VZW disabling tethering apps from market

[NeoandGeo]

So I am in the wrong when I view a movie from Picasa through the HDMI port? I'm seeing it on a different screen. That's illegal right? I mean it's not considered smartphone data anymore, and it's "tethered" data, right?

Your justification fails, and is laughable right now.

 

[czerdrill]

Lol. I know. You probably are.



Personally I think all You evil people who tether and steal my bandwidth need to turn there self in to the proper authority.

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Yeah I know I am.

You would probably be appalled to know I am typing this while driving.
Breaking the law. Breaking the law!!!

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...kids. you're like the child who's too afraid to fight their own battles so you let others fight for them. you already stated you don't tether, but you're here going "yeah get 'em...yah!!" haha...your "teathering (yes teathering) prudes" thread was useless and so are your childish comebacks.

 

[czerdrill]

Very well put. Just seems that when someone expresses there opinion about the subject they get flamed by those whos opinion falls in favor of Verizon, and no matter what you try to do the attacks keep coming.

I to was guilty of this. I go smarter about it and try not to play that game as well.

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I don't get it. Why do you feel you are getting flamed? Because I don't agree with you? Or because I'm saying you're wrong?

So when people say lame things like "I hope you enjoy your raise from Verizon" or say foolish sarcastic statements like "Oh I'm so self righteous and I am going to report you if you tether" that's not an attack on me?

The difference is I'm not going to sit here and cry about getting attacked, because I understand that its a discussion and people are voicing their opinion. No one is attacking me, and if you guys were trying to you've done a horrible job because it hasn't made me resort to "waah i'm being attacked!!"

Like I said, you guys can deny it all you want, but the over the top defense of what you're doing and the silly analogies only furthers the point that you guys know what you're doing is wrong. The loudest people are usually the ones who are guilty of something or have something to hide. Reminds me of the woman who asked King Solomon to cut the baby in half so both mothers can have a piece.

Admit you're wrong and move on. Stop with the silly justifications that are dead on arrival because of the simple fact that you agreed to abide by the TOS. It doesn't matter if it's fair, or if it's ethical. I think charging $20 for 2GB is highway robbery and the most idiotic policy on the planet. However, I agreed to pay $20 if I want to tether. You guys are getting passionate about your personal beliefs, and fail to realize that your personal beliefs are about as irrelevant as it gets when it comes to a signed contract. It's doubly silly that you guys are paying your bills every month like little disciples, are the first ones in line for the new awesome phones that come out and then whine about the service that you weren't forced into and labeling verizon as a tyrannical company that is taking away your "comprehension of life" (LOL wut?)

I can argue that I think the government is wrong for outlawing murder, and commit murders left and right, that doesn't somehow make it right. You're wrong. Plain and simple. Whether you want to accept that or not is irrelevant. Stop hiding behind "I'm being attacked!!!" every time someone presents a logical counter to your silly justifications.

Really? Hahaha. You must have been working on that one all night. You're wrong. Just admit it. Everyone in here, including you, knows you're wrong. Drop it. That solves everything right?

Tethering is a hardware feature, not a service provided by a cell carrier. Its the same data, just on a different device. Its the same concept as a wired router on a broadband connection. Your ISP can't charge you 2x or 3x because you're using multiple PCs with NAT. and if every single ISP out there decided to try charging for that, you better believe people would circumvent that.

Would that make them evil too??

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Working on it all night? LOL. Yes, rather then sleep which is what people do at night, I was drafting my response to you. Seriously, stop with the lameness before you get to the point. I mean what is the point of that? It's like you think in your head "ooohh i got him with this comebackk!!!" LOL...

anyway, if a cable company did that they'd be in violation of the TOS you signed with them, so you wouldnt be wrong. It's again, black and white. No gray area. You're foolish analogies fall flat always because you ignore the most important part. Like the other teathering guy said "hear me out guys!!! If the TOS didn't exist, we wouldn't be wrong, right???!!" Well, yeah...you wouldn't be wrong if the tos didn't exist...but it does exist...

 

[BlueSami]

Yeah I know I am.

You would probably be appalled to know I am typing this while driving.
Breaking the law. Breaking the law!!!

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...kids. you're like the child who's too afraid to fight their own battles so you let others fight for them. you already stated you don't tether, but you're here going "yeah get 'em...yah!!" haha...your "teathering (yes teathering) prudes" thread was useless and so are your childish comebacks.

