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[Pdigg]

But if altered code is released as open source, how does the chain not continue? Is open source not really "open"?

It sounds like you are basing your point of view off whether or not any laws or copyrights were broken.

 

[huskur]

OK. I have come to a final conclusion. (BASF)

YouTube - BASF Sandboard, Dress and Motorcycle

I don't make the ROM "they" use. I make the ROM better.

(still the man BD)

Go ahead....flame me i don't care

Wrong or not.....likely truthful

 

[hookbill]

OK guys here's how it's working so far. I stay out of your way unless someone reports something to me. If it's name calling and such,m the post gets deleted and you'll get an email notifying you that I did it.

I'm working way to hard to have to do this and I don't want to get involved so please no name calling.

thanks in advance.

 

[kingofsting]

Irony.....

I just had to repost this from another thread in the ROM section. This is simply unbelievable.

A user posed a question in the the Koush sub-forum about switching from Ultimate Droid to CyanogenMod. The user asked if he needed to do a data and cache wipe during the install. Koush responded:

"Originally Posted by koush
You may need to just bite the bullet and do a fresh install, without your app backups. The "base" of UD and CyanogenMod are so different, that I would highly recommend this, as things may go really wrong otherwise."

Didn't Koush recently flame the every living heck out of blackdroid, along with Cynanogen, because they were claiming Ultimate Droid nothing more than CyanogenMOD that had been skinned?

:icon_eek::icon_eek::icon_eek:

 

[Droidfish]

Hate to stir this pot more but I thought I'd just share a couple things that occurred to me thru all this. The involvement of the rom USERS in this soap opera makes me think of two things:

1) Really? ROM loyalty? Seriously?

I love android and I have my favorite devs but I hate the whole

2) This might speak for how good our lives are right now considering the amount of time and energy we all have wasted and continue to waste on this drama(I wish I didn't have to include myself in this point yet here I am)

...carry on...

 

[angryunibrow]

I just had to repost this from another thread in the ROM section. This is simply unbelievable.

A user posed a question in the the Koush sub-forum about switching from Ultimate Droid to CyanogenMod. The user asked if he needed to do a data and cache wipe during the install. Koush responded:

"Originally Posted by koush
You may need to just bite the bullet and do a fresh install, without your app backups. The "base" of UD and CyanogenMod are so different, that I would highly recommend this, as things may go really wrong otherwise."

Didn't Koush recently flame the every living heck out of blackdroid, along with Cynanogen, because they were claiming Ultimate Droid nothing more than CyanogenMOD that had been skinned?

:icon_eek::icon_eek::icon_eek:

Was he coming from 9.8 or 10.0?

The problem came up on v10, not 9.8

So if he was asking about coming from 9.8 then Koush's responce is perfectly fine.

 

[ink]

I just had to repost this from another thread in the ROM section. This is simply unbelievable.

A user posed a question in the the Koush sub-forum about switching from Ultimate Droid to CyanogenMod. The user asked if he needed to do a data and cache wipe during the install. Koush responded:

"Originally Posted by koush
You may need to just bite the bullet and do a fresh install, without your app backups. The "base" of UD and CyanogenMod are so different, that I would highly recommend this, as things may go really wrong otherwise."

Didn't Koush recently flame the every living heck out of blackdroid, along with Cynanogen, because they were claiming Ultimate Droid nothing more than CyanogenMOD that had been skinned?

:icon_eek::icon_eek::icon_eek:

That may have been before UD 10 was released. They may have been on 9.8.

 

[hairdewx]

But if altered code is released as open source, how does the chain not continue? Is open source not really "open"?

It sounds like you are basing your point of view off whether or not any laws or copyrights were broken.

You didn't answer my question.

 

[droidkm]

just want to say LOL at srtfool's posts. i'm basically as impartial of an observer on this whole debacle as it gets, and even i can't stand you/blackdroid anymore. hint: it's not because you copied cyanogen.

