Tethering - Here's why I wouldn't do it...

[Droids]

I say tether all you want. It might be the only way we'll get a answer one way or another out of VZW. Someone has to be the guinea pig.

 

[smokiedabong]

Enjoy watching the guinea pigs eating all the free , delicious pie . There are also some canned deserts coming for you , but you'll have to pay for it , and you can take only one bite at a time .

 

[jbrock98]

.....don't download music illegally either on the internet, your internet provider knows and will rat you out to the feds and you'll go down!!! lol give me a break

 

[jroc]

^Ok, there have been sites actually taken down, ppl sued, fined, arrested over that. So I dont see the point....With tethering, we have that one $18000 bill from 2006....basically thats it.

I know a guy whose has been in the p2p game since 1999 right when the original Napster was created/destroyed, before torrents...he has NEVER gotten a letter from his ISP, never been fined, sued...nothing. Not a peep. But, he knows the risks involved.

 

[jbrock98]

^^^ yes true but the point I was trying to make was that there might be some truth to this like there's truth in cracking down on illegally downloading of music but nothing on the scale of which is portrayed...I'm newly rooted and have not found a reason to wifi tether yet but have done it just to do it do I'm not too worried

 

[jroc]

^^^ yes true but the point I was trying to make was that there might be some truth to this like there's truth in cracking down on illegally downloading of music but nothing on the scale of which is portrayed...I'm newly rooted and have not found a reason to wifi tether yet but have done it just to do it do I'm not too worried

I agree its in the same ballpark.......I just hate trying to compare this to illegal p2p..... I dont think you can, there are several violations going on at the same time....why did I even respond.....LOL

But I also mentioned that a few pages ago, that back in the day ppl werent getting fined or sued for illegal p2p. Fast forward to today: would you try it with no firewall, PG2, router, TOR...out of all those, the guy I know only used a firewall and a router, and the router is only for connecting game systems to the PC. So he only uses a firewall. Still nothing, not a peep.

 

[smokiedabong]

I know a guy whose has been in the p2p game since 1999 right when the original Napster was created/destroyed, before torrents...he has NEVER gotten a letter from his ISP, never been fined, sued...nothing. Not a peep. But, he knows the risks involved.

Depends on where you live , lol at this response from piratebay to DreamWorks
http://static.thepiratebay.org/dreamworks_response.txt and lmao at the curent homepage , they tried to take it down again today .

 

[mcatdtDroid]

So that settles it for you? 7 years of bad credit and all the worry and effort that goes into settling is no big deal?

not my credit in that case, but in the point that guy is in, the extra money he will pay due to bad credit is still less than 18K..... economic win for him

 

[aminaked]

So that settles it for you? 7 years of bad credit and all the worry and effort that goes into settling is no big deal?

not my credit in that case, but in the point that guy is in, the extra money he will pay due to bad credit is still less than 18K..... economic win for him

You're grasping at straws to try to win an argument.

Here's what I'm saying: if you tether, you might want to keep your bandwidth low. Encrypted proxy hides tethering altogether so try to set it up.

 

[bgreen82]

so...youre saying i can browse the internet on my droid?? help please.

 

[nateccnn]

Honey attracts more flies - related to tethering

Just spent a half hour on the phone with a Vz Rep. I have to say that she was very upfront and hoinest with me, but they are probably just as confuised as we are. First she sent me an email in response to my query about HOW CAN I TETHER?
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Dear Nate,

I apologize for the confusion with using the Motorola DROID as a modem for Mobile Broadband service. My name is Michele, and I am happy to assist you. I appreciate your interest in using your Motorola DROID as a modem for Mobile Broadband service, however Verizon Wireless currently does not have Mobile Broadband Connect service for this handset. This means there is not a way to subscribe to Mobile Broadband service. Verizon Wireless also does not support any applications that can provide this type of service for the Motorola DROID. The use of 3rd party tethering applications that circumvent Mobile Broadband Connect is a breach of terms and conditions.

The terms and conditions for Data Plans and Features: Prohibited Uses states:

Customers who do not have dedicated Mobile Broadband devices cannot tether other devices to laptops or personal computers for use as wireless modems unless they subscribe to Mobile Broadband Connect.

