Teacher had a panic attack with MY DROID in her hand

[silvere2]

Its only a cop out if its not true. When I was younger, I could relate to these arguments. Now that I am older, I relate to the counter arguments.

Hardly a cop-out.

Kind of amusing that you equate it with being a fallacy, and a male fallacy at that.

By the way, its not a fallacy, and when you are older, you will understand why

Do you even know what a fallacy is, and why it's a fallacy? You're making an error in reasoning by assuming the reason someone feels a certain way is due to their age and their lack of maturity. Pretty much any time you make an assumption while reasoning, you are committing a logical fallacy. Every conclusion you make, including the conclusion above: "The reason you feel a certain way is because of your age" needs to be backed up by sound reasoning. Conclusions can't be pulled out of thin air, and when you use it as a subsidiary conclusion, to provide a premise for your main conclusion, you're automatically invalidating your main conclusion as well.

Hope this helps.

Yep, I am fully aware what a fallacy is. I am also aware that its your opinion, and I do not support it. So to each their own

The nice things about opinions, is that you don't have to back them up with sound reasoning. I am not passing it off as fact. Its certainly plausible that someone will not become more mature with age, for instance.

When you get older, you will understand.

Wait a second...that something is a fallacy is my opinion? Greatest thing you've said all thread, lol. I wish it was just my opinion because I would be a great man, a famous old philosopher indeed. Unfortunately I did not invent logic, and whether or not something is a fallacy dates back to Aristotelian times.

 

[adrynalyne]

No a distraction may not inhibit YOU from anything, but do you honestly think you can speak for others? I know you aren't that naive. Sometimes the distraction someone causes doesn't affect the students, but does affect the instructor.

I am a chemical engineering major. Here is one of my professor's take on distractions. If you do it, he won't kick you out of class. He will leave. Then he will test the sh*t out of you on that subject.

As for the person who causes this travesty? Thats pretty obvious. We take him outside and stomp his face into a mud puddle.

 

[adrynalyne]

Do you even know what a fallacy is, and why it's a fallacy? You're making an error in reasoning by assuming the reason someone feels a certain way is due to their age and their lack of maturity. Pretty much any time you make an assumption while reasoning, you are committing a logical fallacy. Every conclusion you make, including the conclusion above: "The reason you feel a certain way is because of your age" needs to be backed up by sound reasoning. Conclusions can't be pulled out of thin air, and when you use it as a subsidiary conclusion, to provide a premise for your main conclusion, you're automatically invalidating your main conclusion as well.

Hope this helps.

Yep, I am fully aware what a fallacy is. I am also aware that its your opinion, and I do not support it. So to each their own

The nice things about opinions, is that you don't have to back them up with sound reasoning. I am not passing it off as fact. Its certainly plausible that someone will not become more mature with age, for instance.

When you get older, you will understand.

Wait a second...that something is a fallacy is my opinion? Greatest thing you've said all thread, lol. I wish it was just my opinion because I would be a great man, a famous old philosopher indeed. Unfortunately I did not invent logic, and whether or not something is a fallacy dates back to Aristotelian times.

Nope. Maybe you should have gone to college a little longer.

I said I know what a fallacy is, and that it is your opinion. As in, you believing that it is a fallacy is your opinion. My opinion is that the saying in question is NOT a fallacy.

 

[silvere2]

Yep, I am fully aware what a fallacy is. I am also aware that its your opinion, and I do not support it. So to each their own

The nice things about opinions, is that you don't have to back them up with sound reasoning. I am not passing it off as fact. Its certainly plausible that someone will not become more mature with age, for instance.

When you get older, you will understand.

Wait a second...that something is a fallacy is my opinion? Greatest thing you've said all thread, lol. I wish it was just my opinion because I would be a great man, a famous old philosopher indeed. Unfortunately I did not invent logic, and whether or not something is a fallacy dates back to Aristotelian times.

Nope. Maybe you should have gone to college a little longer.

I said I know what a fallacy is, and that it is your opinion. As in, you believing that it is a fallacy is your opinion.

Once again quite a stupid assumption, I spent 4 years at university, and another 3 years in grad school. As I explained above, that it is a fallacy is not my opinion, according to the definition of a fallacy it is just that, and not only that it's a well documented fallacy.

Here's a list of some commonly used fallacious arguments, I suggest you learn them well before you try to make another one:

A List Of Fallacious Arguments

 

[adrynalyne]

All that time in school, and you still don't know the value of using a respectable source? The link you initially provided was someone's opinion, and thats all there is to it. I am sorry, but you cannot pass off an opinion as fact, no matter how hard you try.

Your opinion is that the saying in question is a fallacy. Why are trying to deny that? LOL.

 

[clunker]

Not a fallacy unless there's an implication that the conclusion follows by necessity

From the context of the original statement its pretty obvious that "you will understand when you are older" was a prediction, not a statement of premise and conclusion. As such, it may be false, but only time can prove it so.

