Seidio 2600mAh extended battery

[windstrings]

No advantage I can think of other than you can set brightness settings dimmer for auto I believe..... but if you overclock it may be worse unless you put your resting OC speed at 250.

 

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about half way thru work and voltage is still 3991ma, so that's very good.


as for battery left, I just have the voltage set to show on the big display, is there anyone to have the %amount based on voltage? that way 4200 is full, and whatever your shut down voltages as empty? say 3800ish or whatever it is

If you go back and read some of my posts, I"ve made some guestimations......

Basically, you don't have to worry about your battery dying until under 3500mv... it holds strong till about 3650mv or so, below, 3500 the drop is faster.... one to 2 hours left if your actually using it.. once it gets under 3400mv.. maybe 30 min and it dies around 3350mv.

cool, that's good numbers to know.




as for the root thing, that's the first time I've seen that you can lower the back light even lower. if pick my phone up to check it in the middle of the night while half asleep, it blinds the crap out of me. maybe I'll look into rooting just for that alone lol.

loving the battery so far.

 

[windstrings]

I'll look into rooting just for that alone lol.

loving the battery so far.

I'm planning to ... there is "again" rumour the OTA 2.1 update will come out at the end of March... I'm hoping it will fix the issue with the battery voltage going up after a reboot "at lease with the Seidio extended" I can't get confirmation that it does it with stock or not.... I haven't wanted to put my stock back in to test.

I do plan on overclocking, with poss a 250 lower limit as 99% of the time the phone is in idle anyway.. who knows battery time may actually go up.

 

[jsanta11]

Just got mines on Monday.. Aside from getting the DROID it the second best investment I've done.. Running like a bull.. Loving it..

 

[lores35]

I let the battery run down until the phone shut off. When I put it in the cradle to charge, it cycles through boot up, stays on for a minute or so and then reboots again. It stayed in that cycle for about 5 or 6 reboots and then I took it off the charger and put the stock battery back in (phone was fine). I put the extended battery in a wall charger and it charged up fine. Anyone seen that behavior before? Is the battery defective? This is the second one that has done that. Tried both the cradle and plugging in the charge cable directly.

 

[Bxrider117]

I let the battery run down until the phone shut off. When I put it in the cradle to charge, it cycles through boot up, stays on for a minute or so and then reboots again. It stayed in that cycle for about 5 or 6 reboots and then I took it off the charger and put the stock battery back in (phone was fine). I put the extended battery in a wall charger and it charged up fine. Anyone seen that behavior before? Is the battery defective? This is the second one that has done that. Tried both the cradle and plugging in the charge cable directly.

I do not have the seidio extedned battery, I am waiting for it in the mail. Hopefully it comes by tomorrow. However, I did get a boot leg battery from ebay that was 1600mah and when I got the battery, I put it in the phone to drain it and whne it was drained and I out it in the Seidio Desktop charger, it does the same thing as your seidio. However, I can not get it to hold a charge at all. The phone just starts and boots. That is why I purchased the Seidio.

 

[alphanode]

as for the root thing, that's the first time I've seen that you can lower the back light even lower. if pick my phone up to check it in the middle of the night while half asleep, it blinds the crap out of me. maybe I'll look into rooting just for that alone lol.

The one concern I had about that is, could setting the back light below the minimum allowed under normal circumstances damage the display or any of the display components? I know I have an LCD monitor that if you set the brightness to low, it starts to buzz. I'm guessing this is because the lower the brightness the more resistance? Anywho, I'm not sure if the screen brightness is controlled by increasing the resistance (though that would also waste power) and thus decreasing it below recommended specs could damage the resistor, or if there is some other method of how the brightness is controlled. Does this make sense to anybody?

I do plan on overclocking, with poss a 250 lower limit as 99% of the time the phone is in idle anyway.. who knows battery time may actually go up.

Let us know what the resultes are, I'd be quite curious if/how much this affects things.

there is "again" rumour the OTA 2.1 update will come out at the end of March... I'm hoping it will fix the issue with the battery voltage going up after a reboot "at lease with the Seidio extended"

*shakes magic 8 ball* better not tell you now
*shakes magic 8 ball* ask again later
*shakes magic 8 ball* don't count on it

dang! oh well

 

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well starting the 2nd day and still at 3575mv, so its way passed the stock batt that would have been dead yesterday on me.


we will see how long it makes it today. so far for the first charge, I'm very happy as I only really need it to last one day under hard use.

 

[windstrings]

well starting the 2nd day and still at 3575mv, so its way passed the stock batt that would have been dead yesterday on me.


we will see how long it makes it today. so far for the first charge, I'm very happy as I only really need it to last one day under hard use.

If you don't have a load on it... just using for standby and any text of phone calls that come in, I guess you'll have about two - 4 hours... if you use constantly... maybe 30min to 1 hour.

