I don't watch basketball anymore. It's just become a star player sport. Not much of a team effort. Also my Pistons suck.
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Who thinks this NBA season will be cancled ?
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Confirmed. Rose done for season and I think Bulls championships hopes are down as well
2012 NBA playoffs -- Chicago Bulls' Derrick Rose suffers torn ACL against Philadelphia 76ers - ESPN Chicago
LETS GO OKC!
2012 NBA playoffs -- Chicago Bulls' Derrick Rose suffers torn ACL against Philadelphia 76ers - ESPN Chicago
LETS GO OKC!
You should watch San Antonio and Chicago play. They're old school teams, it's really nice to watch. In fact Bulls play even more team ball without Rose, but they're not going to get far without him. Man this sucks, been following Bulls since I was a kid and last 3 years have been great, this is a huge blow to the team and my stomach. Sucks...
I am going to be one unhappy camper if Heat take it all. Flop to victory...yeah that's a way to win a ring.
dezymond said:
The Knicks had a difficult second half of the season. Right before they got into the playoffs they had a lot of away games with good teams ina short span of time. Hence possibly the several injuries.
Cp3 is a far better pg than rose in my opinion simply because of the fact that cp3 looks to pass first then score. He's a true pg. Rose isn't.
In terms of actually playing the part of the traditional PG, the only comparison to CP3 is Rondo. However, today's NBA requires your PG to do alot of scoring as well and Rose is certainly one of the best if not the best at it. If I had to choose who to start a franchise with I honestly would have a hard time, give me the second pick and I'd be happy. They're two different types of PG, but each are arguably the best at their specialty. The true PG is a dying breed much like the traditional true Center (I believe only Hibbert and Bynum can fulfill this, or at least show the potential to).
The game has evolved to a more athletic fast paced game and the players are changing to play at that level. I can always enjoy a game ran by CP3 or Rose, don't ask me who'd I'd take though, I'll let you choose first.
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dezymond said:
I'd take cp3 any day because he can run with any team. Deron Williams is great too along with rondo despite the fact that I hate him. I also like nash and kidd, especially nash, despite the fact that they're old. I think rose is unfortunately going to have a lot of injuries...he's way too young to have such serious injuries. And that for me alone makes me not want him in a team I support.
Rose also needs to improve his shooting, and passing. He looks to penetrate the defense with speed a lot which makes him more vulnerable to injuries.
I just can't believe that game that I watched today. I really think games are being fixed or something because every game, Miami has the referees on their side. Today it was really bad. The Knicks played the entire second half scared because they were all in foul trouble. I wanted someone to break lebrons neck for real, and throw the ball at the referees face.
I hope Lebron dies without ever getting a ring. I hate him as a person, and idk what happened to wade. As you said, he was once a player I respected, he's trash too now. Let's not forget the all star accident with no apology. Who does that?
Wade, Lebron and bosh are the worst trio in the NBA. I hope all three get career ending injuries. Them and Ron Artest are my most hated basketball players now.
Rose's style of play is reckless compared to any other PG in the league, but that's how he always been. His jumper is solid, he just takes too many 3s imo. His passing can be worked on, but if you take a look how it compared to even 2 seasons ago, definite improvement, it comes along with experience. Plus they finally got a more than competent coach in Thibs who has worked wonders for this squad (deserving of COY, moreso than Pop imo). Rose used to be way more reckless and wouldn't pace himself as well as he does now, he's made a huge improvement ever since Thibs came in. An ACL tear can happen to anyone, regardless of style of play (though I'm sure it factors in) look at Rubio for instance. He just made a wrong turn on defense and went down with an ACL and LCL(?) tear. Same with Shumpert today. Rose was reckless, but finesse at the same time, he's always in control in the paint no matter how badly his body looks contorted, what I really like about him tbh. Hopefully Rubio, Rose, and Shumpert make strong recoveries from these setbacks, many have made great comebacks such as Amare, but their styles of changes play. There is some good that can come out of this, with their light workout comes more shooting, look for all 3 to be improved shooters next season.
As for future problems, yeah his style of play sets him up for it, but this is the first injury prone season he's had. Go look at his game logs, I think he missed maybe less than 10 or 15 games total compared to this year where he pretty much missed half the season. I think the compacted season had alot to do with today's injuries. Players just don't have the time for their bodies to recover and at the level they play at they need the rest. Playoffs should've started next weekend, not 2 days after the regular season ended, those teams were tired today and weren't ready. Every player is feeling the effect, but if you're missing half the season and going in and out the lineup til the last week of the season, it's going to be tough and Rose found that out the hard way unfortunately.
As for Miami getting calls, yeah they get alot, especially on flops which irks me like no other. But hey if you wanna get into conspiracy theories that it's fixed or whatever go ahead, I'm just gonna say it like it is, they flop like a soccer team and any competent basketball fan knows it. It ruins the pace and moreso the integrity of the game, complete garbage. If you listen to Jeff Van Gundy he preaches right and yet the issue of flopping is still being ignored, I can only hope they change that rule otherwise as a lifetime fan of the NBA I may stop, it's unbearable to watch especially compared to what the NBA used to be. Plus they show about 20 Heat games a year now and I only see that number going up.
