VZW disabling tethering apps from market

[soulshot96]

I don't tether but I happened to notice that some of you guys are tatting on people who tether and break their contracts when your rooted yourselves. I know this is not illegal but it does go against the contract you signed does it not? I'm not saying you shouldn't root, or tether for that matter do whatever I don't care. Bur seroiusly I think this thread is useless because it is just going to cause people to get into arguments with each other, about stuff people aren't going to listen to anyway. I admit I don't tether but I am rooted and I downloaded it just in case I ever need it hell I don't even know if the one I have works or not. But who cares?

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[preusstang]

I think everyone gets wrapped up in this debate for 2 reasons.

1. If you come on here and voice your opinion and it is not for Verizon multiple people start attacking you. Naturally you will defend yourself.

2. Seems that these kind of topics cannot be opinionated. The seem to be its illegal you are wrong.

Maybe all the analogies would stop if the topic was not this way.

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I think its more like your guilty conscience puts you on the offensive when someone calls you out. Like I said the tetherers are trying way too hard to convince (themselves?) others that they're in the right. Its transparent.

Guilty conscience? Please. If people who tether had a guilty conscience over it, they would simply not do it. I believe the people on here attacking the users who tether are simply trying to fulfill their immature need for self-righteousness, declaring right from wrong, good from bad, painting every picture with themselves up on a pedestal.

Sounds like a right wing Christian - gays are wrong too huh? And fornication makes you evil. Not that I'm trying to change topics - its just that these users are flaming anyone who doesn't agree. Its reminiscent of other moral issues, since that seems to be what the topic is boiling down to.

Ha ha I know your right. I finally got tired of trying to fight off 3 or 4 people at a time.

I do check in and see if there is actually anything new about the topic.

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I feel you. I guess that's just what you have to deal with for being in the "deviant" part of society. lol


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[freezyfreaky]

Whether you agree with Verizon charging for tethering or not, unauthorized tethering does have consequences. These consequences affect all Verizon's customers including those who are paying for tethering. That is not very fair either.

 

[Snow02]

I honestly don't care who tethers.

You've got over 150 posts in this thread alone that say otherwise. Obviously, you care. Or you're a shill for verizon. Which is it?

 

[preusstang]

Whether you agree with Verizon charging for tethering or not, unauthorized tethering does have consequences. These consequences affect all Verizon's customers including those who are paying for tethering. That is not very fair either.

It does have consequences - but not that I can see for users who pay.. tethering doesn't place any more load on the VZW network than regular phone traffic. We're not talking about stealing bandwidth here, just tethering.

You've got over 150 posts in this thread alone that say otherwise. Obviously, you care. Or you're a shill for verizon. Which is it?

Hahaha

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[cynnar]

I think everyone gets wrapped up in this debate for 2 reasons.

1. If you come on here and voice your opinion and it is not for Verizon multiple people start attacking you. Naturally you will defend yourself.

2. Seems that these kind of topics cannot be opinionated. The seem to be its illegal you are wrong.

Maybe all the analogies would stop if the topic was not this way.

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I think its more like your guilty conscience puts you on the offensive when someone calls you out. Like I said the tetherers are trying way too hard to convince (themselves?) others that they're in the right. Its transparent.

Like I said it happens instantly.
That post didn't even have anything to do with how o feel about tethering and yet you managed to put those words right on my mouth.

I wonder why people get so mad.

I don't recall the thread being called if you have a opinion different from Verizon come on here and get flamed.

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[freezyfreaky]

Whether you agree with Verizon charging for tethering or not, unauthorized tethering does have consequences. These consequences affect all Verizon's customers including those who are paying for tethering. That is not very fair either.

It does have consequences - but not that I can see for users who pay.. tethering doesn't place any more load on the VZW network than regular phone traffic. We're not talking about stealing bandwidth here, just tethering.

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Are you sure about that? I can definitely see more people willing to steam a movie to watch on their tethered notebook than their phone. I tend to surf to less data intensive mobile sites instead of full-version sites because it is a pain in the ass sometimes to constantly resize the screen on the phone.

 

[cynnar]

I think everyone gets wrapped up in this debate for 2 reasons.

1. If you come on here and voice your opinion and it is not for Verizon multiple people start attacking you. Naturally you will defend yourself.

2. Seems that these kind of topics cannot be opinionated. The seem to be its illegal you are wrong.

Maybe all the analogies would stop if the topic was not this way.