 

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well starting the 2nd day and still at 3575mv, so its way passed the stock batt that would have been dead yesterday on me.


we will see how long it makes it today. so far for the first charge, I'm very happy as I only really need it to last one day under hard use.

If you don't have a load on it... just using for standby and any text of phone calls that come in, I guess you'll have about two - 4 hours... if you use constantly... maybe 30min to 1 hour.

yep, you were right, about 30mins of use later, while downloading the map update it turned off. so one good day it is, which is cool.


oh and as for the guys that are getting reboots while charging, are you trying to use the phone in the first few mins after it shuts down and you hook the charger up? cause I had mine do it twice, so I just let it sit there for about an hour with the screen off and once the voltage comes up nicely it doesn't reboot. I think the stock charger can't put out enough to charge the batt and power the phone at the same time when the batt is fully dead. most batterys accept a lot of power when dead and tapper off as they filly up. this big one is just to much for the stock charger tp do both

 

[windstrings]

oh and as for the guys that are getting reboots while charging, are you trying to use the phone in the first few mins after it shuts down and you hook the charger up? cause I had mine do it twice, so I just let it sit there for about an hour with the screen off and once the voltage comes up nicely it doesn't reboot. I think the stock charger can't put out enough to charge the batt and power the phone at the same time when the batt is fully dead. most batterys accept a lot of power when dead and tapper off as they filly up. this big one is just to much for the stock charger tp do both

Correct.... thats the only time I"ve ever seen that too.
I think this phone technically runs off the battery and the charger simply fortifies it.
So if the juice is too low to sustain rebooting/running programs, the voltage plummets and forces a shutdown again even though the charger is trying to do its job.
The amps from the charger alone is not enough.

I found it only takes about 5 - 10 min or so and the phone will work perfect for short term heavy use such as reboots, loading an app or two etc.

 

[windstrings]

BTW.... for those of you still playing with the Battery left app be patient... it is a beta and special tweaks have been made in an attempt to specialize monitoring for the Seidio extended battery.
But thats causing other issues, such as the app wiping out custom settings and possibly info. That particular issue is fixed but not released yet, but the self calibrating issue is still under investigation.

The Dev is working on it and some more tweaks are in order as to how it measures "accuracy" verses not.
I"m wondering if the database is getting corrupted when the battery unexpectedly dies or even an intentional reboot. Seems its specific to the Droid and milestones and is being looked into.

I'm just glad somebody is working on this... its appears Seidio is not worried about it even though not being able to accurately monitor their battery percentage is driving eveyone nuts and turning some away.

I thought I would add any info I have to help so he doesn't get overwhelmed with emails etc.....
Anything anyone else finds or figures out would be nice to post so others aren't in the dark.

 

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wonder if there's a way to have battery left to look at load vs voltage and use that to figure out battery amount left. I'm thinking since the phone can graph out what uses the battery and how much, maybe load can be worked out from there?

anyways, I won't be able to charge it 8 hours this time, I'll see how long a hour or 2 lasts today and charge it over night tonight. all kinds of out of order, but oh well

 

[windstrings]

wonder if there's a way to have battery left to look at load vs voltage and use that to figure out battery amount left. I'm thinking since the phone can graph out what uses the battery and how much, maybe load can be worked out from there?

anyways, I won't be able to charge it 8 hours this time, I'll see how long a hour or 2 lasts today and charge it over night tonight. all kinds of out of order, but oh well

Just charge it what you can and then finish the charge proper when you get more time....
Thats better than draining it again in the present partial charge.
Once the app gets a few good runs, that won't be so critical as it keeps timestamps of battery increments.

Hopefully the issue of losing all the data info will be resolved soon, otherwise It keeps starting back at the drawing board.

I agree.... I think the mv readings are the most stable issue surrounding what the battery is expected to do.

Measure time against the mv graph would prove to be pretty accurate after a few runs.

I can also use the mv reading as a guage already in my head now that I've learned how far the battery will go...... that all the app really needs to know too.
1. How long till dead after XXXX mv?
2. How much estimated percentage is left after XXXX mv?
IMHO.... I think mv should be the foundation everything else works off of.

Measuring anything off of "system voltage" is totally unreliable because when you reboot, that changes and as we all know, it hits 5% far before the battery is dead... so why not totally ignore that parameter since its the "most" untrustworthy?
If that parameter alone was tossed it would greatly increase accuracy IMO and it then wouldn't matter if you have a standard, extended , Seidio or what battery in place.

 

[timh2870]

Only reason i don't get the extended battery is because it won't fit in the car dock or multimedia dock. If i could deal with the bulge of a 2600 milliamp/hour i'd say why not make something even larger, like 3600- 4000?