issues, so if they can be avoided, especially by installing things correctly, then it might be worth the extra 15 minutes of configuring everything.

I lean towards the second, for a simple reason.
Something backed up from a ROM, and restored to the same version ROM, are very unlikely to cause issues. However, Nandroid backups are better for this situation anyway. But it is rare that you actually need to restore data to the same ROM, usually it's when switching back and forth that you want to backup/restore...
If you are switching from one install/ROM to something different, backups are way more likely to cause something to be restored that could be incompatible.

"2) And what ones do you not to want to even mess with?"
--I've tried MyBackup and Titanium.. and didn't like the 30 day limitation on MyBackup, and hated the hundred or so issues posted that have in some way been linked back to titanium... so *shrug*.

Of those that rely heavily on backup clients, most of the time most of them don't have issues.

IF you're going to use a backup client...the best recommendation I have is stay away from restoring anything that relates to system... wifi settings, bluetooth settings, ANYTHING settings/system related.
App and data restores are almost always safe... The most common issue, is you have to clear data/cache for an application if it FC's, or doesn't sync, or whatever (often negating the purpose of restoring it in the first place..).

My method:
Use backups like insurance.. take out a policy, and hope you never need to use it.

I'm probably a little over-paranoid.. but it has saved me from having issues in the past, so ... I'll keep it this way, unless I find a reason I really need to keep something backed up, like text messages, or (??).. guess I'll find out someday?

Edit: I think the most common reason I have seen so far for wanting to back stuff up.. was Angry Birds. I suppose if you have hours invested into something, it might be worth backing up the data for that app... no matter what it is. Then again, I also believe there is a write-up on how to make a backup by copying a directory over to the SDCard from Angry Birds.. so.. either way.. worth mentioning. : )

 

[mdowns989]

Just tried Titanium backup for the first time... wow... nice time saver... BUT... is there a way to backup the Widgets in there or run batch recovery so I don't have to approved every reinstalled app??

rubiX Focused 1.6 & Modded Black Juice.


rubiX Focused 1.6 & Modded Black Juice.

 

[bozchevelle]

I have a question on your comments,

1) What app's should we back'up before we install a new Rom coming from a stock phone?

2) And what ones do you not to want to even mess with?

The reason I ask is I have read that you should install each app one at a time fresh after each Rom install, because when you use your back'up program to restore them. That it can cause some issues because they don't play well with others!

Please give your input on this for me. Again thank you for everything you are doing for all us with your hard work here!!!! And the patchs you supply for the users here!!

What great questions!!!
"1) What app's should we back'up before we install a new Rom coming from a stock phone?"
--There are 2 schools of thought to this.
The first, is that you should backup and restore everything... some people even go to great lengths to avoid the google data sync by not putting in their google account, so they can restore their apps and data using a backup application.
The other belief is that backups can cause issues, so if they can be avoided, especially by installing things correctly, then it might be worth the extra 15 minutes of configuring everything.

I lean towards the second, for a simple reason.
Something backed up from a ROM, and restored to the same version ROM, are very unlikely to cause issues. However, Nandroid backups are better for this situation anyway. But it is rare that you actually need to restore data to the same ROM, usually it's when switching back and forth that you want to backup/restore...
If you are switching from one install/ROM to something different, backups are way more likely to cause something to be restored that could be incompatible.

"2) And what ones do you not to want to even mess with?"
--I've tried MyBackup and Titanium.. and didn't like the 30 day limitation on MyBackup, and hated the hundred or so issues posted that have in some way been linked back to titanium... so *shrug*.

Of those that rely heavily on backup clients, most of the time most of them don't have issues.

IF you're going to use a backup client...the best recommendation I have is stay away from restoring anything that relates to system... wifi settings, bluetooth settings, ANYTHING settings/system related.
App and data restores are almost always safe... The most common issue, is you have to clear data/cache for an application if it FC's, or doesn't sync, or whatever (often negating the purpose of restoring it in the first place..).

My method:
Use backups like insurance.. take out a policy, and hope you never need to use it.

I'm probably a little over-paranoid.. but it has saved me from having issues in the past, so ... I'll keep it this way, unless I find a reason I really need to keep something backed up, like text messages, or (??).. guess I'll find out someday?

Edit: I think the most common reason I have seen so far for wanting to back stuff up.. was Angry Birds. I suppose if you have hours invested into something, it might be worth backing up the data for that app... no matter what it is. Then again, I also believe there is a write-up on how to make a backup by copying a directory over to the SDCard from Angry Birds.. so.. either way.. worth mentioning. : )

Once again you have come thru for me!!!

So I am one that does not like to mix and match items that don't play well together, It like doing a system upgrade going from windows XP to Windows 7, you have all that junk behind that still there that you didn't like before, that why you wanted to do a complete freah install. Best way is to wipe everything and load one thing at a time on a fresh hard drive, then load one program at a time, because not all software will work with each op system because of driver issues!!

So bottom line is we really don't want to install items back on a new ROM from the one we just replaced using a back-up program, But the back-up is a really good thing if we do something wrong and need to reinstall the op system again that we had on there before the ROM we just installed.

So I think I will side with you because you have be doing this a long time, and you have a lot of great answers that get us back up and running with our phones!! dancedroiddancedroid

Again I am really glad you are here to help us newbie's like me, along with the people that have been installing ROM's all the time!! dancedroid

 

[sephtin]

Once again you have come thru for me!!!