 

[huskur]

But if altered code is released as open source, how does the chain not continue? Is open source not really "open"?

It sounds like you are basing your point of view off whether or not any laws or copyrights were broken.

You didn't answer my question.

There is no "coypright" in this situation. That is why its so hard to understand and the choices that have been handed down are liked by some but disliked by many more.

Somebody should run a poll:

Should Blackdroid stay:
Should Blackdroid go:

I am not going to do it but it would be interesting numbers. (not to mention the decision has been made and won't change)

 

[jper1]

I've had code stolen before not particularly in the android scene (people i work around are great!). Your opinion is your opinion i'm just trying to understand how someone considers stealing someone elses work is okay? That's all.

If you notice, the ones that have no problem stealing code are all BD's fans. He has quite the power of convincing people, including his "developers," that he did not steal and he made it all himself.

Its not worth fighting with them, soon BD will be gone and they shall follow to ruin another forum.

ohh nooo BD's in my brain...g.g....r.r.a..r..

BD didnt' steal anything...it was an accident, I, i mean he, left an stupid .xml file....too many windows opened on my screen......cut copy....no no...build...spreadsheet does not exist...I built it all...

Someone has plans to build a doghouse. Someone has the same plans to build the same doghouse. The "plans" come from "open source" so anyone can use them. One person builds it plain and another adds heat/air conditioning. But both start from the same plan? (google source code)
What is the difference?

Taking someone else's idea (or work) is what is done every minute of the day in the world. Thats how development works and gets better.

I'm glad I don't do business with this guy.

 

[chnkyeydflip]

I think the real comedy of all this is that most of us should be at work, working right now and just not focusing, or being more productive so we can contribute to our society in some way shape or form. I'm not saying i'm no different lol its just food for thought haha :icon_ banana:

 

[ldimick]

stop avoiding the question, why no direct contact from koush or cyanogen???

my statement will explain why it took so long, it will not be liles. you dont like us you dont like us, you do like us then thats cool people understand mistakes happen. not everything is easy to figure out how a mistake this big could happen.

The problem is not that mistakes happen. It's when they become a repeated pattern that it starts to go wrong. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

And I can yell in big red letters too but doing so does not change the fact that BD has yet own up to his lies.

 

[huskur]

If you notice, the ones that have no problem stealing code are all BD's fans. He has quite the power of convincing people, including his "developers," that he did not steal and he made it all himself.

Its not worth fighting with them, soon BD will be gone and they shall follow to ruin another forum.

ohh nooo BD's in my brain...g.g....r.r.a..r..

BD didnt' steal anything...it was an accident, I, i mean he, left an stupid .xml file....too many windows opened on my screen......cut copy....no no...build...spreadsheet does not exist...I built it all...

Someone has plans to build a doghouse. Someone has the same plans to build the same doghouse. The "plans" come from "open source" so anyone can use them. One person builds it plain and another adds heat/air conditioning. But both start from the same plan? (google source code)
What is the difference?

Taking someone else's idea (or work) is what is done every minute of the day in the world. Thats how development works and gets better.

I'm glad I don't do business with this guy.

Same principle as HONDA. American cars are junk in comparison to Japanese cars. I was told by a very reputable transmission mechanic (been doing it for over 30 years) that a honda transmission with over 200K is more in spec than a brand new american made transmission (any make)

Look at the model T and compare it to todays cars. All started from others improving on others work.

 

[hairdewx]

It sounds like you are basing your point of view off whether or not any laws or copyrights were broken.

You didn't answer my question.

There is no "coypright" in this situation. That is why its so hard to understand and the choices that have been handed down are liked by some but disliked by many more.

Somebody should run a poll:

Should Blackdroid stay:
Should Blackdroid go:

I am not going to do it but it would be interesting numbers. (not to mention the decision has been made and won't change)

So to cut to the chase, I just want people to say what rules/license agreements were broken.

Was it only etiquette that was breached?