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I think its more like your guilty conscience puts you on the offensive when someone calls you out. Like I said the tetherers are trying way too hard to convince (themselves?) others that they're in the right. Its transparent.

Guilty conscience? Please. If people who tether had a guilty conscience over it, they would simply not do it. I believe the people on here attacking the users who tether are simply trying to fulfill their immature need for self-righteousness, declaring right from wrong, good from bad, painting every picture with themselves up on a pedestal.

Sounds like a right wing Christian - gays are wrong too huh? And fornication makes you evil. Not that I'm trying to change topics - its just that these users are flaming anyone who doesn't agree. Its reminiscent of other moral issues, since that seems to be what the topic is boiling down to.

Ha ha I know your right. I finally got tired of trying to fight off 3 or 4 people at a time.

I do check in and see if there is actually anything new about the topic.

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I feel you. I guess that's just what you have to deal with for being in the "deviant" part of society. lol


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Maybe it is that they themselves tether or has tethered, and hopes to redeem themselves by flaming those who do.



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[freezyfreaky]

What I would find interesting is if everybody would look at the average data they use per month tethered and untethered and report if there are any differences. That should prove it no?

 

[preusstang]

Whether you agree with Verizon charging for tethering or not, unauthorized tethering does have consequences. These consequences affect all Verizon's customers including those who are paying for tethering. That is not very fair either.

It does have consequences - but not that I can see for users who pay.. tethering doesn't place any more load on the VZW network than regular phone traffic. We're not talking about stealing bandwidth here, just tethering.

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Are you sure about that? I can definitely see more people willing to steam a movie to watch on their tethered notebook than their phone. I tend to surf to less data intensive mobile sites instead of full-version sites because it is a pain in the ass sometimes to constantly resize the screen on the phone.

True, but that's why they throttle you. I know several people who stream videos off the web through their (phone's) HDMI port to the TV. No tethering, but their stealing bandwidth all the same - depending on how you look at it. How about Netflix?? You don't need a laptop to use a lot of data.

You get throttled + face mad fines when you go over your 5GB..

Maybe it is that they themselves tether or has tethered, and hopes to redeem themselves by flaming those who do.

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That's the best explanation I've read yet.


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[rebaf]

I asked easytether about updates for those who purchased pro from android market and here is what they said

At this time please follow the second part of the Android Market related hint.

Later we'll upload the version that will pick the Android Market license automatically.

I am going to send another email to see how they plan on telling users of a update.

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good idea....ill send them an email as well.
so far this changing the string thing seems pretty interesting....

 

[cynnar]

What I would find interesting is if everybody would look at the average data they use per month tethered and untethered and report if there are any differences. That should prove it no?

Excellent point.

The flaw I see in that is if you download your favorite rom nightly that alone puts you at 3gb or more.

And what about people like me I just downloaded a 450 MB file to my phone last night, and Ubuntu at 650 or 700 (don't remember) a week ago. Same billing cycle.

Plus the data is both upload and download.

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[cynnar]

What I would find interesting is if everybody would look at the average data they use per month tethered and untethered and report if there are any differences. That should prove it no?

Excellent point.

The flaw I see in that is if you download your favorite rom nightly that alone puts you at 3gb or more.

And what about people like me I just downloaded a 450 MB file to my phone last night, and Ubuntu at 650 or 700 (don't remember) a week ago. Same billing cycle.

Plus the data is both upload and download.

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Oh and the 3gb is monthly not nightly. I forgot to add that.

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[freezyfreaky]

What I would find interesting is if everybody would look at the average data they use per month tethered and untethered and report if there are any differences. That should prove it no?

Excellent point.

The flaw I see in that is if you download your favorite rom nightly that alone puts you at 3gb or more.

And what about people like me I just downloaded a 450 MB file to my phone last night, and Ubuntu at 650 or 700 (don't remember) a week ago. Same billing cycle.

Plus the data is both upload and download.

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There is no flaw. If that's something that you do on the phone as well tethered then that is valid data.

 

[cynnar]

I asked easytether about updates for those who purchased pro from android market and here is what they said

At this time please follow the second part of the Android Market related hint.

Later we'll upload the version that will pick the Android Market license automatically.

I am going to send another email to see how they plan on telling users of a update.

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good idea....ill send them an email as well.
so far this changing the string thing seems pretty interesting....

Nice. I have fired one off to them as well.

What about pdanet, anyone have info on hat they are doing in this area?

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