I understand with Verizon Wireless currently not offering any Mobile Broadband Connect service for the Motorola DROID and stating you are not allowed to connect via a 3rd party application, does not leave you with any options for utilizing your Motorola DROID as a modem. I am sorry this is currently the case for the Motorola DROID. There is not a way to know if this is a service we will be able to provide for this handset in the future, as this may raise expectations that may not be met.

I have submitted a request to send a copy of your contract to your billing address.

Nate, again I am sorry I was not able to offer you a more favorable response. It was a pleasure assisting you today by providing information clarifying there is currently no Mobile Broadband Connect service for the Motorola DROID. I hope that I have fully taken care of your inquiry today. Thank you for choosing Verizon Wireless, we appreciate your business. Should you have additional questions or feel your concerns are not resolved, please reply to this e-mail.

Sincerely,

Mich
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On the phone she told me she sees people all the time tethered with a Droid. She knows it is wrong. It is a violation of the TOS. But no one is enforcing it right now. Will they in the future? Maybe. Probably. But they are trying to find a way to be competative first. Will we like it when they find it? Maybe...maybe not. So I said to her...this android thing is new, but it is all about freedom to do what you want with your device. It would be in Vz's bvest interest to find a way to financially capitalize on that philosophy rather than squeeze our necks. But I also realize that bandwidth is a premium to Vz and they have to find a model that keeps them from being ripped off. Could that model be charge every one a flat rate and let the non-abusers cover the costs of the abusers or just charge by the kilobyte or something in between those extremes...whatever...Vz has to make more money than they spend or the business fails. Android is so new no one really knows what to do with it (users know...LOL). But the guys in the corporate conference room are trying to figure it out and I hope my comments get passed on to someone who's making those decisions. One of the big four is going to figure out a model that works for the Adroid community and that provider is going to get 30% of the market (my prediction...probably way off) plus whatever they get from non-droiders. If allowed, this thing is going to be bigger than iPhone.

Still waiting to see my contract, but if she copied the TOS correctly, it only says I can't use my Droid as a modem. I don't use it as a modem. NerkNerkNerk.

Maybe we, the android community, need to focus on helping Vz figure out a profitable solution and forward our suggestions to them now while they are in the planning stages. Instead of trying to argue about "I should be able to use my unlimited data plan the way I want"...let's focus on what does it cost Vz to allow this thing so we can help them find a way to financially capitalize on it.

I'm thinking about moving to an Incredible just because they offer the Mobile Broad Band connect...but I do not want to use it as a modem so that may not even be a solution for me. But I am not opposed to paying a fee for what I need. I explained this to her and she basically told me she would be violationg law if she sold me a product my phone is not capable of using. LOL

Nate

 

[hookbill]

Threads merged.

 

[GohanBurner]

****, its win win for me then. If I ever get caught and they terminate me...I'll sell the droid pay the eft with it and still have enough for an att contact with the iphone. Can't really stand the sluggishness of the droid. I'll just jailbreak an iphone and use there much faster 3g connection.

Imho, verizons restrictive nature and googles open source outlook DON'T MIX.

 

[aminaked]

****, its win win for me then. If I ever get caught and they terminate me...I'll sell the droid pay the eft with it and still have enough for an att contact with the iphone. Can't really stand the sluggishness of the droid. I'll just jailbreak an iphone and use there much faster 3g connection.

Imho, verizons restrictive nature and googles open source outlook DON'T MIX.

Why because they forgave the $18000 after 7 years? There's no guarrantee they'd forgive it again but even if they did it could mean years of bad credit, worry, and work to try to resolve it.

 

[GohanBurner]

****, its win win for me then. If I ever get caught and they terminate me...I'll sell the droid pay the eft with it and still have enough for an att contact with the iphone. Can't really stand the sluggishness of the droid. I'll just jailbreak an iphone and use there much faster 3g connection.

Imho, verizons restrictive nature and googles open source outlook DON'T MIX.

Why because they forgave the $18000 after 7 years? There's no guarrantee they'd forgive it again but even if they did it could mean years of bad credit, worry, and work to try to resolve it.

I don't know what you're talking about with the 18000. O have been using my droid to play call of duty for a month now. Over 7gb used, no problem.