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YEAH baby! My Demo will be here today!

JB, are you a little more curious now about the 4G deal after this delay stuff? I'd be pretty tempted to jump in the car and head for 4G territory to see what happens with the phone! :icon_eek:
 
I think they are just BSing us about the 4G issue. The real issue is that everyone who bought the iPhone 4 still has the opportunity to return it for a new unit. Probably a TB. Then they would be stuck with a lot of gimped Iphones that cant use data and call simultaneousness.

Who knows. They can keep HTC, I'm staying with Motorola all the way!!!!!!!!!!!
Bionic
 
Is the kickstand on the TB any bigger than whats seen on the EVO?

I just saw the Evo today, the kickstand looked like a toothpick.
 
JB, are you a little more curious now about the 4G deal after this delay stuff? I'd be pretty tempted to jump in the car and head for 4G territory to see what happens with the phone! :icon_eek:

Yes and no... I won't have to worry about LTE until later this year at the earliest.
 
This is why im not sure about getting the TB, because 4G isn't in my area yet.
If I can lock in it at 29.99, then sweet no problem.
 
JB, are you a little more curious now about the 4G deal after this delay stuff? I'd be pretty tempted to jump in the car and head for 4G territory to see what happens with the phone! :icon_eek:

Reports are coming in that with normal use and the 4G turned on, testers are seeing the battery drain by 1 PM after having been turned on at 8 AM. 5 hours!

HTC is pumping out updates to test units pretty much daily. Still no go...

People can choose to believe it's the network, or unfinished tiered pricing plans or iPads and iPhones. This launch was ground to a halt over a serious problem.
 
I want to add my thanks to everyone else's Johnboy. I was leaning toward this phone anyway and you helped firm up my decision. Thank you for your opinions, insights and time in replying to all the questions.
 
The car mount is VERY important and would be the deal breaker for me.. I use it as my GPS, and without the window mount its pretty much useless..

I'm a big fan of the ProClipUSA.com car mount system. I've written up reviews a bunch of times but they end up in closed threads so I won't bother gain now. IF you have any questions, I'll be glad to answer them if I can. A bit pricey but highly customized for both car and phone that result in a sturdy and great-looking solution for mounting your phone in your car. Blows away those stupid suction-cup things. I've already contacted them to prime the pump for a TB mount. If you are of the mind, do the the same and a) it'll add to their market input and b) you'll get notified when it's for sale.

Thanks very much Blackhawk55. That is a neat looking mounting system. I just emailed them to request one for the Thunderbolt.
 
I want to add my thanks to everyone else's Johnboy. I was leaning toward this phone anyway and you helped firm up my decision. Thank you for your opinions, insights and time in replying to all the questions.

JB, are you a little more curious now about the 4G deal after this delay stuff? I'd be pretty tempted to jump in the car and head for 4G territory to see what happens with the phone! :icon_eek:

Reports are coming in that with normal use and the 4G turned on, testers are seeing the battery drain by 1 PM after having been turned on at 8 AM. 5 hours!

HTC is pumping out updates to test units pretty much daily. Still no go...

People can choose to believe it's the network, or unfinished tiered pricing plans or iPads and iPhones. This launch was ground to a halt over a serious problem.

After my previous post I see CK's... I still want it but I don't mind waiting till it's fixed. 5 hours is not acceptable.
 
JB, are you a little more curious now about the 4G deal after this delay stuff? I'd be pretty tempted to jump in the car and head for 4G territory to see what happens with the phone! :icon_eek:

Reports are coming in that with normal use and the 4G turned on, testers are seeing the battery drain by 1 PM after having been turned on at 8 AM. 5 hours!

HTC is pumping out updates to test units pretty much daily. Still no go...

People can choose to believe it's the network, or unfinished tiered pricing plans or iPads and iPhones. This launch was ground to a halt over a serious problem.

Where can I read about these testers?
 
JB, are you a little more curious now about the 4G deal after this delay stuff? I'd be pretty tempted to jump in the car and head for 4G territory to see what happens with the phone! :icon_eek:

Reports are coming in that with normal use and the 4G turned on, testers are seeing the battery drain by 1 PM after having been turned on at 8 AM. 5 hours!

HTC is pumping out updates to test units pretty much daily. Still no go...

People can choose to believe it's the network, or unfinished tiered pricing plans or iPads and iPhones. This launch was ground to a halt over a serious problem.

CK, I haven't read every post on this thread, but I recall reading there is a tester on this thread (uh, the OP) and I recall reading that he has received zero updates. Am I wrong?

So CK, where is your info from?
 
JB, are you a little more curious now about the 4G deal after this delay stuff? I'd be pretty tempted to jump in the car and head for 4G territory to see what happens with the phone! :icon_eek:

Reports are coming in that with normal use and the 4G turned on, testers are seeing the battery drain by 1 PM after having been turned on at 8 AM. 5 hours!

HTC is pumping out updates to test units pretty much daily. Still no go...

People can choose to believe it's the network, or unfinished tiered pricing plans or iPads and iPhones. This launch was ground to a halt over a serious problem.

If that is true, 5 hours is a lot better than the 2-3 that people were reporting when all this talk of delays started. One thing we don't know is how much or little the phones are in use. I would love to have someone charge the phone, go to a 4G connection and let it sit until it dies, not using it at all. Then, do the same thing only on a 3G connection.

If my TBolt gets 8+ hours on 3G with moderate use, and I can get 5 hours on 4G with moderate use, I would consider that acceptable when compared to itself.

Think about it like this: Compare the MPG of a v8 Hemi vehicle (TBolt) to that of a v6 vehicle (Droid X)... the difference can be over 8 MPGs which works out to over 30% less MPGs in the v8. The Thunderbolt is a high powered device that requires more power especially when on 4G network.

Considering I have to give the phone back sooner than I would have thought, I am more inclined to go to my closest LTE area and see for myself what the phone does/does not do on the network.
 
I think what may be the problem Johny is that the TB is actually too underpowered to be on the LTE network. The EVO which is it's very close cousin (which I think you would agree) already suffers from poor battery life. So if we throw the EVO on the LTE network well you can see where that would lead..

I believe the problem lies in the fact that the TB needs some serious processing power and beefy battery to power that big high rez screen AND allow it to be on the network.

You analogy is backwards in my honest opinion. The big bore Hemi is the LTE network and the TB doesn't have the transmission and drive train to handle all that horsepower.

They need to beef up the tranny and drive train. But it's too late for that. They need to figure out how to get that Hemi running on such limited hardware. Thats where I believe they are at right now.
 
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