Some great players deserve a ring (Nash being my new top player due to his age), but Lebron/Wade, never again. I used to have a great respect for Wade even after he pretty much singlehandedly beat us in the Finals in 06, but ever since he got his boyfriend Lebron on his squad he's become immature and plain childish. I mean seriously, you really think he would've pulled the "cough" if Lebron wasn't there, really sad actually. He's stooped to such a level that I'd never respect him again. And on the court, he plays for flops to win, embarassing. I don't get how players of their caliber, the faces of the NBA, resort to flopping. Sure alot of players try to get a flop here and there, but every other possession? C'mon now, you're just not playing the game anymore.
I'm going to really miss players like Duncan, Dirk, Nash, and a few other old school players that play the right way. Sure they all flop time to time, but hey it's part of the game now, it's not like they really plan on flopping every other possession like Miami. Barely complain, take full responsibility for when their team or they fail, and just play the game. Then they got players like Durant, Harden, Rose, Rubio, etc. that all just want to play and don't bring any bs to the game either. Makes me sick how the "Faces of the NBA" play now, take that garbage to streets or something.
As for future problems, yeah his style of play sets him up for it, but this is the first injury prone season he's had. Go look at his game logs, I think he missed maybe less than 10 or 15 games total compared to this year where he pretty much missed half the season. I think the compacted season had alot to do with today's injuries. Players just don't have the time for their bodies to recover and at the level they play at they need the rest. Playoffs should've started next weekend, not 2 days after the regular season ended, those teams were tired today and weren't ready. Every player is feeling the effect, but if you're missing half the season and going in and out the lineup til the last week of the season, it's going to be tough and Rose found that out the hard way unfortunately.
As for Miami getting calls, yeah they get alot, especially on flops which irks me like no other. But hey if you wanna get into conspiracy theories that it's fixed or whatever go ahead, I'm just gonna say it like it is, they flop like a soccer team and any competent basketball fan knows it. It ruins the pace and moreso the integrity of the game, complete garbage. If you listen to Jeff Van Gundy he preaches right and yet the issue of flopping is still being ignored, I can only hope they change that rule otherwise as a lifetime fan of the NBA I may stop, it's unbearable to watch especially compared to what the NBA used to be. Plus they show about 20 Heat games a year now and I only see that number going up.
Some great players deserve a ring (Nash being my new top player due to his age), but Lebron/Wade, never again. I used to have a great respect for Wade even after he pretty much singlehandedly beat us in the Finals in 06, but ever since he got his boyfriend Lebron on his squad he's become immature and plain childish. I mean seriously, you really think he would've pulled the "cough" if Lebron wasn't there, really sad actually. He's stooped to such a level that I'd never respect him again. And on the court, he plays for flops to win, embarassing. I don't get how players of their caliber, the faces of the NBA, resort to flopping. Sure alot of players try to get a flop here and there, but every other possession? C'mon now, you're just not playing the game anymore.
I'm going to really miss players like Duncan, Dirk, Nash, and a few other old school players that play the right way. Sure they all flop time to time, but hey it's part of the game now, it's not like they really plan on flopping every other possession like Miami. Barely complain, take full responsibility for when their team or they fail, and just play the game. Then they got players like Durant, Harden, Rose, Rubio, etc. that all just want to play and don't bring any bs to the game either. Makes me sick how the "Faces of the NBA" play now, take that garbage to streets or something.
alboboy10 said:
I'm not going to lie the guy's game is amazing, but he's just not a good person imo. I didn't like him from day one as he fell into his own hype ans proclaimed himself king. Its one thing to be cocky but Lebron is just plain conceited and feels entitled to everything. NBA has become more of an ego filler for stars than anything.
Eh enough ranting for me about the 3 stooges. Definitely going to be some good games today. Wish Suns were in though instead of the jazz, Nash deserved one more playoff run as a Sun...
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dezymond said:
Nash is class, a great player and a great human. It's more important to be a great human first then a great athlete. Even if you're an athlete, because you bring more than just athleticism to the team.
That's why I say Lebron is garbage, obviously he's a good player but he's trash as a person.
Miami really is a team to HATE, not one of the three "stars" is a good person. Even their garbage players (everybody else) have been influenced.
There's only one quality I absolutely hate about Nash though, his loyalty to a team. Friends laugh at me for this comparison, but Nash is the Golden Retriever of the league. Loves everyone in a good home, but Suns are literally showing him the ball and not throwing it, it's torture. Sarver is an incompetent owner and really has no interest in spending money to make the team better (spending the same amount you would've offered Amare to Frye, Childress, Warrick, and some others, really?!?!). I hope Nash goes to a contender(not Miami), but I have a real strong feeling he's going to re-sign with the Suns, loves the city, the people, his teammates, and the only other place he's ever called home was Dallas. One of the classiest guys in the league, but he definitely gets taken advantage of, and I hate it.
Miami is the complete opposite of class act. Shows in their games, their interviews, and even before they officially started playing together (not 1, not 2, not 3, LOL!). I don't want to get my bloodpressure up so I'm gonna stop this Miami rant. For crying out loud, they even enjoy the negative attention they get, then they get to play the victim.
NY will spend a ton on Lin. Unfortunately, wherever Nash goes other than Phoenix, he would be a backup. I see him signing with Phoenix because he'll retain the starting gig and because he calls it home. I would love to see him go to Minnesota, but I don't think that'll happen. I know Rubio has idolized Nash since he was a kid, imagine if Nash took him under his wing:blink:
Alot of people are saying Miami would be his destination, man I hope not. I'd actually like to see him in Chicago, but they have a great young backup in CJ. Rose's game needs to change due to his injury, and who better to show him passing angles and all that than Nash. We'll wait and see though. Would love for him to finally his get ring, but I have a feeling he'll be joining the HOF without one.
