Well he took Orlando to the playoffs all by himself. That team really had nobody if you think about it.
Kidd is proof that you don't need to be the most athletic person to win a ring. But smart. That's why lebron is going to finish his career with no ring. Cause he's a dumb athletic player with no class.
Nothing wrong with football I was simply making a comparison lol. For example in the jets, they have two great cbs , revis and cromartie. Although cromartie is far more athletic revis is a far better player because he's smart.
Okay let go of the "smarter" aspect for just a second and consider talent or other aspects. They weren't any more male back then than they are now either but that isn't the only thing we're discussing. I think the players today could be every bit as smart but have a lesser basketball IQ. (street smarts vs. how to play the game). But regardless of that, think of Pistol Pete Maravich averaging 44.2 ppg in college against opponents that were known for their defensive talent. Then think of Michael Jordan and how he could shake the best of defenders with ease and then rise up to hit the shot. Then consider Jerry West, Magic Johnson, Bob Cousy, or John Stockton seeing everything a defense had as they brought the ball up court. I honestly think Dominique Wilkins could beat Vince Carter in his prime, and I think they are super comparable.
Yes you are right there. I can certainly agree on that. I guess i'm trying to take the cream of the crop from each generation. I know that Stockton could destroy Mario Chalmers, and that isn't a fair comparison. I'm trying to compare Stockton to Chris Paul, Magic Johnson to Deron Williams, Jerry West to Paul Pierce, 'Nique to Vinsanity, MJ to Kobe or LeBron, etc......
I also apologize if my passion for the game comes off as more of an argument than a debate. I intend no offense to anyone and I just want to make that clear. But I do agree with you that some players can certainly transcend generations. I also think I will read that book you suggested because I love to read about the game. Thanks for the suggestion.
I also sometimes wonder if the past players are trying to be classy in saying that today's athletes are superior. OR maybe the players now have higher athleticism and that's why they say it's played at a higher level? I'm not sure...
I think my emotion is getting in the way a little bit because I have recently lost so much respect for the current players like I did back in 1999. I have such a hard time watching LeBron, Deron, Chris Paul, and Carmelo overtake the proper boundaries that should exist for employees. I just wish so bad the league was back to the old school. Karl Malone recently was in Utah and talking about the team he said...."The jerseys are going back to old school, the court is going back to old school, and the colors are back to old school. Now why the h*** don't the players PLAY old school!?" And he was talking about the flimsy, flopping defense that is played today and also the work ethic. It is one of my favorite quotes from an older generation player.
This made me laugh so hard, but it is completely accurate. No amount of athleticism can overcome the lack of smarts.Well he took Orlando to the playoffs all by himself. That team really had nobody if you think about it.
Kidd is proof that you don't need to be the most athletic person to win a ring. But smart. That's why lebron is going to finish his career with no ring. Cause he's a dumb athletic player with no class.
Nothing wrong with football I was simply making a comparison lol. For example in the jets, they have two great cbs , revis and cromartie. Although cromartie is far more athletic revis is a far better player because he's smart.