Dude there is no battle to fight with You.
You are set in your old ways. So there is no point.
I have my view You have yours.

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[BlueSami]

Drill I am sure your old enough to rember when the isp s started up. You were supposed to pay for each computer connected to the modem.
If you told them you had a router they wouldn't help You.

This is a similar situation.

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[czerdrill]

So I am in the wrong when I view a movie from Picasa through the HDMI port? I'm seeing it on a different screen. That's illegal right? I mean it's not considered smartphone data anymore, and it's "tethered" data, right?

Your justification fails, and is laughable right now.

Just saw this...

Methinks you don't know the difference between tethering and streaming.

Now if you said you tethered your laptop and then streamed a video to your laptop, maybe your odd comparison would hold some merit and yes it would be illegal to do that.

Your attempt to make a 1:1 comparison between tethering and streaming is what's laughable.

 

[NeoandGeo]

So it's bad to stream that movie to a laptop using the phone to process the data, but it's ok to still use the phone to process the data and send it directly to a TV? Even though both are using the same data, at the same speed, at the same capacity?

 

[czerdrill]

So it's bad to stream that movie to a laptop using the phone to process the data, but it's ok to still use the phone to process the data and send it directly to a TV? Even though both are using the same data, at the same speed, at the same capacity?

Are you sharing your internet connection with your TV? Just curious? Is your TV suddenly able to go online and browse websites, because you're streaming a picasa movie to it?

 

[NeoandGeo]

No, but I am using data that is being processed through the smartphone in both applications. I'm not going to pay twice for the same data. I'm not ignorant to how everything works, and won't be fooled by Verizon to think I need to pay extra for this feature my phone was built with.

 

[czerdrill]

No, but I am using data that is being processed through the smartphone in both applications.

Ok...and in one application you're sharing your internet connection with your laptop which is against the TOS. What are you arguing again?

 

[Wadman]

I've made my way through this thread and read a ton of posts. In my honest opinion, I don't see why people get so up in arms about this. Seriously!! Those of you who feel like someone is stealing because they are tethering are crazy. It isn't stealing. I don't care if someone is using data for free when Verizon charges for it. I don't feel entitled to anything other than using my phone the way I want to. To the "it's my data and I will do what I want with it" crowd...good...continue to do so, and when Verizon starts cracking down, then pay for the feature. That's what I will do. How about we let cooler heads prevail and think before we post. No reason to come on here and call people ignorant, fools, or anything else. This issue will never not be debated and you are always going to have the ones against it, and the ones for it. No amount of name calling, facts, or posts are going to change anyones mind. I do understand that this is a forum for people to express their opinions and you are totally entitled to it.......I'm just saying that no one is going to have their opinion swayed so whats the point in fighting about it.....​

 

[NeoandGeo]

Good for the TOS. I don't abide by them. I pay once for data, and use that said data.

 

[czerdrill]

I've made my way through this thread and read a ton of posts. In my honest opinion, I don't see why people get so up in arms about this. Seriously!! Those of you who feel like someone is stealing because they are tethering are crazy. It isn't stealing. I don't care if someone is using data for free when Verizon charges for it. I don't feel entitled to anything other than using my phone the way I want to. To the "it's my data and I will do what I want with it" crowd...good...continue to do so, and when Verizon starts cracking down, then pay for the feature. That's what I will do. How about we let cooler heads prevail and think before we post. No reason to come on here and call people ignorant, fools, or anything else. This issue will never not be debated and you are always going to have the ones against it, and the ones for it. No amount of name calling, facts, or posts are going to change anyones mind. I do understand that this is a forum for people to express their opinions and you are totally entitled to it.......I'm just saying that no one is going to have their opinion swayed so whats the point in fighting about it.....​

I agree. I have no issue with people having a different opinion then mine, nor do I have some misguided belief that I'm going to make tether-ers "see the light" LOL.

It's when they start whining about "being attacked :*(" or says lame childish things like "you're self righteous" or "i'm texting while driving breaking the law!!!" that it gets annoying. Just because someone has a different opinion then you doesn't mean you're being attacked. Learn how to have an adult debate or don't bother...

 

[czerdrill]

Good for the TOS. I don't abide by them. I pay once for data, and use that said data.

LOL k. Thanks for the circular argument.

 

[NeoandGeo]

You're welcome.

Just another note. Speeds are improved in PDANet 3.0 over 2.45/2.46. Getting close to 1Mbps