 

[adrynalyne]

Thanks clunker. Thats exactly what I meant.

 

[swickdick]

No a distraction may not inhibit YOU from anything, but do you honestly think you can speak for others? I know you aren't that naive. Sometimes the distraction someone causes doesn't affect the students, but does affect the instructor.

I am a chemical engineering major. Here is one of my professor's take on distractions. If you do it, he won't kick you out of class. He will leave. Then he will test the sh*t out of you on that subject.

As for the person who causes this travesty? Thats pretty obvious. We take him outside and stomp his face into a mud puddle.

Haha ohh damn you're pretty hard man. Jeese wouldn't want to be in your class ahahahha

 

[grizcoach]

Cells in the class

I am a teacher and I make sure my students are doing work during their time in my class and not just sitting there talking.

If a cell phone goes off in class, I take it and answer it for them. Usually it's a friend (whom I probably have in another class or taught previously). It's great to hear them when you answer "Hi this is Mr. Schmidt why are you calling during my class" For some reason, they hang up quickly.

If they're using the phone in class, that's an "A" class violation. The phone is confiscated and their parents have to come to school and pick it up (I have been know to take pictures of myself and other teachers and make that their wallpaper).

One time a student called during class and his name came up on the phone. When he came into my class for 5th period, I asked him why he was calling so&so during 2nd period. The look of shock on his face was priceless (I told him I control the airwaves in my classroom and that's how I knew) :icon_ devil:

 

[silvere2]

All that time in school, and you still don't know the value of using a respectable source? The link you initially provided was someone's opinion, and thats all there is to it. I am sorry, but you cannot pass off an opinion as fact, no matter how hard you try.

Your opinion is that the saying in question is a fallacy. Why are trying to deny that? LOL.[/]

Because it's not MY opinion, I don't understand what you don't understand about that. It's a logical fallacy, just like the sky is blue and the grass is green. Not only that, I outlined exactly WHY it's a fallacy a few posts back, but in short it presupposes the truth of it's conclusion. I didn't invent logical fallacies, or the characteristics which happen to determine one.

 

[silvere2]

No a distraction may not inhibit YOU from anything, but do you honestly think you can speak for others? I know you aren't that naive. Sometimes the distraction someone causes doesn't affect the students, but does affect the instructor.

I am a chemical engineering major. Here is one of my professor's take on distractions. If you do it, he won't kick you out of class. He will leave. Then he will test the sh*t out of you on that subject.

As for the person who causes this travesty? Thats pretty obvious. We take him outside and stomp his face into a mud puddle.

Haha ohh damn you're pretty hard man. Jeese wouldn't want to be in your class ahahahha

Rofl, are you still in undergrad adrynalyne? Oh, you'll understand when you're more educated. ;-)

 

[swickdick]

I am a teacher and I make sure my students are doing work during their time in my class and not just sitting there talking.

If a cell phone goes off in class, I take it and answer it for them. Usually it's a friend (whom I probably have in another class or taught previously). It's great to hear them when you answer "Hi this is Mr. Schmidt why are you calling during my class" For some reason, they hang up quickly.

If they're using the phone in class, that's an "A" class violation. The phone is confiscated and their parents have to come to school and pick it up (I have been know to take pictures of myself and other teachers and make that their wallpaper).

One time a student called during class and his name came up on the phone. When he came into my class for 5th period, I asked him why he was calling so&so during 2nd period. The look of shock on his face was priceless (I told him I control the airwaves in my classroom and that's how I knew) :icon_ devil:

That's very strange and domineering behavior.

To take it to that extent is no where near necessary and can be considered excessive by the objective view

 

[adrynalyne]

Oh no. Someone on a forum took a potshot at me.

I'm sure my education in chemical engineering is going to help me on forum arguments.

LOL...

 

[adrynalyne]

No a distraction may not inhibit YOU from anything, but do you honestly think you can speak for others? I know you aren't that naive. Sometimes the distraction someone causes doesn't affect the students, but does affect the instructor.

I am a chemical engineering major. Here is one of my professor's take on distractions. If you do it, he won't kick you out of class. He will leave. Then he will test the sh*t out of you on that subject.

As for the person who causes this travesty? Thats pretty obvious. We take him outside and stomp his face into a mud puddle.

Haha ohh damn you're pretty hard man. Jeese wouldn't want to be in your class ahahahha

Rofl, are you still in undergrad adrynalyne? Oh, you'll understand when you're more educated. ;-)

Maybe with age you will learn that an opinion of a prediction of whats to come is not a fallacy. Its obvious that all those years of college couldn't get it through your thick skull

 

[swickdick]

Who cares if you are a chemical engineer? Me being a finance major better qualifies me to socialize and argue then engineer so I don't see where your going with that