So I am one that does not like to mix and match items that don't play well together, It like doing a system upgrade going from windows XP to Windows 7, you have all that junk behind that still there that you didn't like before, that why you wanted to upgrade. Best way is to wipe everything and load one thing at a time on a fersh lean hard drive, then load one program at a time, because not all software will work with each op system because of driver issues!!

So bottom line is we really don't want to install items back on a new ROM from the one we just replaced, But the back-up is a really good thing if we do something wrong and need to reinstall the op system again that we had on there before the ROM we just installed.

So I think I will side with you because you have be doing this a long time, and you have a lot of great answers that get us back up and running with our phones!! dancedroiddancedroid

Again I am really glad you are here to help us newbie's like me, along with the people that have been installing ROM's all the time!! dancedroid

It was either answer that way... or just say "The best way to learn, is by experience! Go for it!
But.. I figured if I at least mention that I'm over paranoid about most things.. then people can take it for what it's worth...

What I posted, is just my opinion.. I know people who love MyBackup, and others who couldn't live without Titanium. I TOTALLY don't mean to sound like I know it all, and that anyone who feels otherwise is wrong... BUT, From my limited experience... what I posted is how I do things...

Edit: Oh, and what I really meant to say.. is that Bottom Line: Nandroid backups are the most dependable way to go. I take nandroid backups before doing ANYTHING to my phone, like changing ROMs, testing stuff, breaking stuff, fixing stuff, troubleshooting, etc. It's pretty much step 1 for me. BUT, when upgrading to something new, I set it up from scratch, and then take a nandroid of it set up how I like it... *shrug*

 

[ScottyDsntKnow]

Question, I know that the point of focused is to get rid of all the blur but the ONE thing keeping me from going focused is the lack of the awesome blur camera and the HDMI support. Is there a way I can add this in as the sole blur feature or is someone working on making the AOSP stuff able to output HDMI?

Thanks

@ScottyDsntKnow: How's Fiona?

Crappy blur camera is available via Unofficial and Unsupported Patch here (compliments of the Fission team):
http://www.sephtin.com/rubiX/DX_Camera(BlurCameraFromFission).zip

Noting of course, that the only features that the Blur camera has that the AOSP camera doesn't, are 6MP Wide Screen, Panorama Assist, and ... I think when recording video, control over which mics are being used. Pretty sure those are the only things missing from AOSP camera...

HDMI isn't likely to work with Focused any time soon, due to the BLUR Framework requirements, which no longer exist in Focused. Perhaps it can be patched in, but not until someone figures out exactly which components are required to do so....

Update guys, I think I pinpointed the HDMI fix, but it will be a week or two before I fix it.

I tried the AOSP camera when i was on 1.6 for a few days (before I realized I had no HDMI out) and the quality was never as good plus super wide camera has really snagged some great pics for me. If I can run focused 1.6 with the HDMI fixed as hopefully drod (in all his amazingness) figured it out and install the blur camera or one comparable from the market then I will probably jump back to Focused from Apex.

edit: The "crappy blur camera" got some amazing pics and videos this weekend on the sidelines at the Giants game although those scrubs epic failed as usual. Never had a phone that took such clear, crisp pictures as well as awesome video. Again, the AOSP camera was a little grainy for some reason. If there is a camera on the market that is as good or better I would consider it over the blur camera tho...

 

[bozchevelle]

Once again you have come thru for me!!!

So I am one that does not like to mix and match items that don't play well together, It like doing a system upgrade going from windows XP to Windows 7, you have all that junk behind that still there that you didn't like before, that why you wanted to upgrade. Best way is to wipe everything and load one thing at a time on a fersh lean hard drive, then load one program at a time, because not all software will work with each op system because of driver issues!!

So bottom line is we really don't want to install items back on a new ROM from the one we just replaced, But the back-up is a really good thing if we do something wrong and need to reinstall the op system again that we had on there before the ROM we just installed.

So I think I will side with you because you have be doing this a long time, and you have a lot of great answers that get us back up and running with our phones!! dancedroiddancedroid

Again I am really glad you are here to help us newbie's like me, along with the people that have been installing ROM's all the time!! dancedroid

It was either answer that way... or just say "The best way to learn, is by experience! Go for it!
But.. I figured if I at least mention that I'm over paranoid about most things.. then people can take it for what it's worth...

What I posted, is just my opinion.. I know people who love MyBackup, and others who couldn't live without Titanium. I TOTALLY don't mean to sound like I know it all, and that anyone who feels otherwise is wrong... BUT, From my limited experience... what I posted is how I do things...

Edit: Oh, and what I really meant to say.. is that Bottom Line: Nandroid backups are the most dependable way to go. I take nandroid backups before doing ANYTHING to my phone, like changing ROMs, testing stuff, breaking stuff, fixing stuff, troubleshooting, etc. It's pretty much step 1 for me. BUT, when upgrading to something new, I set it up from scratch, and then take a nandroid of it set up how I like it... *shrug*

So I should use appBrain for my apps right, and just let it reload my apps back on my phone, or is that not the right app to use for this? Please understand that I am really new to all of this, just trying to better understand all of this.

Again thanks for your help!!

 

[Inkarnit]

Sephtin,

I like your insurance policy reference. It's almost like you've been exposed to the industry before...

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